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Tuesday, April 12th, 2005, 00:00 EDT
[00:00:00] ServerSage: I have one in drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko – that is the only one.
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[00:00:00] sung: hola
[00:00:00] sung: question
[00:00:00] sung: how do you add another directory to mythtv's search path
[00:00:00] GreyFoxx: ServerSage: Where is the ivtv modules ?
[00:00:00] sung: when it's looking for mp3s and whatnot
[00:01:00] rpete: ServerSage, you're just using your distro default modules? you'll probably want to dl and compile ckennedy's newer stuff, and remove the older ones
[00:03:00] rpete: sung, only takes a single path if i recall, so you'd maybe use symlinks under the single base
[00:03:00] ServerSage: Where can I get the ckennedy stuff?
[00:03:00] rpete: http://205.209.168.201/~ckennedy/ivtv/
[00:03:00] GeckoFiend: sung there's only one root dir for music files. if you need more then symlink the extra directories under the music root dir
[00:04:00] sung: thanks guys
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[00:05:00] Mrgoose: yo
[00:05:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo
[00:05:00] mishehu: I hope you're not one of those canadian geese
[00:05:00] mini-morfic: i wish i could get audio from the msp3435g b6 all i am still having is tvcard lineout to sndcard linein :/
[00:05:00] Mrgoose: heh
[00:05:00] mishehu: coming to poop green stuff on the channel
[00:05:00] mishehu: heh
[00:05:00] GotD0t: geese are mean
[00:06:00] GotD0t: they dont like cats
[00:06:00] Mrgoose: heh
[00:06:00] GotD0t: well
[00:06:00] Mrgoose: geese are a pest here
[00:06:00] GotD0t: one did
[00:06:00] ServerSage: Emerging the ivtv stuff as I type this.
[00:06:00] ** Beirdo poops on the channel **
[00:06:00] GotD0t: one liked it so much it ate a kitten
[00:06:00] Mrgoose: they are they family walk across the street, and block traffic
[00:06:00] Mrgoose: you get fined if you hit one
[00:06:00] GotD0t: it like bit its ear off
[00:06:00] GotD0t: i was like holy shit
[00:07:00] Mrgoose: Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
[00:07:00] Mrgoose: oops
[00:07:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo: which script in nuvexport asks this Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
[00:07:00] Mrgoose: Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
[00:07:00] Mrgoose: i cant find it in mpeg2cut
[00:07:00] Beirdo: grep...
[00:07:00] Mrgoose: ?
[00:07:00] Beirdo: it's in the main part of the scripts.
[00:07:00] Beirdo: use grep
[00:08:00] Mrgoose: grep -i 'export the files' *.*
[00:08:00] Mrgoose: root@MythBox:/home/mythuser/nuvexport-0.2#
[00:08:00] Mrgoose: nope
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[00:09:00] Beirdo: what's this *.* crap?
[00:09:00] Beirdo: this isn't windows
[00:09:00] Mrgoose: heh
[00:09:00] Beirdo: and you'll have to look in the subdirectories too
[00:09:00] Mrgoose: oh ok
[00:09:00] ServerSage: Do I need bttv at all with a PVR250?
[00:09:00] GreyFoxx: ServerSage: No
[00:09:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo: word found it
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[00:14:00] ServerSage: I love every single one of you in this room right now!
[00:15:00] ServerSage: emerge ivtv, modify my kernel-2.6 file, modules-update, and BAM! I have sound!
[00:15:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[00:15:00] ServerSage: I searched and searched and searched for this info. I couldn't find it anywhere.
[00:15:00] rpete: really?
[00:15:00] GreyFoxx: That'll be $5
[00:15:00] ServerSage: Really. But I was getting frustrated while looking, which didn't help at all.
[00:15:00] ServerSage: Hehe. GreyFoxx – give me an address and I'll happily pay it.
[00:16:00] rpete: well I went through the same thing
[00:16:00] rpete: very frustrating
[00:16:00] ServerSage: VERY frustrating indeed rpete.
[00:16:00] ServerSage: Thanks a ton. Much appreciated.
[00:16:00] rpete: nearly threw the computer out the window if I recall
[00:16:00] ServerSage: I'd have you guys over for a beer if you lived in my neighborhood.
[00:16:00] jmblack: we might...
[00:16:00] ServerSage: Houghton, Michigan? Hehe.
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[00:21:00] mechtn_: ok the color is off pretty bad
[00:22:00] mechtn_: i dont have a remote so i have to use the keyboard to change channels
[00:22:00] mechtn_: but thats no big deal
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[00:25:00] mechtn_: how do i change from RTJPEG to MPEG-4
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[00:43:00] mini-morfic: how do i tell mythtv about another alsa device other than default ( ALSA:default ) hw:1,0 would be the syntax most apps would be looking for i think, ALSA:hw:1,0 isnt accepted by mythtv
[00:44:00] mini-morfic: btw who here uses snd-bt87x and could share some experience with that module?
[00:46:00] ** defaultro is researching on how he can record discovery hd :P **
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[00:47:00] membreya: quick question guys, is there any reason why mythtv-setup has the option for scan channels greyed out?
[00:48:00] amax: mythtv doesnt scan for channels
[00:48:00] amax: you need xmltv or datadirect for that
[00:48:00] membreya: then why's the option there? :|
[00:48:00] defaultro: scan for channels if you are using dvb like me
[00:48:00] defaultro: that will get enabled
[00:48:00] amax: for the future? :)
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[00:48:00] membreya: ooooh :)
[00:49:00] membreya: just that all my TV comes in through one cable input
[00:49:00] membreya: and the channels are changed through a cable box :|
[00:49:00] membreya: so without knowing the frequency it's impossible to setup
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[00:50:00] GreyFoxx: You wont need to know the frequencies if the tuning is done on the cable box
[00:50:00] GreyFoxx: just keep your tuner on channel 3/4 and control the cable box to set the channel
[00:53:00] defaultro: GreyFoxx, are you capturing HD content?
[00:53:00] GreyFoxx: nope
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[01:00:00] membreya: ok, stupid question GreyFoxx but just how to I set it to channel 3/4?
[01:00:00] man_in_shack: does anyone have a compro videomate dvb-t300?
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[01:03:00] mechtn: QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range
[01:03:00] mechtn: anyone know whats up with this
[01:03:00] mechtn: the color is way off when i do watch tv
[01:06:00] mechtn: mythtv: could not connect to socket
[01:06:00] mechtn: mythtv: No such file or directory
[01:06:00] mechtn: lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages
[01:06:00] mechtn: anyone know whats up with these
[01:07:00] membreya: means lirc isn't configured
[01:07:00] mechtn: thats for the remote right?
[01:07:00] mechtn: cuase i dont have a remote
[01:07:00] membreya: yes it is
[01:07:00] membreya: so you don't gotta worry
[01:07:00] mechtn: the color looks like its missing green
[01:08:00] mechtn: whats the mythtv: socket and file error
[01:08:00] membreya: it's lirc
[01:08:00] mechtn: oh ok
[01:08:00] mechtn: any idea what the color might be ?
[01:09:00] agent_sx: hello all
[01:10:00] agent_sx: anyone have a asus tv fm card working with mythtv
[01:11:00] agent_sx: ?
[01:12:00] mechtn: not i
[01:14:00] mechtn: lcd doesnt make a difference right?
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[01:23:00] opello: in nuvexport, what does 'enabling the myth cuelist' do? chop out commercials from the output?
[01:23:00] opello: i'd really just like to get the video out of the nuv...
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[01:29:00] defaultro: anyone records hd content such as discovery or espn hd?
[01:30:00] defaultro: WBBM CBS2 Chicago Has applied for change of Digital Channel to UHF band
[01:30:00] defaultro: this change expect to see in next 2 years, pending FCC approval.
[01:30:00] defaultro: this is cool
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[01:31:00] Cardoe: defaultro: why's that cool?
[01:31:00] defaultro: because it's currently at VHF
[01:31:00] defaultro: and their broadcast is so weak
[01:32:00] defaultro: VHF are sometimes hard to capture
[01:32:00] mini-morfic: hey Cardoe, you wouldnt have a magic potion up your sleeve which makes this BT878 based wintv work with muxed audio instead of needing a patch cable from tvcard line out to sndcard line in
[01:33:00] mechtn: is there a file on my capture card somewhere i need to edit to setup the color options?
[01:33:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: alsa bt8xx
[01:33:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: but note. Not all cards will work that way.
[01:34:00] mini-morfic: i now have snd-bt87x loaded but dont quite know how to tell mythtv about it
[01:34:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: /dev/dsp1
[01:34:00] Cardoe: cause /dev/dsp0 should be your sound card
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[01:34:00] Cardoe: alsamixer -c 1
[01:34:00] Cardoe: try that
[01:34:00] mini-morfic: i googled and found a fedora thread talking about how the audio device lspci shows should be usable with this driver
[01:35:00] mini-morfic: yeah it is there
[01:36:00] Cardoe: ok
[01:36:00] Cardoe: use /dev/dsp1
[01:36:00] Cardoe: set the device to capture in alsamixer
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[01:37:00] mini-morfic: set to capture
[01:38:00] mini-morfic: what mixer /dev/mixer1?
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[01:39:00] mini-morfic: i must be missing some aliasing no /dev/dsp1 device
[01:42:00] mechtn: i'm trying to do some searching on the archives
[01:42:00] defaultro: Cardoe, fyi, I just ordered today an spdif connector :)
[01:42:00] mechtn: what do you call it when you just hit Watch Tv
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[01:42:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: what should the /etc/modules.d/snd-bt87x look like for that module, i pasted what was in the kernel docs, but i guess that aint enough
[01:43:00] rpete: mechtn, try livetv
[01:43:00] defaultro: hi rpete, how are you?
[01:43:00] rpete: hi defaultro
[01:43:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: lemme peek
[01:44:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: is your /etc/modules.d/alsa setup right?
[01:44:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: for 2 cards?
[01:44:00] mechtn: ok, my color is way off
[01:44:00] mechtn: so i'm trying to do research about it
[01:44:00] Cardoe: pre-install snd-bt87x modprobe snd-emu10k1
[01:44:00] Cardoe: only special thing I've got
[01:45:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: that i just noticed looking in there to be ready to answer any questions, yeah i got a little frustrated and didnt notice when i aded the snd-bt87x earlier
[01:45:00] defaultro: question guys, let say, I install another air2pc capture card. Let say, air2pc card 1 is recording a program. Now, we select livetv. Does mythtv already know that it needs to use air2pc card 2?
[01:45:00] Cardoe: defaultro: yes
[01:46:00] defaultro: oh ok
[01:46:00] defaultro: that's cool
[01:46:00] Cardoe: defaultro: it uses the first available non-busy card
[01:46:00] riksta: mechtn: press G and adjust the colour?
[01:46:00] mini-morfic: right now i have it all monolithic, something gave me unknown symbol i2c-* errors on modprobing bttv, so to avoid the stress made a fat kernel
[01:46:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: you need i2c bit bang
[01:46:00] defaultro: question about broadcast bit on 7/1. Does it also affect non-local HD?
[01:47:00] riksta: hey Cardoe
[01:47:00] riksta: do you have some updated myth cvs ebuilds at all
[01:47:00] Cardoe: hey
[01:47:00] Cardoe: not right now
[01:47:00] riksta: IIRC you are the ebuild guy for myth?
[01:47:00] Cardoe: I'm without a system
[01:47:00] Cardoe: My laptop blew up
[01:47:00] riksta: oh shit, bad luck
[01:47:00] defaultro: i should backup my laptop too
[01:47:00] Cardoe: Dell shipped the new one I got to the wrong address
[01:47:00] defaultro: it's making sound now
[01:47:00] defaultro: oh no
[01:47:00] Cardoe: defaultro: read my blog.
