Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, December 25th, 2009, 00:03 AST

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squish102:

what is a resonable number of times i can split a cable connection without boosting it?

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squish102:

and what do you call those boosters? any good cheap places to buy them in the US?

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jams:

amp, and depending on the incoming signal and the splitter itself 3 is a good number

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squish102:

thanks jams, i think i have 5 splitters in at the moment :(

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squish102:

(1 -> 2) 4 of those and a (1 -> 4) 1 of those

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squish102:

(now that i had to put a HDhomerun in, i had to throw in 2 more splitters

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J-e-f-f-A:

Humm... Well, Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays folks... ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Got all my systems up on 0.22, then installed some FC11 updates to one of my systems, and now it hangs at the X load screen with just the mouse cursor and 'background busy' pointer indefinetly... The last message in dmesg is "eth0: no IPv6 routers present" – ssh & console shells work... I'm kinda lost what else to look at...

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J-e-f-f-A:

fstab mounts happen... strange...

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sphery:

squish102: 3 splits doesn't mean 3 splitters--it means 1 input and 3 outputs on 1 splitter :)

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sphery:

but if you don't see issues with the signal, it may be good enough

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iamlindoro:

though few cable signals will put up with 8 passive splits

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iamlindoro:

and actually... looks liek 12 for you, yikes

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iamlindoro:

whether you are getting corruption on playback or not (I suspect you probably are), it's a safe bet that some part of that signal is getting corrupted

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clever:

J-e-f-f-A: ps -eH x

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J-e-f-f-A:

clever: Maybe you'll see something... ;-) http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1726512

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J-e-f-f-A:

clever: nothing's consuming CPU time...

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** J-e-f-f-A 's Google usage seems to be an epic fail for this too... **

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J-e-f-f-A:

Ah, it was autologin stuff in /etc/gdm/custom.conf — it worked BEFORE the updates... but hung my system at gdm startup after... yikes.

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jblack:

i don't suppose there's a menu somewhere in which the frontend reports it's ip?

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J-e-f-f-A:

jblack: I don't think so, but "ifconfig" in a shell will show it... why?

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jblack:

because I"m looking for the front end so that I can ssh to it. :)

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jblack:

I found where it plopped down on dhcp. Yay arp

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J-e-f-f-A:

jblack: ssh by name? ;-)

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** J-e-f-f-A just gives his frontends Static IPs... ;-) **

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jblack:

I bet you also give your frontends ethernet cards

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jblack:

and processors, and memory and actual hard drives. :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

jblack: Ethernet cards? Not anymore... on-board ethernet dude! ;-) (gig even!)

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jblack:

fine. ethernet cables.

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** J-e-f-f-A laughs. ;-) **

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jblack:

my main frontend is a teensy little eeepc with a 4 gig flash drive and.. I dont' remember.. maybe all of 512 megs of ram, if that.

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jblack:

oh cool. lirc broke

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J-e-f-f-A:

jblack: if you just put on 0.22 – you may need to change it to use /dev/lircd like I had to use... ;-)

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jblack:

or I just need to reinstall lirc after accidentally uninstalling it. =D

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oobe:

ln -s /var/run/lirc/lircd /dev/lircd

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oobe:

is what i do

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oobe:

i cant verify the paths will work for you as ur system/s may be different

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jblack:

Nah. I just needed to fix an unintentional uninstall with an intetional reinstall. =)

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oobe:

oh lol

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jblack:

I finally got around to fixing my missing osd font problem and unintetionally removed lirc.

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jblack:

fonts with letters are so cool. ;)

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jblack:

I think one of my tv stations changed transponders or something, because I'm getting 0% signal.

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jblack:

is that possible?

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[R]:

anything is possible

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jblack:

Yeah. I think they changed frequencies.