[01:47:00] defaultro: it got to the wrong address
[01:48:00] Cardoe: Yeah well UPS has it again
[01:48:00] Cardoe: but now Dell are fuck tards
[01:48:00] defaultro: great
[01:48:00] mechtn: how can i tell if i'm using cx88 or btvv
[01:48:00] Cardoe: and they're sending it to my parents address
[01:48:00] defaultro: and is that a state away
[01:48:00] riksta: oh my god
[01:48:00] riksta: you think some lucky dude has got a new laptop? :)
[01:48:00] Cardoe: nope
[01:48:00] Cardoe: UPS got it back
[01:48:00] riksta: ah
[01:48:00] riksta: lucky
[01:49:00] riksta: i'd have gone on "holiday"
[01:49:00] Cardoe: Basically they never made the delivery
[01:49:00] Cardoe: It was on the delivery truck
[01:49:00] riksta: ahh ic
[01:49:00] Cardoe: but no attempt to deliver was made
[01:49:00] defaultro: btw, do you know any new cool theme other than the ones that comes with the installer?
[01:49:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: got i2c bit bang which is why i was suprised to see anything i2c related, i mean it worked smooth modprobe bttv finds card tuner MSP3435 soundchip (yes the snd-bt87x is just plan b)
[01:49:00] Cardoe: snd-bt87x should be plan a
[01:49:00] defaultro: i like the theme that is used in Tivo
[01:49:00] mini-morfic: mythtv is so nice im a little frustrated i got no sound from it :)
[01:49:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: Hauppauge WinTV card?
[01:50:00] defaultro: Cardoe, did you see 24 a while ago?
[01:50:00] Cardoe: missed it
[01:50:00] riksta: i've been having totally horrific problems with my BTTV card at the moment
[01:50:00] defaultro: it's cool
[01:50:00] riksta: im getting mad IRQ lockups
[01:50:00] riksta: in dmesg
[01:50:00] riksta: and it locks the system hard
[01:50:00] Cardoe: riksta: odd
[01:50:00] riksta: i've never got them before, and i've never added any new devices or even changed kernel
[01:50:00] defaultro: however, i got lost when they called the bag as football
[01:50:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: yes, sec http://voxnet.dyndns.org:5003/clipboard/?board=2546
[01:51:00] riksta: i even tried ANOTHER card, i had two of the same one
[01:51:00] riksta: i have run out of ideas
[01:52:00] mini-morfic: well recompiling kernel i dont like giving up but going monolithic let me try a few more things
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[01:53:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: what sound card do you have?
[01:53:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: you asked if i had my /etc/modules.d/alsa correct, it basically is the asa file for my sound card plus added stuff from the alsa docs for snd-bt87x
[01:53:00] mini-morfic: santa cruz
[01:53:00] mechtn: i must be on everyone's ignore
[01:53:00] mini-morfic: the asoundrc is from the alsa-project.org docs site and only 2 short entried
[01:54:00] mini-morfic: mechtn: bttv should be if it shows you a bt878 or older chip, i suppose lspci might give clues
[01:54:00] mechtn: is there any instructions anywhere to figure out which chip i have etc
[01:54:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: http://pastebin.ca/9382
[01:54:00] mini-morfic: but i really should tackle this baby before i give advice ;)
[01:55:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: switch make sure # cards @ the bottom is 2
[01:55:00] Cardoe: mechtn: lspci
[01:55:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: and pre-install snd-bt87x modprobe snd-emu10k1
[01:56:00] Cardoe: but obviously rather then SB Live module... it's your other module.
[01:56:00] Cardoe: If you're getting errors about i2c
[01:56:00] Cardoe: you're missing stuff
[01:57:00] mini-morfic: "preinstall" ?
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[01:57:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: http://pastebin.ca/9383
[01:58:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: yes.
[01:58:00] tetsuo__: has anybody had success with the pvr 150?
[01:58:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: prior to having the snd-bt87x driver modprobed make sure to have your real SND card modprobed
[01:58:00] Cardoe: tetsuo__: tons on the ivtv-devel site
[01:59:00] tetsuo__: i can get video and sound, it's just the video is off-center, and about 1/3 of the picture is cut off, has anybody heard/seen this?
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[02:00:00] mini-morfic: ok, off for a new test
[02:00:00] Esuirin: Warning at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 304:
[02:00:00] Esuirin: copy(image_cache/1037_20050401002800_20050401010000.nuv.png): failed to open stream: Permission denied
[02:00:00] Esuirin: ?
[02:01:00] tetsuo__: check the permissions
[02:01:00] Cardoe: tetsuo__: firmware check
[02:01:00] ** mini-morfic heard his rebooting machine turn on the speakers and goes look if bttv loaded **
[02:01:00] tetsuo__: did you run it as root once, and now as a regular non-root user?
[02:02:00] mechtn: lspci shows a card called
[02:02:00] mechtn: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP
[02:02:00] mechtn: the manufacturer is ATI
[02:02:00] mini-morfic: no errors, good sign
[02:02:00] mechtn: its an ATI TV wonder pro
[02:02:00] Cardoe: mechtn: modulize bttv and cx88 and test both. 1 will fail. I bet that card is a cx88 though
[02:03:00] mini-morfic: http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/bttv/bttv-gallery.html that list is pretty cool, too bad mine isnt in there :)
[02:04:00] Esuirin: tetsuo__, are you asking me about non-root thing?
[02:06:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: still get '/dev/dsp1 no such device'
[02:07:00] Cardoe: lsmod shows snd-bt87x?
[02:07:00] Cardoe: dmesg has any references?
[02:07:00] Esuirin: tetsuo__, i just restarted mythbackend w/root, same error
[02:07:00] Esuirin: w/mythweb
[02:07:00] mechtn: cardie, how do you modulize?
[02:07:00] mechtn: i'm running a tvcardoptions script
[02:07:00] mechtn: and i can see picture
[02:07:00] mechtn: but every single one is so blurry and missing colors
[02:08:00] Beirdo: SON OF A BITCH!
[02:08:00] Beirdo: I've been chasing a bug in my code for a day or so
[02:08:00] Beirdo: turns out that I named my function decodeMP3
[02:08:00] mechtn: the brightness settings are 100% in xawtv and i cant turn them down
[02:08:00] Beirdo: and libmp3lame has a function called that
[02:09:00] Beirdo: so when I did lame_decode, it recursively called the function by mistake
[02:09:00] Beirdo: now to take out all my bullshit debugging :)
[02:11:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: http://voxnet.dyndns.org:5003/clipboard/?board=2559
[02:12:00] mini-morfic: Beirdo: printf style debugging?
[02:13:00] Beirdo: yeah, buttloads of it
[02:13:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: hey
[02:13:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: snd_bt87x isn't depending on anything
[02:13:00] Beirdo: Heya :)
[02:13:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: how ya been?
[02:13:00] Beirdo: tired, etc. :) But not bad
[02:15:00] Cardoe: I'm trying to get a new system
[02:15:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: http://voxnet.dyndns.org:5003/clipboard/?board=2560
[02:15:00] Beirdo: heh
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[02:16:00] Cardoe: options snd cards_limit=2 4,1 All ???
[02:16:00] Cardoe: do you see anything in dmesg from snd_bt87x?
[02:16:00] Cardoe: it's gotta be higher up
[02:16:00] Cardoe: then what ya sent me
[02:16:00] Cardoe: it's gonna be where alsa initializing
[02:17:00] rpete: I've got a combination of nvidia driver, pvr250 and kt600 that I think is unstable
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[02:19:00] mini-morfic: it shows no sound cards in where ALSA initializes in kernel, sound works fine here however (same for the cs46xx driver not showing in dmesg)
[02:19:00] mini-morfic: sound of cs46xx works i mean
[02:19:00] mini-morfic: it shows both loaded when i boot monolithic kernel only
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[02:22:00] Beirdo: OK, getting somewhere
[02:23:00] Beirdo: now the lame_decode works, and the lame_encode is still borked :)
[02:25:00] mini-morfic: ok, back making fully modularized krnel
[02:26:00] riksta: any java gurus in here?
[02:26:00] riksta: hey Beirdo
[02:26:00] riksta: i'm on an all nighter, doing java deadline this morning :(
[02:27:00] Beirdo: fun
[02:27:00] Beirdo: no java for me
[02:27:00] riksta: i am stressing
[02:27:00] Mrgoose: hrmm
[02:28:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo: heh i thought your Directory creator part
[02:28:00] Mrgoose: was bash script
[02:28:00] Mrgoose: seems its not
[02:28:00] Mrgoose: im tryin to create part of a script that asks where you would like to extract something to
[02:32:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: added bt87x to asoundrc but instead of card 0 i did card 1, would that be right?
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[02:45:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: yes
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[02:46:00] mini-morfic: still nothing and no /dev/dsp1 yet
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[02:47:00] mini-morfic: options snd cards_limit=2 4,1 All <--- no idea about the junk after =2 that is not in the file
[02:50:00] mini-morfic: im afraid ill only be able to use that patch cable through line then :/
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[02:50:00] abarbaccia: anybody here use irxevent w a hauppauge remote and want to send me their .lircrc file to save me a chunk of time?
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[02:53:00] cold_boot: hello
[02:53:00] mcmay: Is this a good place to ask about nuvexport?
[02:54:00] cold_boot: i' having problems my frontend doesn;t want to schedule programs
[02:54:00] ** xris is unimpressed with ffmpeg's xvid export **
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[02:54:00] Beirdo: works fine for me, xris
[02:54:00] Beirdo: :)
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[02:55:00] ** xris is picky **
[02:55:00] Cardoe: transcode all the way
[02:55:00] Cardoe: how's the aspect ratio stuff?
[02:56:00] xris: will have to see how transcode handles mpeg2 files
[02:56:00] mini-morfic: transcode is the reason this XP3200 is back on gentoo, after a while of wifebehappy XP Pro only
[02:56:00] mini-morfic: xris: well enough to create dvdable mpeg2, figuring out all the options is the biggest pain
[02:57:00] xris: mini-morfic: I don't care about dvd. waste of space, if you ask me.
[02:57:00] mini-morfic: and for best compatability it is best to fill in the letterbox physically, or well that is who i solved making some picky set top dvd players happy
[02:57:00] xris: can fit 27 half hour xvid shows on a dvd.
[02:58:00] opello: how do i just get an mpeg, complete with commercials from my nuv? i have a pvr-500 with a hardware encoder
[02:58:00] mini-morfic: xris: well one tip, if you dont want to deal with having to get the input settings right use -x mplayer, unless you already do that
[02:58:00] xris: opello: learn to use mv
[02:58:00] stoffel_: opello: mv movie.nuv movie.mpeg
[02:58:00] opello: xris: i thought the nuv had 'other stuff' in it
[02:58:00] mini-morfic: so is ebaying a pvr-150 worth it, or should i rather not cause it might not work any better than this free older bt878 based card?
[02:59:00] xris: opello: you don't have nupplevideo files.
[02:59:00] ** xris curses the devs (again) for not naming the mpeg files .mpg **
[02:59:00] xris: opello: if you have a hardware encoder, they're plain old mpg files unless you transcode them.
[02:59:00] opello: yippie
[03:00:00] mcmay: Is there a good list of transcode commands? I can't make much sense of it, and nuvexport isn't helping, either.
[03:00:00] xris: mcmay: tons. why's why I wrote nuvexport. it's a huge pain to do it manually.
[03:00:00] mcmay: hmm. Can you tell me why nuvexport would be producing 0-byte files?
[03:00:00] mini-morfic: i mean i could watch on this one and record on the other
[03:01:00] mini-morfic: does mplayer pay nuv files?
[03:01:00] xris: mcmay: search the mailing list archives for how to use --debug, and then you will probably figure it out.
[03:01:00] xris: mini-morfic: nupplevideo, no.
[03:01:00] xris: well, sort of. not the mythtv ones (they're extended nupplevideo)
[03:01:00] mini-morfic: xris: damn then my -x mplayer trick doesnt work there ;P
[03:02:00] xris: mini-morfic: well, many people don't have nupplevideo files anymore.