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jblack:

I think they did it because they don't like me. I think they want to make me sad

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oobe:

merry xmas to all

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** wagnerrp wonders how long it will take to fill an external 2TB drive **

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[R]:

100mbit/s is so slow

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wagnerrp:

sure, but i can pull 60+MB/s over gigabit/samba

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[R]:

i want to resize my myth data partition

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[R]:

but i want to back it up just incase i screw it up

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wagnerrp:

bah... 1:01AM and the bag of crap is already sold out

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[R]:

lol

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[R]:

my sister got one once

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wagnerrp:

really... anything good?

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wagnerrp:

so i plug the drive in and whats the first thing i do?

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wagnerrp:

break windows by trying to copy something with a cyclic symlink

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wagnerrp:

why there was such a thing? i dont know, i didnt put it there

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[R]:

i dont know what she got

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[R]:

i'm 90% done with my myth

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[R]:

got my new backend tucked away nicely

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[R]:

got WOL and wake on RTC working

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wagnerrp:

50min for the 115GB ive got locally

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wagnerrp:

ill probably stop by work this weekend, connect the drive, and hit 'copy'

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wagnerrp:

ive got some 1.5TB i want to archive off the array there

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crankharder:

is there a keybinding Page up and page down for lirc? i've tried "PageUp", "PgUp" as the config, and no luck

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[R]:

crankharder: in the "Edit Keys" it'll tell you what the keybinding is for those... then you set that in your lirc config

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den0ts_:

anyone awake?

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den0ts_:

i got my livetv working

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den0ts_:

i had some vsync option checked

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den0ts_:

now it plays, but it looks like the video is up higher in the screen, and the bottom part is the distorted

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den0ts_:

one sec i took a screen

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den0ts_:

http://hebs.doesntexist.org/mythtv2.jpg

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den0ts_:

woops

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den0ts_:

http://hebs.doesntexist.org/images/mythtv2.jpg

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den0ts_:

shit that didnt work either did it

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den0ts_:

http://hebs.doesntexist.org/images/mythtv2.png

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cesman:

looks almost like an issue w/ the source

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den0ts_:

ok wait i fixed it

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den0ts_:

i hit M in live tv

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den0ts_:

and did manual zoom

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den0ts_:

then hit the down arrow till it moved it down

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den0ts_:

but the setting doesnt stick if I hit esc and then go back to livetv

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den0ts_:

ok nevermind

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den0ts_:

fixed it

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galen:

i've found that ffmpeg-mt degrades quality as compared to ffmpeg; do people see a quality difference between ffmpeg software h.264 decoding and vdpau decoding?

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[R]:

well what doese ffmpeg regular vs ffmpeg-mt look like

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antgel:

gbee: indeed. sorry for being a bit thick

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antgel:

right, i've painstakingly tried to get my ITV HD up and running with:

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antgel:

UPDATE channel SET channum = 10510 WHERE chanid = 66440;

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antgel:

UPDATE channel SET mplexid = 21 WHERE chanid = 66440;

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antgel:

UPDATE channel SET serviceid = 10510 WHERE chanid = 66440;

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antgel:

as far as i can see, that puts it in line with gbee's database at http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1711197

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antgel:

so i browse to the channel, and i get:

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antgel:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1726699

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antgel:

that's in the backend log

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mchou:

antgel: umm, why are you doing it that way?

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antgel:

mchou: hey. http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7546 means it's not possible to scan the channel at the moment

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mchou:

dude, I know it's not possible

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antgel:

mchou: but it still exists, so i thought getting my database tables in line would be the way to receive it

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mchou:

but what's the point on relying on somebody else's db?

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mchou:

you'd be much better off using dvb scan yourself

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antgel:

mchou: it's the same channel, i don't see why it shouldn't work

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mchou:

umm, scan that comes with dvbutils or whatever it's called

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antgel:

mchou: i already have the correct entry in dvb_multiplex (i reckon), i thought it was just a case of linking that to the correct entry in the channel table

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mchou:

it wouldnt work cause his data in dtv_multiplex is most likely different from yours

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mchou:

it's not a matter of the correct "entry"

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antgel:

mchou: ah. he did suggest (last night) that tuning data might be slightly out for different users

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mchou:

you need to make sure the whole row is consistent

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antgel:

i chose mplexid = 21 on the basis that it had the same transport id (2315).