[03:04:00] mini-morfic: i wish this card was a little easier to convince to give me muxed sound from tvcard not patched through line in :/
[03:05:00] xris: mini-morfic: thus are bttv cards.
[03:06:00] mini-morfic: xris: meaning what?
[03:06:00] xris: nothing. that's just how bttv cards are.
[03:10:00] mini-morfic: looks like it
[03:10:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe's willingness to look it al over with me made me hope i could rid myself of that cable
[03:11:00] mini-morfic: i might really save for a pvr150, give this card i got free to someone who is happy with a patch cable
[03:12:00] xris: hmm, no kormoc
[03:12:00] mini-morfic: kormoc?
[03:12:00] xris: my minion.
[03:12:00] Cardoe: the VOIP conference in the topic is run by who?
[03:13:00] xris: first night at his new apartment, no internet.
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[03:13:00] xris: was going to show him that my recipe program could parse his plain-english recipe with no problem.
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[03:15:00] xris: really need to find time to work on that program
[03:15:00] cold_boot: i'm having a weird problem i can schedule with my mythfrontend on a remote system but the frontend doesn't show any upcoming programs then, anyone have this
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[03:27:00] mini-morfic: 'night, thanks for the help
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[03:39:00] cesman: hello everyone
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[03:43:00] defaultro: anyone here has an hdtv receiver?
[03:46:00] cesman: yes
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[03:47:00] defaultro: hi cesman
[03:47:00] defaultro: do you record hd?
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[03:57:00] defaultro: anyone here does hd recording via firewire?
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[07:13:00] muxx: hello, anyone awake ?
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[08:47:00] muxx: guys, can anybody answer my questions ?
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[08:55:00] phon: hello
[08:55:00] phon: anyone knows wheter it possible to start an application on a remote X display through a SSH connection ?
[08:56:00] phon: in this case i wanna be able to kill and restart the mythfrontend remotely
[08:57:00] muxx: phon> just set DISPLAY before you start the app
[08:58:00] phon: to what do i set it ?
[08:58:00] phon: set DISPLAY=0:1 ? something like this ?
[08:58:00] muxx: something like that
[08:59:00] muxx: man 7 X
[08:59:00] muxx: when you ssh on a remote machine, ssh creates a tunnel for you and sets DISPLAY accordingly
[09:00:00] phon: ok i'll try that
[09:00:00] phon: found some info about the DISPLAY variable
[09:00:00] phon: reading it now
[09:02:00] muxx: if you have just one screen, you won't need the dot
[09:03:00] phon: [mythtv@localhost ~]$ DISPLAY=:0
[09:03:00] phon: [mythtv@localhost ~]$ mythfrontend &
[09:03:00] phon: [1] 7089
[09:03:00] phon: [mythtv@localhost ~]$ mythfrontend: cannot connect to X server
[09:04:00] muxx: setting environment variables vary from shell to shell
[09:04:00] muxx: do echo $DISPLAY to check
[09:05:00] phon: its bash and it sets it correctly
[09:05:00] fridge: phon, did user mythtv start the X11 session?
[09:05:00] phon: i'm not sure, the machine boots into X11
[09:06:00] fridge: If not, you'll need to play with xauth to allow mythtv to connect to whatever user is currently controlling X11's session
[09:06:00] phon: and i got KDE set up to automatically log in user mythtv
[09:06:00] fridge: xauth extract – $DISPLAY | ssh mythtv@host xauth merge -
[09:07:00] fridge: and set up restricted password-less ssh keys
[09:07:00] fridge: that's how I've got it so that myth runs on my second head when I log in normally
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[09:07:00] phon: i got only one display
[09:08:00] phon: but the problem is that that pc running myth doesn't have a keyboard
[09:08:00] phon: and when i kill mythfrontend remotely i can't start it again
[09:09:00] phon: is this kind of the same problem you had ?
[09:09:00] fridge: while true; do mythfrontend;done
[09:09:00] fridge: :D
[09:10:00] fridge: then when it dies, it will restart automatically
[09:11:00] muxx: btw I am recalling that on some gnulinux distros TCP connections were disabled by default
[09:11:00] phon: can i put that in a shell script in KDE's Autostart dir ?
[09:13:00] phon: i think it can handle TCP connections cuz apache/time server works just fine
[09:13:00] muxx: I mean TCP connections to X
[09:14:00] muxx: -server
[09:14:00] phon: ah, ic
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[09:22:00] muxx: phon> are you sshing as user mythtv ?
[09:23:00] phon: yes
[09:23:00] muxx: phondo ps -aux and check which display X runs on
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[09:51:00] muxx: guys, can anybody answer my questions ?
[10:00:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: Just ask if someone can or wants to answer they will :)
[10:01:00] ** GreyFoxx inserts a , after ask **
[10:02:00] muxx: thanks GreyFoxx
[10:03:00] muxx: I have two questions more or less related to DB used in MythTV
[10:03:00] muxx: 1. can I have backend and frontend running on one machine, and DB server running on another machine
[10:03:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[10:04:00] muxx: how do I do it then ? can you point me to some resources on how I configure MythTV to work this way
[10:05:00] GreyFoxx: Nothing special you need to do, install mysql on the other machine, and point myth to it via the mysql.txt file that myth uses to know where the DB is
[10:05:00] muxx: cool, thanks ! 8)
[10:05:00] GreyFoxx: and of course configure mysql to accept connections from the other machine
[10:06:00] muxx: 2. can I use some other DB, for example sqlite
[10:06:00] GreyFoxx: no
[10:06:00] muxx: any other lighter alternative ?
[10:06:00] GreyFoxx: No
[10:06:00] muxx: why 8)
[10:07:00] GreyFoxx: Cause the codestarted it chose mysql :)
[10:07:00] GreyFoxx: I've seen various attempts to add postgres support or to make it more db agnostic, but nothing that's complete
[10:07:00] muxx: I know nothing about databases, sorry
[10:08:00] GreyFoxx: Mysql is not a "heavy" database anyway
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[10:08:00] muxx: well, my server is already struggling for RAM 8)
[10:08:00] GreyFoxx: Now Oracle is what I would call heavy heh
[10:08:00] GreyFoxx: ahh
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[10:09:00] muxx: ok, I guess I'l have to buy more RAM then 8)
[10:09:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[10:11:00] muxx: are USB DVB cards well supportd by MythTV ? I got my card working on my xbox-linux very well (I can record streams using tzap/cat)
[10:11:00] fridge: if it works with tzap, it should work with myth
[10:12:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: I don't know of anyone using a USB DVB device so I wouldn't knbow
[10:12:00] muxx: cool, thanks guys ! I am going to try to install both backend and frontend to my xbox and used MySQL running on another machine
[10:12:00] muxx: it provides standard interface in /dev/dvb/...
[10:13:00] GreyFoxx: then it might well work, I just don't know of anyone in particular who is using one :)
[10:13:00] muxx: cool, I am going to try. I thought that V4L is all about standard interfacing
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[10:14:00] GreyFoxx: until someone does it, I rarely assume if I can avoid it
[10:14:00] muxx: GreyFoxx> understandable
[10:15:00] muxx: thanks for your answers guys !
[10:17:00] muxx: oh, one more thing. are there any limitations on MySQL version ?
[10:20:00] GreyFoxx: I think most everyone is running a recent 3.23 or 4.0x
[10:20:00] GreyFoxx: I've heard a few reports of issues with 4.1, and would not be suprised if there were problems with 5.x
[10:20:00] GreyFoxx: personally I use 4.0 with query caching enabled
[10:21:00] muxx: is it better than 3.23 ?
[10:22:00] GreyFoxx: That's generally the purpose of new versions :)
[10:22:00] muxx: well, in pratice newer versions can have new bugs 8)
[10:22:00] GreyFoxx: Yes, and can fix old ones, increase functionality :)
[10:23:00] muxx: okay. what I need is stability and preferably less RAM hungryness
[10:23:00] GreyFoxx: I've been using 4.0 for a long time both at home and in several work related projects and had no issues., And Query caching can make a significant improvment in speed
[10:24:00] muxx: ok, installing 4.0 now
[10:24:00] muxx: 4.0.24 to be exact (if it makes any difference)
[10:24:00] GreyFoxx: That's what I have here
[10:27:00] muxx: lets hope that running it on FreeBSD won't cause any incompatibility
[10:27:00] GreyFoxx: The database? I can't imagine why it would
[10:28:00] muxx: yeah, the DB. me too
[10:31:00] cold_boot: can anyone help wme with a scheduling problem?
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[10:39:00] GeckoFiend: cold_boot what's the problem?
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[10:43:00] laga: poor GeckoFiend ;)
[10:46:00] muxx: guys, how do I install MythTV on debian if I don't want to install MySQL ?
[10:46:00] laga: you don't.
[10:46:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: You will need the mysql client libraries most likely
[10:46:00] laga: well.
[10:46:00] GreyFoxx: MySQL doesn't need to be running, but it's libraries will need to be there
[10:46:00] laga: you will at least need one mysqld ;)
[10:46:00] laga: somewhere in your network
[10:47:00] muxx: it will be on another machine
[10:47:00] muxx: mysql libraries and qt-mysql
[10:47:00] GreyFoxx: you still need the mysql client libraries on the filesystem where the binary will run
[10:47:00] GreyFoxx: yup
[10:48:00] muxx: how do I installl it then ? because it looks like debian package has all dependencies set
[10:48:00] laga: well
[10:48:00] laga: umm
[10:48:00] laga: edit the source deb? ;)
[10:48:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: you must have the mysql client libraries, therefore you must install them to use mythtv
[10:49:00] GreyFoxx: Oh, does the deb try to create the mythtv database for you as well ?
[10:49:00] muxx: I can build from sources. and I would prefer to do a minimal installation. I don't need all that DVD encoding/ogg/whatever stuff
[10:49:00] GreyFoxx: Personally I always build from source
[10:49:00] muxx: GreyFoxx> no, but I think it will try to install server as well. and I don;t need it !
[10:49:00] GreyFoxx: muxx ahh
[10:50:00] muxx: can you tell me what is the minimal list of dependencies so I can get them and build maually ?
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[10:51:00] GreyFoxx: muxx I believe they are listed in the mythtv.org docs on manually installing
[10:51:00] GreyFoxx: and you can look at the README inside the mythtv source
[10:51:00] muxx: 4.3 ?
[10:52:00] GreyFoxx: 4.3 what ?
[10:52:00] laga: GreyFoxx: mythtv-database creates the database, yep.
[10:52:00] GreyFoxx: I'm not a mind reader :)
[10:52:00] laga: hi arg-on
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[10:53:00] muxx: sorry, "4.1 Software requirements for compiling MythTV"
[10:53:00] arg-on: hi laga! do I know you?
[10:53:00] GreyFoxx: sounds about right
[10:53:00] GreyFoxx: but it would certainly make your life easier to read it all
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[10:54:00] GreyFoxx: man I hate gather material for a presentation
[10:54:00] muxx: sure
[10:54:00] laga: arg-on: nope. but i saw your host and assumed that you are german and wondered if you're interested in joining #mythtv-de – a german channel about mythtv ;)
[10:54:00] GreyFoxx: I never know how much detail to go into or what the audience will find interesting
[10:55:00] arg-on: ahh, nice
[10:55:00] arg-on: idling both
[10:55:00] laga: GreyFoxx: make sure to use some pictures of naked women. the audience will find that interesting. :)
[10:55:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[10:56:00] GreyFoxx: Well I'm gathering info for someone else who is more creative to make into slides  :)
[10:56:00] laga: oh, hehe
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[11:04:00] mechtn: hey guys
[11:04:00] mechtn: well i never quite figured out my color problem last night
[11:04:00] mechtn: i tried xawtv and all my brightness settings were 100% and i couldnt change them
[11:05:00] mechtn: i used the findtvcardoptions.sh to see if i could figure out the options i needed to add but it still didnt help
[11:05:00] mechtn: there has to be some place in mythtv to change the brightness etc ..
[11:07:00] GeckoFiend: mechtn there is if you have the xv piscture controls turned on
[11:07:00] GeckoFiend: picture even
[11:08:00] mechtn: how do you turn that on?
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[11:08:00] mechtn: how do i determine if i'm using cx88 or bttv
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[11:13:00] Beirdo: lsmod
[11:15:00] mechtn: cx8800 33229 0
[11:15:00] mechtn: cx88xx 47957 1 cx8800
[11:15:00] mechtn: i dont see any bttv listed anywhere
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[11:17:00] mechtn: also to clarify something..
[11:17:00] FairWtns: insmod right_working_lirc
[11:17:00] mechtn: my video card supports svideo and dvi ...
[11:18:00] mechtn: thats something different than TV Tuner correct? which is my ATI TV Wonder PRO card...
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[11:20:00] FairWtns: mechtn:Tuner=Input DVI=Output (Svideo usually output also)
[11:20:00] GeckoFiend: mechtn have you looked at the settings in myth at all?
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[11:23:00] mechtn: ya i have looked at them a little
[11:23:00] mechtn: last night my picture was missing colors or something
[11:23:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: is that your VOIP stuff in the topic?
[11:23:00] mechtn: like no green was present
[11:24:00] Beirdo: the VOIP conference is mishehu's
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[11:27:00] laga: are there actually any people?
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[11:30:00] Jazon: hello everyone
[11:30:00] lucas332: hey
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[11:31:00] Jazon: I am in the process of trying to switch my HP Media Center m1080n to Linux, and was wondering if I could ask a few questions here.
[11:31:00] Jazon: relating to MythTV of course
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[11:34:00] Jazon: I have the ledtek winfast 2000 xp with tv tuner in this box along with an ATI PCI-E 300 – I see I should be able to get the winfast card working (http://www.linuxhelp.ca/guides/tvtuner/), but one issue that I have been unable to resolve is that my tv output is scrambled. I have tried in vain to remedy this.
[11:35:00] Jazon: also, will I be able to use my remote and IR extender to change channels on my sat receiver with MythTV like I did with XP MCE?
[11:38:00] lucas332: I don't know that card, but you can look at lirc for support for your remote control.
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[11:40:00] Jazon: I guess I was asking whether or not MythTV has the capability to actually DO this, assuming I can get my remote to work...
[11:42:00] lucas332: myth supports lirc.
[11:42:00] lucas332: wether myth supports your videocard is up to google.
[11:51:00] Coume: Jazon, for info about videocard: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143
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[11:58:00] candc540: hello everyone
[11:58:00] candc540: i finally got all moved and now i have internet :)
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[12:00:00] candc540: well time to go to work talk to you guys later
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[12:01:00] Jazon: thanks Coume
[12:01:00] Coume: ur welcome
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[12:08:00] Jazon: hmmm – does anyone know about the remote that shipped with my HP m1080n? it is not curved at all, but rather rectangular.
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[12:12:00] Jazon: oh crap – I think I am hooped – Hardware browser detects it as a Philips eHome Infrared Transceiver
[12:15:00] laga: it could work
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[12:15:00] laga: install lirc, fire up "irw", hit a few buttons on the remote and see what happens
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[12:17:00] AranC23: laga: he may want mode2 first
[12:17:00] AranC23: iirc, irw only shows stuff if you have lirc correctly configured for your remote
[12:18:00] AranC23: speaking of which, I found a remote that my homebrew ir receiver doesn't seem to be able to receive codes from... the xbox dvd remote
[12:18:00] AranC23: and I thought that the homebrew ir receiver could do it all... never found one before it couldn't work with
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[12:38:00] mechtn: ok so i have finally figured out my tuner is using cx88 drivers
[12:42:00] laga: mythtv.info is slow to scroll in my firefox.
[12:43:00] stoffel: same here
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[13:05:00] CyberKnet: mmm... caesar salad
[13:05:00] laga: np: ac/dc – hail caesar
[13:06:00] CyberKnet: xris: any untranslated strings that you need patches for prior to .18?
[13:06:00] CyberKnet: chicken caesar salad, to be precise.
[13:06:00] xris: CyberKnet: you'd have to look at the language files
[13:07:00] CyberKnet: I ought to create a tool to just spit out untranslated strings for a particular language
[13:08:00] CyberKnet: It would also be nice to be able to say "This string is intentionally left untranslated". I guess you would do that by translating it verbatim though =P"
[13:08:00] CyberKnet: kind of screws you when the upstream translation changes though.
[13:12:00] CyberKnet: gah. Too much work. I gotta jet. Hope to be by soon-ish.
[13:14:00] xris: CyberKnet: untranslated strings are just set to '' in the language files
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[13:25:00] ** Beirdo yawns **
[13:26:00] Beirdo: I guess I should invest in some lunch
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[13:26:00] ** laga reyawns **
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[13:26:00] ** laga is again too broke to even afford a coffee ;) **
[13:26:00] ** Beirdo throws a euro coin into the hat **
[13:26:00] laga: thank you!
[13:26:00] laga: 2.5 coffees ;)
[13:26:00] Beirdo: being broke sucks
[13:27:00] laga: yep
[13:27:00] Beirdo: been there far too often
[13:27:00] laga: gotta go to the bank
[13:27:00] Beirdo: http://www.cafepress.com/beirdo
[13:27:00] Beirdo: heh
[13:28:00] ** Beirdo wonders if anyone will buy eventually **
[13:28:00] laga: hehe
[13:28:00] laga: not me
[13:28:00] laga: remember, I'm broke ;)
[13:28:00] Beirdo: and I have to find the CDs for the Georgian Bay pictures and get it onto my gallery
[13:30:00] laga: looks like a lovely place, according to google
[13:31:00] xris: heh
[13:32:00] xris: I should get myself some printable bumper stickers.
[13:32:00] laga: hehe
[13:32:00] laga: "commercials broken, watch for PVR"
[13:33:00] laga: and i wonder if desperate housewives is any good.
[13:33:00] Beirdo: Georgian Bay? Yeah
[13:33:00] Beirdo: I grew up in that area
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[13:34:00] laga: heh
[13:34:00] laga: lots of nature
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[13:37:00] ** xris misses photography **
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[13:43:00] xris: I wonder how close I am to having my recipe parser work.
[13:43:00] zamboni: I screwed up when marking a file for editing, and now the recorded show will loop from llayung the first frame and then dropping back into the recordings preview screen
[13:43:00] zamboni: very weird
[13:44:00] zamboni: the filesize is intact
[13:44:00] zamboni: but its now tagged for a very large cut of everything but th efirsh two or so frames
[13:44:00] zamboni: any clues on how I can fix this?
[13:44:00] zamboni: :(
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[13:45:00] xris: zamboni: go back in and re-edit it?
[13:45:00] xris: or manually remove the cutlist in mysql
[13:46:00] zamboni: it wont let me all it does is when I press enter to play is it plays the first frame and drops back into the preview screen
[13:46:00] zamboni: okay
[13:46:00] zamboni: thats what I thought
[13:46:00] zamboni: but i sthis a feature ?
[13:46:00] xris: you'd think there would be a command to invoke the editor from the program list.
[13:46:00] zamboni: yeah
[13:46:00] xris: what happens when you press "right" on the show?
[13:47:00] xris: instead of enter, to play it.
[13:47:00] zamboni: you mean highlite it?
[13:47:00] zamboni: then press
[13:47:00] zamboni: ??
[13:47:00] xris: right-arrow
[13:47:00] xris: a menu should come up.
[13:47:00] xris: dunno what options are there, but maybe edit is.
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[13:49:00] zamboni: yes but the same thing happens and the other choices look dangerous at his point ;)
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[13:49:00] xris: ok. I just wasn't sure what was there.
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[13:50:00] mechtn: :P
[13:50:00] xris: you want: UPDATE recorded SET cutlist=NULL WHERE chanid=XXXX AND starttime=XXXX;
[13:51:00] zamboni: I does the same thing as >> in preview recordings
[13:51:00] xris: note that starttime is a "datetime" field, in the format "0000-00–00 00:00:00"
[13:51:00] Beirdo: lunch time
[13:51:00] zamboni: like timecode I guess?
[13:51:00] zamboni: Im eating two tins of kippers as I type
[13:52:00] xris: zamboni: you'll have to get the chanid and starttime on your own.
[13:52:00] zamboni: yep got that anyway fro m the filename
[13:53:00] xris: yeah
[13:53:00] xris: just need to format starttime differently now that it's no longer a timestamp field.
[13:53:00] zamboni: right thanks
[13:54:00] ** zamboni wonders if anyone here or the devs are smpte members **
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[13:57:00] laga: simple mail transer protcol elite?
[13:57:00] laga: simple mail protocol transfer elite i mean, sorry.
[13:59:00] zamboni: no society of motion picture & television engineers
[13:59:00] laga: oh.
[13:59:00] zamboni: moonlighting
[13:59:00] zamboni: :)
[14:00:00] mechtn: sup guys
[14:00:00] mechtn: well i've ugpraded to the latest video card drivers from ati and the latest cx88 drivers
[14:00:00] mechtn: maybe my output wont be so messed up on my monitor now
[14:01:00] laga: ati and cx88...sounds like a good combination
[14:02:00] GeckoFiend: mechtn using an ATI card? good luck
[14:03:00] mechtn: hehe..
[14:03:00] mechtn: its all i got :P
[14:05:00] mechtn: the color is perfect on mplayer for playing an avi file
[14:05:00] Beirdo: ATI works fine for me
[14:05:00] laga: dont listen to him, he's a geek
[14:05:00] GeckoFiend: Beirdo no tv out and no opengl sync though
[14:05:00] Beirdo: you're one to talk :)
[14:05:00] Beirdo: GeckoFiend: true. I have TV out
[14:05:00] laga: ;)
[14:05:00] Beirdo: but no openGL
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[14:06:00] GeckoFiend: ahh I thought the TV out was borked in ATIs drivers.
[14:06:00] Beirdo: never had an issue with it that I couldn't resolve :)
[14:06:00] Beirdo: I used a 9200SE for a long time, now using a 9600 Pro
[14:07:00] Beirdo: if you have < 8500, you are SOL though
[14:08:00] ** xris what's /action do? **
[14:08:00] xris: oh, same as /me
[14:09:00] xris: that's dumb
[14:09:00] mechtn: ok excellect
[14:09:00] Beirdo: likely still better off with a nVidia card though
[14:09:00] mechtn: the video/sound are perfect with mplayer and an .avi file
[14:09:00] mechtn: so it has to be myth thats causing the color to be off
[14:09:00] zamboni: /action puts your nick at the head of what you type
[14:10:00] ** zamboni test **
[14:10:00] mechtn: or you can just do /me
[14:10:00] ** mechtn test **
[14:10:00] mechtn: at least for mirc :P
[14:10:00] Beirdo: mechtn wants us to do /him
[14:11:00] laga: i prefer /me.
[14:11:00] mechtn: i guess unplugging my usbdrive just killed my linux machne
[14:11:00] mechtn: grr
[14:11:00] mechtn: mouse/keyboard locked up
[14:12:00] mechtn: hrm
[14:15:00] ** xris was trying to find the command like /msg that also opens a new window. **
[14:15:00] xris: but gaim doesn't list it in /help
[14:16:00] laga: /query ?
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[14:22:00] xris: laga: that'd be the one
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[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 01 – Never Say Die.mp3  ::INFO:: 4.50Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 02 – Johnny Blade.mp3  ::INFO:: 7.59Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 03 – Junior's Eyes.mp3  ::INFO:: 7.88Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 04 – A Hard Road.mp3  ::INFO:: 7.09Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 05 – Shock Wave.mp3  ::INFO:: 6.17Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 06 – Air Dance.mp3  ::INFO:: 6.20Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 07 – Over To You.mp3  ::INFO:: 6.31Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 08 – Breakout.mp3  ::INFO:: 3.04Mb
[14:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 09 – Swinging The Chain.mp3  ::INFO:: 4.98Mb
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[14:34:00] xris: wtf?