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mchou:

that's what you get when relying on somebody else

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antgel:

can i not rely on transportid as the correct identifier here?

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mchou:

no real way to fish for yourself

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mchou:

use dvb scan

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mchou:

it's infallible

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mchou:

plus you'd UNDERSTAND what you're doing instead of blindly copying someone else

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antgel:

mchou: i'll do a scan with dvb scan for sure, just to clarify, are you telling me that i'll most likely need to add an entry to dvb_multiplex?

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antgel:

mchou: i try to understand, it wasn't a total blind copy, but there is a fairly steep learning curve with DVB

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mchou:

antgel: I dont live in the UK. but chances are the entries in somebody elese's dtv_mplex is different from yours

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mchou:

i.e. cardinality, etc

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mchou:

you link to the wrong one all bets are off

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antgel:

i perhaps naively thought that since it was DVB-S and we're pointing at the same satellite, it would be fairly straightforward

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antgel:

let's see what scan outputs, not forgetting that ITV HD is doing some munging somewhere to avoid detection

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mchou:

dude, if you're so sure it's the same for both of you then you need to copy both his chnnal and dtv_mplex tables

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mchou:

not individual rows

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mchou:

channel*

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antgel:

but why should i care about rows in the table that aren't related to the "problem child"?

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mchou:

sigh...

[09:15:21]

mchou:

because it's freaking indexed DIFFERENTLY

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mchou:

wtf

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mchou:

it reallty doesnt get any simpler than this

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antgel:

yes, but i know how to look up a primary key based on the criteria i need

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mchou:

lol

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mchou:

then you shouldnt be having this problem and blathering about it here then, woukld you?

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antgel:

e.g. it's mplexid 62 on his, but 21 on mine

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antgel:

mchou: apparently i would and i am. i could be wrong, but i think you've assumed that i'm thicker than i actually am

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mchou:

I haven't assumed anything other than you did a "copy"

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mchou:

like you said, 61 mapped to 21

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antgel:

mchou: when did i say i did a "copy"?

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mchou:

cause you linked someone else's row

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antgel:

no, i linked my row, with the same transportid (2315) as i know that's the correct transport for ITV HD

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mchou:

oh for goodnesses sakes

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mchou:

you linked you row to somebody eleses'd row... that somehow is no longer "copying"?

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mchou:

your*

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antgel:

i didn't link it to somebody else's row. i had the row in my database from my original transport scan. i never added any row manually to the dtv_multiplex table

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mchou:

dude, if you really want to know what's going on and be able to verify it use dvb scan

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antgel:

right, i'll try, thanks

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mchou:

lol

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mchou:

and since the myth tv scan is broken, how did you get the original transports?

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antgel:

the mythtv scan isn't broken, at least not on my DVB-S and DVB-T backends

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mchou:

hmm?

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antgel:

the mythtv scan isn't broken

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mchou:

Then I dont get it

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mchou:

if it's not broken why isnt it picking up your channel?

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antgel:

did you read the bug report or what i said ^^ about ITV HD munging stuff to avoid detection?

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mchou:

I read you bug report

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antgel:

with the greatest respect, if you don't understand the precise situation, it might be best not to go on a generic rant

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mchou:

you dont exactly say how ITV is avoiding detection

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antgel:

well, i don't know how. apparently some devs might know. or they might not. but the fact remains that once myth is tuned properly, it can pick up the channel

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mchou:

dude

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antgel:

the channel is a "special case", they don't want to be manually tuned in by users of Sky set-top boxes, they only want to be available via Freesat and the red button

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mchou:

my point if your so called bug report is vague, and cant be substantiated even by yourself

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mchou:

you've made some allegations that you can't back up one way or another

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antgel:

"Changed 3 weeks ago by stuartm" ... "We know what the bug is."

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mchou:

right, he said "bug" he didnt say ITV was engaged in obfuscation

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mchou:

you see the difference?