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[14:35:00] D-side: thats one of the oddest floods I've ever seen.
[14:35:00] xris: yeah
[14:36:00] visit0r: hmm must be some kind of bot warez script?
[14:37:00] Beirdo: some dumbass is trying to share music in the channel?
[14:37:00] visit0r: or request it
[14:37:00] D-side: maybe a misfire/paste
[14:37:00] D-side: and then felt like an ass and bailed
[14:37:00] visit0r: yep, probably meant to be private. feel free to test, if there's one called SpiKe
[14:37:00] visit0r: :)
[14:38:00] visit0r: naah I don't even dig black sabbath too much
[14:42:00] xris: maybe. isn't even logged in anymore.
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[14:53:00] Beirdo: feeling minion-less?
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[14:59:00] xris: yes
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[15:11:00] jonpall: hello
[15:12:00] jonpall: I need some help
[15:12:00] jonpall: what frequency id should be used for s-video input
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[15:14:00] AranC23: 4?
[15:14:00] AranC23: just kidding, why would you need a frequency id for s-video?
[15:15:00] xris: jonpall: svideo is svideo. no freq
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[15:16:00] jonpall: xris: yeah
[15:16:00] jonpall: that's what I thought
[15:16:00] jonpall: but the video is fuzzy if I leave it blank
[15:17:00] jonpall: also
[15:17:00] jonpall: what interlace should one use from mpeg-2
[15:18:00] xris: jonpall: whichever looks best on your screen
[15:18:00] xris: and no clue about freq. svideo shouldn't even have that option, it's used for changing channels, which svideo doesn' thave.
[15:18:00] jonpall: exactly
[15:18:00] jonpall: very strange
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[15:36:00] ** GeckoFiend tries in vain to get the words to "Casiotone Nation" out of his head **
[15:40:00] Beirdo: OK... invoicing done...
[15:41:00] Beirdo: yuo'd think I'd be a bit more... prompt with invoicing :)
[15:45:00] Mrgoose: sup Beirdo
[15:45:00] Mrgoose: was it necessary for you to use seperate modules in your script? or did that just make it easier?
[15:45:00] Beirdo: what are you talking about?
[15:46:00] Mrgoose: your nuvexport
[15:46:00] Mrgoose: you use perl modules
[15:46:00] Beirdo: It's not mine
[15:46:00] Mrgoose: wtf
[15:46:00] Beirdo: it's xris', and I help him with it
[15:46:00] Mrgoose: i thought you wrote nuvexport
[15:46:00] Mrgoose: oh
[15:46:00] Beirdo: parts of it I wrote
[15:46:00] Mrgoose: i see
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[15:48:00] _membreya: is anyone able to explain why mythbackend won't load for me? I always get
[15:48:00] _membreya: QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket
[15:48:00] _membreya: Failed to bind port: 6543
[15:48:00] _membreya: even though I've setup /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services
[15:49:00] xris: Mrgoose: it makes things MUCH easier.
[15:49:00] GreyFoxx: there is nothing myth needs to have in either of those
[15:50:00] Mrgoose: xris: ahh, just to organize stuff right?
[15:50:00] GreyFoxx: ]mem it's likely just another copy is already running and bound to the port so the one you are trying to run can't get it
[15:50:00] xris: yeah. have you ever tried to edit a single 6000 line fine?
[15:50:00] xris: s/fine/file/
[15:51:00] _membreya: ps aux |grep mythbackend says that it's not running :(
[15:52:00] GreyFoxx: mem what did you put in inetd.conf?
[15:52:00] GreyFoxx: you probably have inetd binding the port
[15:52:00] _membreya: mythbackend stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /etc/init.d/mythbackend
[15:52:00] GreyFoxx: myth is not an inetd service
[15:53:00] _membreya: aaah :) took it out of inetd and it works ;)
[15:54:00] GreyFoxx: inetd services are for stuff that you want to be launch when and incoming connection comes in and close after, not for daemons that run all the time:)
[15:55:00] _membreya: lol, now I can start it by hand, but when I do the /etc/init.d/mythbackend start I get the can't bind...and yes I've killed all other instances ;) ...hmm might just have to mythbackend & it :P
[15:55:00] laga: check its logs
[15:55:00] directhex: check your /var/log/mythwhat#ever
[15:55:00] laga: less /var/log/myth<tab>
[15:56:00] jonpall: anyone know why mythtv seems blurry
[15:56:00] D-side: you need glasses? :)
[15:56:00] laga: jonpall: dirty glasses? too much drinking?
[15:56:00] jonpall: hehehe
[15:56:00] laga: heya D-side!
[15:56:00] jonpall: not really
[15:56:00] GeckoFiend: laga bah you beat me to it
[15:56:00] jonpall: i have a pvr 15
[15:56:00] jonpall: 150
[15:56:00] D-side: laga: howdy. how goes it
[15:56:00] laga: GeckoFiend: heh.
[15:56:00] laga: D-side: fine. and what about you?
[15:57:00] jonpall: do you disagree that mythtv is more blurry than the original input?
[15:57:00] laga: jonpall: well. i haven't tried to compare it directly. umm, try the "kerneldeint" filter.
[15:57:00] laga: no.
[15:57:00] laga: wait.
[15:57:00] laga: i mean "denoise3d"
[15:57:00] jonpall: umm.. i have a hardware encoder
[15:57:00] laga: but i can take a lot of cpu
[15:57:00] jonpall: does that work?
[15:57:00] _membreya: now...with mythfrontend..where's it's config? :P
[15:57:00] laga: oh. well.
[15:58:00] laga: i dont think so.
[15:58:00] jonpall: _membreya: in the mysql database on the backend
[15:58:00] _membreya: noooooooooooooooo
[15:59:00] _membreya: It's trying to connect to 192.168.0.6 (my IP) but I want it to connect to 127.0.01
[15:59:00] jonpall: right
[15:59:00] jonpall: try ~/.mythtv
[16:00:00] _membreya: i had it running before :|
[16:00:00] _membreya: meh
[16:00:00] _membreya: I can just run mythtv...just means I miss out on the other stuff ;)
[16:03:00] _membreya: just figured out what was buggering it up ..mythphone :P purged it and it works fine :P
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[16:10:00] Dr_Barnowl: Hi there, any DEC2000-t users here?
[16:16:00] Beirdo: beer me
[16:16:00] laga: whisky me
[16:16:00] ** laga is in the right mood for some hard stuff **
[16:17:00] Beirdo: mmmm.
[16:17:00] Beirdo: scotch
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[16:21:00] _membreya: ok, well I've at least got mythtv showing a fuzzy picture now (snow) ....the signal is coming in straight from a cable box....
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[16:25:00] D-side: laga: oh, not bad. (half an hour later)
[16:25:00] laga: hehe.
[16:26:00] laga: seems like you're busy ;)
[16:28:00] D-side: yeah. working.
[16:28:00] D-side: employment is overrated. :/
[16:28:00] laga: yep.
[16:28:00] laga: and my mythtv is now working. great.
[16:28:00] D-side: why was it broken?
[16:29:00] Beirdo: because employment is overrated
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[16:29:00] D-side: oh that reminds me. QT 3.3.4 introduces timezone issues with mythtv, yes?
[16:29:00] laga: never mind. never fscking mind.
[16:29:00] D-side: Beirdo: it all depends on your job :)
[16:29:00] D-side: laga: that bad eh?
[16:30:00] laga: yep.
[16:30:00] Beirdo: yes, it has been fixed in CVS, AFAIK
[16:30:00] laga: indeed.
[16:30:00] D-side: very good. thanks.
[16:30:00] laga: because it used to work with the wrong mixer settings
[16:30:00] D-side: ah. sounds aggravating.
[16:31:00] laga: .oO(...why hast thou forsaken me?!..)
[16:32:00] laga: fsck. 120 gb. i dont want my big hard drive anymore.
[16:32:00] D-side: i'll take it.
[16:32:00] laga: :>
[16:33:00] laga: just a matter of dividing it into smaller partition
[16:33:00] laga: s
[16:33:00] D-side: ah, yes. :)
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[16:39:00] GeckoFiend: laga heh did you format it ext3 or something?
[16:40:00] new-b-wan: can anyone reccomend a debian tutorial for mythtv?
[16:40:00] new-b-wan: (recommend)
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[16:40:00] laga: GeckoFiend: ext3.
[16:41:00] GeckoFiend: heh no wonder you hate your drive
[16:41:00] laga: hehe
[16:41:00] laga: i'll use a different fs next time
[16:41:00] laga: but hey, i was young ;)
[16:42:00] laga: i wonder why mythtv freezes the system (still pingable) if the mixer for my bttv card is set up correctly.
[16:43:00] laga: sounds like problems with alsa.
[16:44:00] new-b-wan: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/LinuxDistros
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[16:47:00] new-b-wan: none of these how-tos mention issues with mysql
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[16:47:00] ** how-to mentions issues with mysql **
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[16:47:00] laga: are you happy now?
[16:47:00] new-b-wan: clever
[16:48:00] laga: yep!
[16:48:00] new-b-wan: does your mythtv work?
[16:49:00] laga: half of mine do, yep.
[16:49:00] new-b-wan: do you run debian?
[16:49:00] laga: on the half one that doesn't work, yep.
[16:50:00] TheAsp: laga: it wont take long to check with reiser
[16:50:00] new-b-wan: hmm ... is the problem related to mysql?
[16:50:00] laga: nope.
[16:50:00] laga: TheAsp: thank you.
[16:51:00] new-b-wan: what are you running for the half that works?
[16:52:00] laga: fedora core 3
[16:52:00] laga: works like a charm
[16:54:00] new-b-wan: thanks – I'll try that if I get too frustrated
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[17:01:00] mechtn2: i swear
[17:01:00] mechtn2: i've never had my internet drop this much
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[17:02:00] mechtn: its a freaking T1... its been going down like mad.. i hope they are upgrading equipment or something
[17:02:00] jonpall: fucking nightmare pvr 150
[17:04:00] mechtn: no my ati tv wonder pro is a nightmare :P
[17:04:00] mechtn: thats like a walk in the damn park
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[17:13:00] jonpall: umm
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[17:13:00] jonpall: well
[17:13:00] jonpall: I've spent a whole day sorting out audio
[17:13:00] jonpall: problems
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[17:42:00] LedHed: anything new?
[17:42:00] LedHed: havent been around for a while.
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[17:44:00] Beirdo: oh oh, everyone stop talking about him
[17:44:00] LedHed: :)
[17:44:00] Beirdo: heya, LedHed. Welcome back
[17:44:00] LedHed: thanks
[17:45:00] LedHed: anything new or exciting, myth or otherwise?
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[17:46:00] carl: hi mythtv world!
[17:46:00] LedHed: hello
[17:46:00] Beirdo: meh...
[17:46:00] carl: installing my first Mythbox today
[17:47:00] LedHed: carl, thats great
[17:47:00] LedHed: good luck
[17:47:00] carl: thanks! I've new to Linux, so.. it's taking some time.
[17:47:00] LedHed: Me too, for the last 5 years
[17:47:00] LedHed: :)
[17:48:00] carl: i got through to the 'mythtv-setup', but I'm having trouble with the database when I connect to datadirect.
[17:49:00] LedHed: have you setup an account at labs.zap2it.com?
[17:49:00] carl: yep.
[17:49:00] carl: and it works
[17:49:00] carl: trouble is.. can't access mysql
[17:50:00] LedHed: have you created the database?
[17:50:00] carl: yes.
[17:50:00] carl: and it exists.. i checked
[17:50:00] LedHed: have you setup the permissions?
[17:50:00] LedHed: or granted mythtv (user) permission?
[17:50:00] carl: i believe so.
[17:51:00] LedHed: is the backend/frontend on the same box?