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antgel:

but that has been established by discussions here and on #m. next question?

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mchou:

lol

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mchou:

no. the mythtv scan has been broken for a long time

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mchou:

it's not because some channel engaged in avoiding detection

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antgel:

but you don't know anything about the ITV HD-specific issue

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mchou:

I know enough that it can be tuned

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mchou:

therefore they aren't doing anything extraordinary

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mchou:

they don't violate physical laws of the universe or causality in some fashion

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antgel:

i'll rephrase:

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antgel:

but you don't know *enough* about the ITV HD-specific issue

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mchou:

dude, I'll rephrase for you. It's much more likely mythtv scanner missed it because scanner logic was broken rather than ITV doing some nefarious

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mchou:

ESPECIALLY since ITV can still be tuned

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mchou:

you jumped to some far fetched conclusion

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antgel:

i hear that. but it goes against all previous discussions on the matter

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antgel:

i didn't jump to that conclusion, it's what i was told on here and #m by people who know more than me

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mchou:

right

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mchou:

cough cough

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mchou:

dvb scan has been infallible. unless dvb scan doesn't detect it, stop complaining ITV is going out of their way

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antgel:

let's see what scan outputs, i'll leave it running while i jump in this bath

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antgel:

mchou: didn't appear in scan output. however have realised that i had my polarity wrong compared to gbee. so inserted row into dvb_multiplex, and linked that to channel table. this time i get 'irrecoverable recorder error'

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antgel:

at least i have some backend errors that i might be able to work with

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antgel:

DTVMux, Error: Invalid S2 modulation system parameter '1', aborting.

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antgel:

ah, sourceid is all wrong for starters *slaps head*

[10:06:13]

antgel:

same error

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mchou:

sigh

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antgel:

mod_sys was wrong as well, should have been DVB-S. i'm getting there

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antgel:

AND WE'RE IN :-D

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antgel:

that's interesting. BBC HD is smooth as a baby's arse, but ITV HD is a bit jerky. i'll have to try with -v playback. but can't stop the frontend while the parents are watching the queen's speech *sigh*

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Hoxzer:

hmm, would be pretty cool to have a mythfrontend for nokia n900

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oobe:

antgel, if possible you should try VDPAU if you arnt using it already

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oobe:

Hoxzer, i think you could stream video through mythweb on your nokia

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antgel:

oobe: already using VDPAU

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oobe:

oh well maybe experimenting with deinterlacers will help

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Hoxzer:

oobe: Yeah, but it isn't possible to rewind that stream

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oobe:

why not it should still be in the livetv recording group

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oobe:

oh sorry

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oobe:

you were talking about somthing else

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Hoxzer:

because n900 runs pretty much full blown linux I wouldn't be suprised if one could compile mythfrontend for it and then tunnel the database connection through ssh.

[11:32:08]

Hoxzer:

there still might be problems with bandwith

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Hoxzer:

or video resolution (n900 screen is 800x400)

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oobe:

it wouldnt need ssh if it can connect to the same network

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oobe:

but i dont know if it could

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oobe:

sounds like a cool idea

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shix:

hi, does scanning work for analog tv cards?

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CShadowRun:

Is there any way to fix FreeSat scrambled channel numbers?

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CShadowRun:

Besides go through all 330 manually?

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CShadowRun:

also schedule information would be nice :P

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jblack:

I wish they'd stop cancelling shows I love and stop keeping crap I hate.

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jblack:

Here's the rule to tv production... if jblack hates it, give it a good 30 seasons. if jblack loves it, cancel it after season 2.

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defaultro:

good afternoon folks. What key in keyboard should I press to stop music in MythMusic?

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defaultro:

ignore folks, found it, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythMusic

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shix:

hi, is there any way to convert tvtime's stationlist.xml so that mythtv can use it?

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tzanger:

actually this might be a good channel to ask in... plasma or lcd above a fireplace in a living room with a big window? it'll be doing mythgallery most of the time

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darkfrog:

I thought all my recordings were getting screwed up while recording on my mythbox but just figured out it's the playback that is messing up. It says that the video is HD1080, and though it was recorded through my HD-PVR, the channel is not HD and the audio/video is pausing on playback. I can watch it from another machine and it's fine though. I can also watch videos and it's fine...it seems to have been caused by something in the

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iamlindoro:

The HD-PVR records the output of your set top box-- so if your set top box is putting out 1080i full time (as many will by default) then all your recordings with the HD-PVR will be 1080i

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iamlindoro:

and it's likely stuttering because the machine doesn't have the power to decode/deinterlace the recording

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darkfrog:

iamlindoro: but that's what's weird...I have videos that are HD I can watch that work just fine....and it never used to have problems before...and it's a dual-core 64-bit system with 2gig of memory

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darkfrog:

...and my video player is the internal player

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iamlindoro:

darkfrog, "HD" is a totally abstract term, the HD-PVR puts out content that is many times more difficult to play back than anything you can download, and any MPEG-2 HD

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iamlindoro:

And dual core doesn't help you in the slightest with HD-PVR material

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darkfrog:

the videos are H.264

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iamlindoro:

doesn't matter

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iamlindoro:

HD-PVR puts out H.264 *single sliced*, which means only the raw clock speed of a single core is relevant

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darkfrog:

but why would this just start happening when it had been working fine?

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iamlindoro:

because you either changed the bitrate, changed set top box settings, stopped using VDPAU, changed deitnerlacers... any number of things

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darkfrog:

VDPAU?

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iamlindoro:

google

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darkfrog:

enabled VDPAU and now when I go to watch recordings it says "Starting Video" and just stays there

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darkfrog:

can't even exit without killing the process

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iamlindoro:

well you can't enable VDPAU unless your card and rviers support it...

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iamlindoro:

er drivers

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iamlindoro:

s/can't/shouldn't/

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darkfrog:

oh...well, I guess that explains that. :)

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iamlindoro:

it's almost certain (unless your CPU is > 3.0 Ghz per core and very recent) that your CPU cannot handle high bitrate HD-PVR output at full bitrate with complicated deinterlacers

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iamlindoro:

so you can start by trying turning of deinterlace and see if it helps... and if it doesn't, reduce the recording bitate

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darkfrog:

deinterlacing where?

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iamlindoro:

playback profiles

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darkfrog:

thanks

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darkfrog:

iamlindoro: ....I can't find a deinterlacing setting in Playback Profiles

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maccco:

hi all, since I upgraded to 0.22 all programs long description are trimmed very short. They are full lenght in the database anyway. How do I show them full size?

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iamlindoro:

darkfrog, Because you're not editing them

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iamlindoro:

maccco, That's dependent on theme... if you want to modify text sizes or spacings, you need to write or edit a theme

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maccco:

iamlindoro: but it's very very short. Whe did the teme clip it so much?

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iamlindoro:

no idea what in particular you are looking at, but presumably the theme author felt that if showed enough of their description

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maccco:

I mean the long description where you read the plot... it's trimmed to about 10 chars

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iamlindoro:

The plot appears in probably three dozen places

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maccco:

so do you think it's a wrong xmltv input?

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iamlindoro:

doubtful

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iamlindoro:

Again, it's likely a theming decision, and will vary per-theme, per screen, etc.

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maccco:

because it's strange, it happens also with old themes that were in 0.21 too

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maccco:

but in 0.21 showed up well

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iamlindoro:

None of the themes that were in .21 were forward ported

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iamlindoro:

all of the "old" themes in .22 are not their old selves

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maccco:

i see

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iamlindoro:

they are just the menus from the old ones, and fall back to the default for all other screens

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maccco:

i thought mythcenter theme was f-ported

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iamlindoro:

nope

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maccco:

anyway, can you read some program description in your ui?