[17:51:00] carl: /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend
[17:51:00] carl: yes
[17:51:00] TheAsp: carl: debian?
[17:51:00] carl: that's where it receives the message.. no Ubuntu
[17:51:00] carl: debian-based
[17:52:00] LedHed: the backend wont start if it cant access the DB
[17:52:00] TheAsp: it's possible your myth mysql password got changed
[17:52:00] visit0r: hmm should mythvideo just appear in mythfrontend after make install?
[17:52:00] LedHed: visit0r: after make install of mythvideo, yes
[17:52:00] TheAsp: snag a copy of mc.sql and edit the passwords
[17:52:00] visit0r: does it need backend restart? should not I think...
[17:52:00] carl: and it doesn't start.. receives errors
[17:52:00] LedHed: visit0r: have you restarted the frontend?
[17:52:00] visit0r: sure
[17:53:00] carl: accessing mythconverg
[17:53:00] TheAsp: then run it through mysql
[17:53:00] visit0r: LedHed: many times
[17:53:00] TheAsp: carl: does it talk about dd_*?
[17:53:00] visit0r: 2005-04–12 23:46:08.745 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
[17:53:00] LedHed: visit0r: try restarting the backend.
[17:53:00] visit0r: it says that in the startupt, I guess that's from mythvideo?
[17:53:00] carl: TheAsp: I'm not sure?
[17:54:00] TheAsp: carl: when it gives errors, does it say something about not being able to find dd_foo?
[17:55:00] carl: I'm finding out
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[17:55:00] visit0r: LedHed: no help from restarting the backend. I suppose it has something to do with that I have installed mythtv to /work/mythtv
[17:55:00] visit0r: and then stow'd to /usr/local because ran out of space on /
[17:56:00] LedHed: could be.
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[17:56:00] LedHed: isnt there a way to tell mythvideo where to install to? with a configure option?
[17:56:00] carl: TheAsp: your right.. it's in the mysql permissions. somewhere
[17:57:00] obe1: i lost some files to a bad disk, I can't remove them from myth? any suggestions? do i have to manually delete from mysql db?
[17:57:00] TheAsp: carl: make a copy of mc.sql, change the password to whats in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[17:57:00] LedHed: visit0r: try configure --help
[17:58:00] visit0r: no configure script in mythvideo
[17:58:00] LedHed: visit0r: ahh.
[17:58:00] visit0r: yes, I tried changing the PREFIX in settings.pro to point to the /work/mythtv, didn't help.
[17:59:00] LedHed: visit0r: sorry no other ideas here
[17:59:00] LedHed: obe1: try a MySQL editor.
[18:00:00] LedHed: obe1: phpmyadmin
[18:00:00] carl: TheAsp: I believe it works
[18:00:00] carl: :)
[18:00:00] obe1: ok, i just saw a post, using 'touch' to create the files needed so its deletable..
[18:01:00] TheAsp: carl: sweet.
[18:01:00] TheAsp: :P
[18:01:00] carl: Thanks much!
[18:01:00] LedHed: obe1: can you paste that URL.
[18:02:00] TheAsp: np
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[18:06:00] JasonBox2: I'm running MythTV on FC and just upgraded to 0.17 and now mythtvfrontend hangs when I run it, killing X recovered the monitor and keyboard, if done remotely
[18:08:00] LedHed: JasonBox2: which FC? 1,2,3?
[18:08:00] LedHed: I had lots of problems when I switched to FC3 & 0.17 (from FC2 & 0.16)
[18:08:00] JasonBox2: FC2 atm
[18:09:00] JasonBox2: Upgrade was on Apr 7th to latest 0.17
[18:09:00] JasonBox2: The frontend completely owns the keyboard and screen locally
[18:09:00] JasonBox2: An strace shows it's stuck in a select() on something
[18:10:00] LedHed: you using the ATRPMS or roll your own?
[18:10:00] JasonBox2: It's ATRPMS
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[18:10:00] LedHed: I had trouble with the ATRPMS. So I compiled 0.17 instead
[18:11:00] JasonBox2: From an ATRPMS source RPM or from Myth sources?
[18:11:00] LedHed: myth Source
[18:11:00] JasonBox2: Interesting
[18:11:00] LedHed: worked out ok, I was able to get my LCD working this way
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[18:12:00] JasonBox2: Excellent
[18:13:00] LedHed: Try Compiling, Its not that bad. (My first time compiling)
[18:13:00] LedHed: and I'm quite the n00b
[18:14:00] obe1: LedHed: http://tinyurl.com/4dqd7
[18:14:00] LedHed: obe1: thanks
[18:16:00] LedHed: obe1: interesting. Mythfrontend cant delete the DB entry because the file is missing. so by doing touch Missing_Filename the file is now created and the frontend can now delete it. Cool
[18:17:00] JasonBox2: Neat, thanks
[18:17:00] obe1: yea, i wish myth would have an override option, to delete it even if it is missing
[18:17:00] LedHed: that would be cool
[18:18:00] LedHed: It would be cool if the Frontend did a delete of both DB entry & File or Either/or
[18:19:00] Beirdo: we look forward to your patches
[18:19:00] LedHed: not
[18:19:00] LedHed: I'm just saying. not promising
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[18:23:00] LedHed: off topic: anyone here have an opinion on squidguard or dansguardian?
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[19:27:00] andr3www: hey all .. I have some problems with your documentation and all the recommendations for hardware, I find sometimes recommending one specific type of hardware ridiculous (ie the videocard)
[19:29:00] LedHed: whats the problem>
[19:30:00] LedHed: andr3www: go with a ATI9200se or nVidia GeForce 440mx.
[19:31:00] ** kormoc recommends the nvidia if one doesn't have any issues using closed drivers. **
[19:31:00] amax: is ATI any more open than nvidia?
[19:31:00] LedHed: nope
[19:32:00] amax: thought so...
[19:32:00] andr3www: I could not for the life of me get my ATI 7500 working with GATOS for TV-Out
[19:32:00] andr3www: That was a nightmare, I had to go with NVidia closed drivers
[19:32:00] kormoc: Ati drivers jsut tend to have... issues...
[19:32:00] andr3www: but if yr machine is > 800mhz, then framebuffer is no problems
[19:32:00] LedHed: andr3www: loose the 7500 and the gatos drivers
[19:32:00] LedHed: go with a 9200se
[19:33:00] LedHed: and ATI drivers
[19:33:00] andr3www: the goal of the box is to spend no money :p
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[19:33:00] LedHed: SOL then
[19:33:00] kormoc: get a cheap nvidia and then don't deal with iffy hardware :P
[19:33:00] andr3www: oh wait you can't do framebuffer in mythtv
[19:33:00] andr3www: my box is a p3 450, so I'm not even doing timeshifting
[19:33:00] LedHed: $35 isnt too much to spend considering it will save you tons of time
[19:34:00] andr3www: what about the challenge
[19:34:00] kormoc: why don't you try to use something like tvtime or xawtv then? not alot of reason to use myth if not timeshifting at all
[19:34:00] kormoc: the challenge is fun, are you up to it tho is more the question :P
[19:34:00] LedHed: 450mhz? you will need hardware decoder
[19:34:00] LedHed: I mean encoder
[19:35:00] andr3www: it plays movies and stuff fine.. i'm not looking to capture
[19:35:00] kormoc: xaw's overlay mode might work with a bttv on a 450mhz.
[19:35:00] kormoc: myth captures live tv
[19:35:00] andr3www: I don't have a TV card in my machine
[19:35:00] andr3www: I was just using it to play movies and stuff on my TV
[19:35:00] LedHed: what are you usind it for? a DVD jukebox?
[19:35:00] kormoc: ahh, gotcha.
[19:36:00] LedHed: ah
[19:36:00] andr3www: 450.. can't do much .. one day I'll dual processor it up and make XVid's on the fly
[19:36:00] LedHed: I was never able to get TV-out forking on my ATI8500 either, I got a cheap $35 9200se and things went sommthly
[19:36:00] andr3www: the closed source drivers didn't work?
[19:37:00] LedHed: andr3www: they wont on anything pre 9100
[19:37:00] andr3www: i think ti's funny you have to use a TV card to watch TV .. on a TV
[19:38:00] andr3www: are there quality problems
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[19:39:00] Mrgoose: anyone here know bash scripting?
[19:39:00] kormoc: The Advanced Bash programming guide does!
[19:39:00] LedHed: andr3www: you dont need a tv-card to watch tv on a tv. just turn the tv on and bingo you have tv. if you want to buffer Live tv then you need a tv capture card
[19:40:00] andr3www: I'm surprised the tV out actually sends out the live tv signal
[19:41:00] LedHed: it doesnt, it buffers about 2 sec. then plays back
[19:41:00] andr3www: so when u watch live tv.. yr actually watching something itj ust recorded?
[19:42:00] kormoc: in myth, yes
[19:42:00] andr3www: crazy
[19:42:00] kormoc: infact, it holds a gig or so of the past tv you just watched too
[19:42:00] kormoc: so you can rewind
[19:42:00] kormoc: I think it does by default anyway.
[19:43:00] andr3www: what format does it record it in .. must be an MPEG
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[19:44:00] kormoc: mpeg in a nuv container, with mp3 sound iirc
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[19:49:00] LedHed: andr3www: I believe that it can capture in mjpeg, mpeg-2, or xvid/divx(mpeg4).
[19:50:00] xris: kormoc: just plain old mpeg, actually.
[19:50:00] Dr_Barnowl: or it just streams Digital TV straight to the disk
[19:50:00] Dr_Barnowl: Because it's MPEG-2 anyway
[19:50:00] xris: only thing actually an nuv is a bttv recording.
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[19:50:00] kormoc: ahh, hence why mine are nuvs then.
[19:51:00] Dr_Barnowl: They all have te .nuv extension though.
[19:51:00] Dr_Barnowl: Regardless of what format they are inside.
[19:54:00] xris: Dr_Barnowl: yes. and it SUCKS.
[19:57:00] Mrgoose: anyone here know bash scripting?
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[20:03:00] xris: Mrgoose: some
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[20:11:00] o_cee: good work.
[20:12:00] o_cee: and to answer your question fall0ut, have a look at mythweb.
[20:12:00] fall0ut: I dont wanna stream music
[20:13:00] fall0ut: I want to control the box
[20:13:00] fall0ut: I found the thread on using a fifo and writing out LIRC commands to the FIFO
[20:13:00] fall0ut: which I may actually a perl script to do so I can use via my ipaq over bluetooth networking
[20:13:00] fall0ut: But I was wondering if someone out there has already done something else similar
[20:14:00] o_cee: stream music?
[20:14:00] fall0ut: I want to control the mythtv box from the web
[20:14:00] o_cee: yeees, please see my previous answer.
[20:14:00] fall0ut: e.g. when I use mythweb now it just wants me to stream/download the mp3
[20:15:00] o_cee: right, so you want to control _mythmusic_?
[20:15:00] fall0ut: yes
[20:15:00] fall0ut: or hell, just simulate keypresses
[20:15:00] o_cee: and where did you say that in your original question? how do you think anyone could have guessed that?
[20:15:00] fall0ut: I said I don't wnat to stream music
[20:15:00] fall0ut: I want to control the box
[20:16:00] o_cee: "fall0ut So are there any web frontends that let you control mythtv?" but anyway, no. you can't, not if you are looking for stable software.
[20:16:00] o_cee: mfd/mfe does it, but it's not considered stable
[20:16:00] fall0ut: well thats about useless hah
[20:17:00] fall0ut: hrm
[20:17:00] fall0ut: mythmusic is also terribly slow
[20:17:00] fall0ut: with about 4k songs in there
[20:17:00] fall0ut: I have no desire to use mythtv to record or watch TV... just music
[20:18:00] o_cee: then i think you can find better programs, especially if you're not using it on a tv...