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maccco:

i really can't

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iamlindoro:

maccco, once again, you are being very imprecise

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iamlindoro:

the description appears in *dozens* of places

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iamlindoro:

and again, will vary per-theme

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iamlindoro:

so you need to either provide precise information or a screenshot

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maccco:

wait a min i check

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maccco:

now I understand what did you mean

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maccco:

it's the same in the program guide and when watching livetv

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iamlindoro:

maccco, you are killing me

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iamlindoro:

varies PER THEME

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maccco:

sorry, don't want to kill in Christmas day :)

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iamlindoro:

please just take a screenshot, as it would be less frustrating

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maccco:

k

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maccco:

http://picander.dyndns.org/shot.jpg

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maccco:

iamlindoro: did you see?

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syamajala:

whats a good pci express tuner for analog signals?

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maccco:

i have a pci, don't know about pci express

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maccco:

iamlindoro: it happens in the same ways with the temes mythbuntu, mythcenter, terra. It happens also in my laptop which connects as a frontend

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syamajala:

i have a pci one too, but my system only has 1 pci slot

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syamajala:

it has 3 pcie slots though, 2 1x and 1 16x

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maccco:

anyone else can help me?

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maccco:

:(

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syamajala:

maybe i should look into usb

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gizmobay:

To use fanart and mythvideos across multiple frontends, do I have to setup storage groups vs locally on the BE?

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[R]:

or you can use nfs shares

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[R]:

but you make it sound like using storage groups is such a hard thing to do

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gizmobay:

I have'em locally and on my remote FE it crashes when trying to view vids

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gizmobay:

The only reason I don't want to do is because I'll have to move everything over

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[R]:

it crashes as in segfault? what does the log say

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[R]:

its not crashing because its local vs storage group

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gizmobay:

Recorded shows no problem, just vids

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gizmobay:

not much in the logs

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gizmobay:

need to run -v error

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gizmobay:

-v important that is

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gizmobay:

didn't say much

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[R]:

so what happen

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[R]:

s

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gizmobay:

I hit Videos and then it just flashes no videos found and then seg faults

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[R]:

so file a bug report

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gizmobay:

could be my setup

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[R]:

it should never segfault...

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gizmobay:

i see makes sense

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gizmobay:

Wonder if changeset 22985 fixes the problem

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gizmobay:

I'm at 22594

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gizmobay:

Just added the daily build repo. Didn't fix the segfault

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antgel:

BBC HD subtitles (dis)appear mostly off the right of the screen – anyone familiar with this issue, or should i raise a new bug report?

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[R]:

i can set a recording and then watch it... but if i try to watch livetv it craps itself

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bllz:

Hi: the sound during playback of recorded programs has a very annoying "hissing" static-like sound... I don't get this for any videos on mythvideo or music, or even liveTV. What could be the cause of this?

[18:32:46]

bllz:

i'm on version .22, btw

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shix:

is there any way of using an analog card with mythtv?

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[R]:

did you read any of the documentation?

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[R]:

cuz i'm assuming you didnt'

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shix:

you are assuming wrong, i went over it again and again, wiki, browsing online

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shix:

this is not the first time i'm here btw

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mzb:

shix, "framegrabber" cards are commonly used

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shix:

this is the third time :-)

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[R]:

then why would you assume they didnt' work?

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shix:

because i simply can't get it to "search channels"

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shix:

it works perfectly in tvtime

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shix:

but the search is disabled in mythtv

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ctmjr:

shix: your on 22

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shix:

yes i am

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mzb:

ensure you've got the correct tuner type selected in mythtv-setup

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shix:

i presume it's ok, not much to change

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ctmjr:

shix: they took out analog channel scan

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shix:

permissions are a+rw on /dev/video

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shix:

ctmjr, i read that

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shix:

ctmjr, i was wondering in fact if you can switch the .xml generated by tvtime to mythtv

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shix:

or some ways of entering frequencies manually

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[R]:

what kind of analog are we talking about

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[R]:

NTSC?

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sid3windr:

huh

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sid3windr:

seriously?

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sid3windr:

no analog scan?