[20:18:00] fall0ut: there isn't a whole lot out there
[20:18:00] o_cee: mpd is a headless daemon
[20:18:00] fall0ut: I didn't want headless
[20:18:00] fall0ut: I've got a 17" LCD mounted there with it
[20:19:00] fall0ut: eventually I might use it for watching tv
[20:19:00] o_cee: right. don't have any good suggestion. look at mp3car.com maybe
[20:19:00] o_cee: or whatever they're called
[20:19:00] fall0ut: hrm
[20:19:00] fall0ut: Ok, so assuming I can't remotely control it (yet)
[20:19:00] fall0ut: why is mythmusic so slow?
[20:20:00] o_cee: haven't used it in a while, can't say it was slow when i did though
[20:20:00] TheAsp: its slow?
[20:20:00] fall0ut: moving through the playlist is painfully slow
[20:20:00] o_cee: it's slow building the db, but not after that
[20:20:00] o_cee: reads all id3's and stuff
[20:20:00] fall0ut: yea
[20:20:00] fall0ut: that took about 10mins
[20:20:00] fall0ut: to pull in all 4k songs
[20:20:00] fall0ut: but moving through the songs is slow
[20:21:00] o_cee: shouldn't be
[20:21:00] fall0ut: anywhere to start looking at that?
[20:21:00] o_cee: see if there's any errors
[20:21:00] fall0ut: getting...
[20:21:00] fall0ut: parameter out of range
[20:21:00] fall0ut: qdatetime::fromstring
[20:21:00] fall0ut: thats about it
[20:22:00] fall0ut: the box is more than fast enough (i'd hope)
[20:22:00] o_cee: look at --verbose, maybe that'll show more. other than that, i don't know.
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[20:24:00] fall0ut: granted
[20:24:00] fall0ut: the playlist is like 4k songs
[20:25:00] fall0ut: but it should be faster than that I would think
[20:25:00] xris: mythmusic is horribly slow
[20:25:00] xris: HORRIBLY slow.
[20:26:00] fall0ut: and doesn't compile well on 64bit either
[20:26:00] fall0ut: I wonder if its a GL accel issue with the plugins
[20:26:00] fall0ut: the visualizations anyway
[20:27:00] fall0ut: mythfrontend/xorg is using like 3–4% CPU a piece
[20:27:00] mishehu: mythmusic is a dog.
[20:27:00] mishehu: and that dog should be shot. if I had time and know-how, I'd write a replacement for it.
[20:27:00] mishehu: heh
[20:27:00] TheAsp: oh, i use album cover for my visualization
[20:27:00] TheAsp: :P
[20:28:00] fall0ut: I guess I should have researched this better before I went mythtv :(
[20:28:00] o_cee: mishehu, very easy to say.
[20:29:00] mishehu: o_cee: oh, I know it is. thats why I don't expect anybody to think I'm doing anything other than spewing out an opinion...
[20:29:00] LedHed: if I had the time and know-how I'd make a time machine
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[20:29:00] mishehu: and we all know that opinions are like assholes... we all got them, and they all stink.
[20:29:00] mishehu: heh
[20:30:00] LedHed: I'm not a dog. I dont go around sniffing other peoples buts. nor my own for that matter
[20:30:00] LedHed: but I do have plenty of stinky opinions
[20:30:00] fall0ut: ok, I was right
[20:30:00] fall0ut: nvidia glx problems
[20:30:00] fall0ut: installed the nvidia glx drivers
[20:31:00] fall0ut: and we're golden
[20:31:00] fall0ut: its quick
[20:31:00] fall0ut: even with 4000 songs in the playlist
[20:31:00] o_cee: great :)
[20:31:00] Andrew: hey guys, i was having trouble using lirc native support with myth so i started using irxevent – whats the name i should use to only control myth so i can redefine controls for xine and mplayer?
[20:31:00] LedHed: mishehu: daily showers will fix your funk problem
[20:32:00] fall0ut: so what kind of boxes is everybody running this on?
[20:32:00] TheAsp: andrew: there is none
[20:33:00] TheAsp: andrew: if you dont set it to irxevent, irxevent wont get the signal
[20:33:00] LedHed: athlon 1.8 underclocked to 1.35 nforce2 Mobo, nVidia GF440mx, 256mb ram on all my frontends
[20:33:00] StringBlade: fallout: amd k7 2600+ 512MB RAm 500GB HDD
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[20:33:00] fall0ut: so fairly large machines
[20:33:00] TheAsp: andrew: you can setup some sorta switching system where it sends different keys for different modes
[20:33:00] fall0ut: k
[20:33:00] StringBlade: oh, I'm using NVidia Geforce FX 5500+
[20:33:00] StringBlade: w/ DVI out to tV
[20:33:00] TheAsp: andrew: or get native lirc working
[20:33:00] TheAsp: :P
[20:33:00] riksta: anyone on 2.6.10/11 having bttv errors (IRQ lockups etc?) lately?
[20:34:00] StringBlade: fallout: mine's acting as both a frontend, backend, streaming mp3 server, and webserver
[20:34:00] LedHed: Mobile Athlon XP @ 1500mhz, 512mb ram, nForce2, GF440mx, 800gb RAID 5
[20:34:00] fall0ut: my box is a athlon64 3200+ w/ a gig of ram
[20:34:00] LedHed: on my server
[20:34:00] fall0ut: I just put it together yesterday
[20:34:00] LedHed: overkill
[20:34:00] LedHed: unless you are doing HD
[20:34:00] fall0ut: I'm not doing TV at all
[20:34:00] Andrew: TheAsp, i mean, i specified CurrentWindow as of now, but im saying can't you specify a process instead?
[20:35:00] fall0ut: just music
[20:35:00] fall0ut: its the only motherboard I had layin around
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[20:35:00] LedHed: ah, then WAY OVERKILL
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[20:35:00] fall0ut: whats the fave distro?
[20:35:00] TheAsp: Andrew: thats covered in the man page...
[20:35:00] StringBlade: FC3 here
[20:36:00] fall0ut: I used ubuntu/hoary
[20:36:00] LedHed: I like FC1, but am using FC3 right now. Deb, and Gentoo are also popular
[20:36:00] fall0ut: had it up and running within about 30mins
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[20:36:00] Andrew: TheAsp, of irxevent? becuase i tried just about every combination of myth, mythfrontend, mythtv and the rest and its no dice, only current window works.
[20:36:00] fall0ut: after I loaded the 386 version back on...
[20:36:00] fall0ut: mythmusic doesn't compile on amd64
[20:36:00] fall0ut: :(
[20:36:00] TheAsp: mythfrontend
[20:36:00] TheAsp: should work
[20:37:00] mishehu: fall0ut: what distro you running w/your amd64?
[20:37:00] fall0ut: mishehu: ubuntu
[20:37:00] mishehu: I'm having problems with slamd64
[20:37:00] fall0ut: I was gonna do Ubuntu w/ amd64
[20:37:00] fall0ut: but mythmusic doesnt compile on the arch
[20:37:00] fall0ut: so I went back to i386
[20:37:00] mishehu: but I think the problem might be related the crappy Sil 3114 softraid...
[20:38:00] Andrew: i tried that several times, but i guess im going to be doing it again – for some reason native lirc doesnt want to work with my hardware – it works with irw, but in myth it pauses, flashes hard, then does the command, so it works....but it sure as hell isnt pretty or functional
[20:38:00] TheAsp: isnt myth IN ubuntu? atleast universe
[20:38:00] StringBlade: Andrew: did you compile myth yourself and uncomment the lirc support in the settings.pro?
[20:38:00] fall0ut: TheAsp: yes
[20:38:00] fall0ut: but mythmusic isn't in the amd64
[20:38:00] fall0ut: because it doesn't compile hah
[20:38:00] fall0ut: :)
[20:38:00] TheAsp: oh
[20:38:00] TheAsp: :P
[20:38:00] fall0ut: and seeing that all I want is music
[20:39:00] Andrew: StringBlade, no, i installed from RPM (shortcut probably is a longcut...) do you think compiling myth myself is the way to go?
[20:39:00] StringBlade: Andrew: oh, I've heard of that happening before
[20:39:00] StringBlade: you could try it
[20:39:00] StringBlade: but I don't know of a sure-fire solution for your situation
[20:39:00] Andrew: StringBlade, do you remember what the solution was?
[20:39:00] fall0ut: TV is evil
[20:40:00] StringBlade: Andrew: I never ran across a solution. Did you check the mailing lists for a possible answer?
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[20:40:00] StringBlade: fall0ut: then why play with a PVR project?
[20:40:00] fall0ut: Music
[20:40:00] fall0ut: I want a jukebox with a nice frontend
[20:40:00] StringBlade: there's lots of music-only projects
[20:40:00] fall0ut: nothing that has a decent frontend
[20:40:00] Andrew: StringBlade, I looked for a long time with no avail – and i couldnt post becuase i really don't know how...but irxevent seems to be a substitiution for now...
[20:40:00] fall0ut: plus one day I may do TV
[20:40:00] fall0ut: the mythtvideo stuff is ncie, too
[20:40:00] StringBlade: when it's less evil
[20:41:00] fall0ut: exactly
[20:41:00] StringBlade: Andrew: to post, you have to sign up to the mailing list – myth.org has info in the Documentation on how to do that
[20:42:00] Andrew: StringBlade, for what its worth, if i can get irxevent to send the signal to ONLY myth and not just the current window i'd be more than happy
[20:42:00] StringBlade: I'm tweaking mythvideo on mine a little to play mirrored DVDs from the HD
[20:43:00] fall0ut: this thing is a little nicer than an XBox w/ xbmc
[20:43:00] fall0ut: a lot more flexible anyway
[20:43:00] StringBlade: Andrew: sorry, not familiar enough with irxevent. In my experience it sends the signal to ALL processes that have an action defined for the button
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[20:45:00] fall0ut: ok, so any easy way to control myth from the command line?
[20:45:00] Andrew: StringBlade, do you remember how they described the problem, it might help with my searches
[20:45:00] hadees: irxevent is like you pushing a key on the key board
[20:46:00] Andrew: hadees, right, but i believe you can tell it to only send the key press to a specific window
[20:46:00] hadees: internal lirc support is the way ot go
[20:46:00] Andrew: hadees, if i didnt have a problem getting it working, it would be
[20:46:00] StringBlade: Andrew: they described it as you did
[20:46:00] hadees: Andrew, i think you can do something with window focus but internal support is the way to go
[20:46:00] StringBlade: a hard flash
[20:47:00] hadees: hadees, you have other problems if internal lirc won't work
[20:48:00] hadees: Andrew, does irw work? and have you run lircd in non spawn mode and started mythfrontend?
[20:48:00] Andrew: hadees, irw works like a charm, and running in non-spawn mode? i dont know what you mean, but i have it load as a process
[20:49:00] hadees: man lircd
[20:49:00] hadees: there is a non daemon or non spawn mode
[20:49:00] Andrew: myth responds correctly after it does its flash things
[20:49:00] hadees: its a command line option
[20:49:00] Andrew: hurm – you say i should be running in non-spawn mode? whats the difference?
[20:49:00] hadees: did you put the lircrc file in .mythtv/lircrc
[20:50:00] hadees: Andrew, it will not spawn off and will print information back to the shell window
[20:50:00] hadees: so you can see if the connection is failing
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[20:50:00] hadees: when mythtv trys to connect with it's internal support
[20:51:00] Andrew: hurm, very interesting...i was looking for some sort of output – i'm going to try that tonight – hopefully it'll shed some light on the situation...thanks a bunch
[20:51:00] hadees: what about your lircrc file is it in the right place?
[20:51:00] StringBlade: anyone here ever used mythPhone?
[20:51:00] Andrew: yes, its in the correct place – myth does go ahead and perform the correct command, it just does its little dance beforehand
[20:53:00] hadees: a good idea is also to do a system link between ~/.lirc and ~/.mythtv/lirc
[20:53:00] hadees: oops
[20:53:00] hadees: lircrc
[20:53:00] hadees: not lirc for both of them
[20:53:00] hadees: and that should be to not and
[20:54:00] StringBlade: in other words, .lircrc and .mythtv/lircrc should be different files, not a symlink?
[20:55:00] fall0ut: ok, so running mythtv without a window manager
[20:55:00] fall0ut: when mplayer plays a movie
[20:55:00] fall0ut: you can't quit/exit mplayer
[20:55:00] fall0ut: what window manager should I use then?
[20:55:00] StringBlade: q doesn't quit?
[20:55:00] StringBlade: or esc
[20:55:00] fall0ut: no
[20:55:00] StringBlade: I forget which
[20:55:00] fall0ut: neither does
[20:55:00] StringBlade: what about xine?
[20:55:00] StringBlade: I know q will quit xine
[20:55:00] fall0ut: well
[20:55:00] Beirdo: it's an issue of not having focus
[20:56:00] fall0ut: yea
[20:56:00] StringBlade: gotcha
[20:56:00] StringBlade: kinda thought if that's the only thing running, you'd have focus
[20:56:00] Beirdo: it's not
[20:56:00] Beirdo: mythtv is running and mplayer
[20:56:00] Beirdo: count em... 2.
[20:56:00] StringBlade: wouldn't focus be on mplayer because it was created last
[20:56:00] fall0ut: yea
[20:57:00] Beirdo: with no window manager there's no guarantee what has focus
[20:57:00] StringBlade: meh
[20:57:00] StringBlade: that's why I use one
[20:57:00] fall0ut: so what window manager to use?
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[20:58:00] Semhirage: im running gentoo, and trying to emerge mythtv, do i need mythtv or just mythtv-frontend?
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[20:58:00] Beirdo: fluxbox, blackbox, etc
[21:00:00] fall0ut: k
[21:01:00] fall0ut: now, how to make mythtv read lirc input from a fifo
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[21:01:00] dmorrigan: Afternoon all
[21:01:00] dmorrigan: Is there a way to merge two backend servers into one?
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[21:05:00] LedHed: night all
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[21:13:00] fall0ut: ok, so what tells mythtv where to look for lirc shit
[21:15:00] riksta: thank god, think i've finally fixed my bttv lockup problems
[21:15:00] riksta: and it was something stupid i forgot to check
[21:15:00] riksta: i must have enabled APIC support in my kernel again, stupidly
[21:15:00] riksta: and then forgotten
[21:15:00] riksta: but i'll reserve judgement, till it's been running a while :) (only 10 mins atm :)
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[21:28:00] riksta: GOD DAMN!!!
[21:28:00] riksta: i spoke too soon
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[21:30:00] riksta: it's whenever there is big HDD activity
[21:30:00] riksta: i get
[21:30:00] riksta: bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW RISCI* OCERR*
[21:30:00] riksta: bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d01c,bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR*
[21:30:00] riksta: bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d01c,bits: OFLOW RISCI* OCERR*
[21:30:00] riksta: bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d01c,bits: HSYNC OFLOW RISCI* OCERR*
[21:30:00] riksta: etc
[21:31:00] mchou: riksta: heh, I think you should buy a pvr250 instead :)
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[21:36:00] DIrEctQL: hey, how can I setup commercial removal
[21:36:00] TheAsp: riksta: dma on?
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[21:40:00] DIrEctQL: anyone?
[21:40:00] torrap: i enjoy the mode that is created by leaving a frontend on live tv when shows are scheduled. In this mode the frontend switches to whatever is currently on. Is there a way to get into this "mode" when all tuners are all used ?
[21:42:00] dev-: anyone happen to know if you gotta do anything special other than rolling back qt3.3.3 on gentoo? other than clearing the database and stuff, im doing that ;) (one hour ahead problem)
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[21:42:00] andr3www: yay 4 canada
[21:44:00] Andrew: StringBlade, i have a quick question – if i were to try and compile mythtv – how many dependencies do i have to resolve? im using fc3 and i don't want to waste a day on solving deps
[21:44:00] dev-: first time setting up myth takes a while
[21:44:00] dev-: but its a good learning experience :)
[21:44:00] dev-: after dealing with bad onboard video, took me just about a week :)
[21:45:00] dev-: but i had to learn gentoo too, not just myth heh
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[21:49:00] dmorrigan: On a slave backend do I run mythbackend?
[21:49:00] Beirdo: yes, otherwise it isn't a backend
[21:50:00] dmorrigan: My master is NOT picking up the tuner in it ...
[21:50:00] dmorrigan: I had two machines working independently and thought it would be nice to be able to watch one and record one
[21:51:00] dmorrigan: So I am trying to setup one as a slave backend and one as a master
[21:51:00] dmorrigan: On my master it says one tuner is unavailable
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[21:52:00] dmorrigan: I setup the slave backends tuner in mythtvsetup on the slave. Was that right? The instructions on this are a little confusing
[21:53:00] Beirdo: yes.
[21:53:00] Beirdo: make sure you set the master backend IP correctly
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[21:54:00] dmorrigan: Do I put the masters IP in both spots in mythtvsetup? Or just the backend spot?
[21:54:00] dmorrigan: And is there an order to the startup? Master first or it doesn't matter?
[21:55:00] Beirdo: you need to set the master IP in the master IP spot
[21:55:00] Beirdo: and on the master backend, in the backend IP as well
[21:55:00] Beirdo: the documentation's pretty clear, I thought
[21:55:00] dmorrigan: Ok got the IP correct then
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[21:58:00] dmorrigan: On the slave it's giving a MySQL error saying it cannot connect to the local DB
[21:59:00] dmorrigan: it's = mythbackend
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[21:59:00] Beirdo: then you have your mysql not setup right, likely
[22:00:00] dmorrigan: BRB Let me check again
[22:00:00] dmorrigan: Wait does MySQL need to be running on the slave backend? Someone told me it didn't/
[22:00:00] Beirdo: no
[22:00:00] dmorrigan: Ok BRB then
[22:00:00] Beirdo: it needs to be on one place only
[22:09:00] dmorrigan: Ok. The slave keeps trying to connect to a socket. Is there a config file I missed?
[22:09:00] Beirdo: mysql.txt
[22:09:00] dmorrigan: In /home/mythtv/.mythtv/?
[22:10:00] Beirdo: think so
[22:10:00] dmorrigan: My DBHostName is my master's IP
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[22:15:00] dmorrigan: My masters mysql server is listening on 3306 like it's supposed to. The slave is just not trying to connect to it. It's using the local socket interface.
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[22:20:00] torrap: i enjoy the mode that is created by leaving a frontend on live tv when shows are scheduled. In this mode the frontend switches to whatever is currently on. Is there a way to get into this "mode" when all tuners are all used ?
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[22:21:00] Mrgoose: hello
[22:21:00] Mrgoose: anyone here good at dialog coding
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[22:38:00] vicodan: where can I get the cvs version of myth?
[22:38:00] GreyFoxx: from the cvs server ?:)
[22:39:00] vicodan: heh
[22:39:00] vicodan: yeah what is it?
[22:39:00] GreyFoxx: what is what? cvs ?
[22:40:00] GreyFoxx: If you don't know what cvs is, are you sure you want to run the cvs version of myth ?:)
[22:40:00] vicodan: i know what cvs is
[22:40:00] vicodan: where is the cvs server
[22:40:00] vicodan: better yet...is the cvs version the only version that has the 1-hour bug fixed?
[22:40:00] GreyFoxx: There are docs on mythtv.org that will give you the address
[22:41:00] vicodan: hmm, i checked but couldnt find it
[22:41:00] GreyFoxx: I'm running .17 release and am not affected. IT depends on what version of QT you are running whether or not you are affected
[22:41:00] vicodan: i have the newest qt
[22:41:00] GreyFoxx: but if you are running an affect QT, and don't want to move it back to one that wasn't affected then yes, CVS is the answer
[22:41:00] vicodan: 3.3.4
[22:41:00] dmorrigan: Any suggestions to my mysql issue Beirdo?
[22:41:00] GreyFoxx: That's the version that has the problem
[22:42:00] vicodan: yeh...so my frontend is .16 on an xbox
[22:42:00] vicodan: is putting the backend on cvs gonna mess it up?
[22:43:00] GreyFoxx: possibly, never tried it.
[22:43:00] vicodan: or would downgrading qt be the best?
[22:43:00] GreyFoxx: Can't remember what exactly changed protocol wise
[22:43:00] GreyFoxx: vicodan: It's certainly the easiest option :)
[22:43:00] GreyFoxx: At least for most people, unless you really need that QT version
[22:43:00] vicodan: i dont think i do
[22:44:00] vicodan: any timeframe on the next mythtv official release?
[22:44:00] GreyFoxx: tonight was last I was told
[22:44:00] vicodan: oh serious? rock
[22:44:00] GreyFoxx: but that depended on if Isaac had the time,
[22:45:00] vicodan: well, soon though
[22:45:00] GreyFoxx: otherwise "soon"
[22:45:00] vicodan: yeah
[22:45:00] vicodan: ill just downgrade qt and wait until official release since its soon
[22:45:00] vicodan: thanks for the help
[22:45:00] GreyFoxx: you need to shutdown the backend, clear the program table from mysql
[22:45:00] GreyFoxx: downgrade qt
[22:45:00] GreyFoxx: launch the backend
[22:45:00] GreyFoxx: and rerun mythfilldatabase
[22:45:00] vicodan: there's docs to clear the program table?
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: That's what worked for most people
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: vicodan: not that I'm aware of
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: you need to login to mysql and do it manually.
[22:46:00] vicodan: do you know the sql command?
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: delete from program;
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: or programs
[22:46:00] dmorrigan: GreyFoxx, do you know how to setup a slave backend?
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: can't remeber if it has an s or not :)
[22:46:00] vicodan: GreyFoxx: heh ok
[22:47:00] GreyFoxx: dmorrigan: I've never tried, but I'm 99% sure I saw it in the mythtv.org docs
[22:47:00] dmorrigan: I tried following that and it's not working
[22:47:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.ht . . . ckend_config
[22:47:00] GreyFoxx: ahh
[22:47:00] GreyFoxx: I've not had reason to try it personally
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[22:59:00] defaultro: anyone around who's using firewire?
[22:59:00] defaultro: for hd capture :)
[23:11:00] vicodan: GreyFoxx: awesome, its fixed now
[23:11:00] vicodan: GreyFoxx: thanks
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[23:13:00] daved: my mythtv is trying to do a db upgrade it has already done
[23:13:00] dmorrigan: On my slave server I am getting: Unknown encoder: 7
[23:13:00] daved: how can i make it stop trying?
[23:13:00] dmorrigan: Anyone know what is causing that?
[23:15:00] daved: if anyone knows, please tell me.. my backend is down
[23:16:00] Captain_Murdoch_: doesn't sound like current CVS and that has been answered a few times on the mailing list, so you might search there for detailed instructions.
[23:16:00] Captain_Murdoch_: ^^^ that was to daved.
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[23:22:00] dmorrigan: Ok got it figured out.
[23:23:00] dmorrigan: I have 3 tuners available now ;-P
[23:23:00] fith: slightly off topic... are the Sony Grand Wega's any good? Any other screens I should look that are comparable? (~43")
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[23:28:00] StringBlade: dmorrigan: so what did you do?
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[23:37:00] Zugot: what is the difference between a pvr150 and a pvr250?
[23:38:00] NemLappy^: still 100
[23:38:00] NemLappy^: :-)
[23:40:00] Cromz: I was gonna say that!
[23:40:00] Cromz: heh
[23:40:00] NemLappy^: Ah ... it was a follow on from the question being asked in the devs channel
[23:41:00] NemLappy^: TBH .. I always think google when people ask stuff like that .. maybe I'm just unkind
[23:41:00] NemLappy^: :-)
[23:44:00] Cromz: my wife said the same thing.. why not google it.
[23:44:00] Cromz: I trianed her well :>
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[23:50:00] quink: no .18?
[23:55:00] Zugot: ah...

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