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shix:

no pal bg .. ideally d

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shix:

but it can work on pal bg

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sid3windr:

mzb, also, framegrabber and analog are far from the same :)

[19:15:03]

shix:

again, card wise... everything is fine, tvtime searches, finds... no problem

[19:15:04]

bllz:

Anybody know what can cause hissing in a recording?

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sid3windr:

crappy tuner card, bllz ?

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shix:

it's an avermedia tvphone card type 6 tuner type 5

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bllz:

original question: Hi: the sound during playback of recorded programs has a very annoying "hissing" static-like sound... I don't get this for any videos on mythvideo or music, or even liveTV. What could be the cause of this?

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bllz:

sid3windr: yeah but it's only on recording playback

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sid3windr:

and not on...?

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sid3windr:

ah

[19:15:56]

sid3windr:

huh

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sid3windr:

livetv is ok?

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sid3windr:

:|

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bllz:

sid3windr: not on livetv playback... which makes me think that its a transcoder issue

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bllz:

sid3windr: is there a way to check if something ahs been trasncoded yet?

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sid3windr:

no clue :/

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bllz:

hmm...

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bllz:

strange because now I have a recording that's not having that problem... i wonder if it's been transcoded yet

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shix:

so, no way to scan analog?

[19:17:35]

shix:

perhaps svn... contains some more updates?

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bllz:

shix: you can scan analog

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sid3windr:

I would be very surprised if that were removed

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shix:

bllz, how? :-S the button is disabled?

[19:19:00]

bllz:

shix: then maybe your card isn't supported? I'm not sure... I know that with my pvr150 i could scan analog

[19:19:23]

shix:

hmm, it's one of those classic bttv cards...

[19:19:34]

shix:

thing is, i remember it was perfectly supported a year ago or so

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bllz:

shix: hmm... i really don't know what to tell you. I'm really not a mythtv expert

[19:20:22]

bllz:

other than it *should* be possible

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bllz:

maybe you can file a bug report?

[19:20:30]

iamlindoro:

analog scan is disabled in .22

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iamlindoro:

so no

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bllz:

well there you go

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sid3windr:

:[

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bllz:

iamlindoro: why is that, btw?

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iamlindoro:

Because no analog scanner has been written for the new scanner yet

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bllz:

iamlindoro: fair enough =)

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shix:

hmm, so svn is a dead end too?

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iamlindoro:

it's not a dead end, but it won't give you analog channel scan

[19:22:05]

shix:

0.21?

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iamlindoro:

.21 is before the channel scanner rewrite, so yes, you could scan with it

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shix:

ah great :-) thank you

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bllz:

so if that hiss is the result of the transcoder, do you guys think that setting the transcoders to "lossless" will fix it?

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[R]:

wtf, why does mythweb hate me... i have remote control turned on... i check the db... yet mythwebs till claims there are no frontends to control

[19:25:34]

shix:

anyways thanks for the help peeps

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shix:

and [R] perhaps you should keep your smug attitude to yourself in the future, just a notch... have fun

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bllz:

lol shix.... umad?

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[R]:

lol

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bllz:

[R], I can't tell if he was kidding or not

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[R]:

my stupid backend keeps decide to turn off

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[R]:

even though my frontend is very much running

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bllz:

so nobody knows how to check if a recording has been transcoded yet?

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bllz:

!XvMC

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sid3windr:

haha [R], looks like he still held it against you that you thought he didn't read the docs ;)

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cesman:

bllz: you can find job details under System Info

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bllz:

cesman: for a specific recording? i must have missed it...

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bllz:

sid3windr: as they say ... lolhemad

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bllz:

cesman: i don't see that anywhere...

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bllz:

hey for some reason i can't get a dvd to play... when i insert it and go to the "optical disks' menu and select "play dvd" I get a dialogue promting me for the dvd drive to play from (I have 2), but when I press select it goes back to the main menu

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bllz:

any thoughts?

[19:55:36]

bllz:

i ahve libdvdcss2 installed (ubuntu system)

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[R]:

bllz: what does the lgo say

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bllz:

[R]: sorry, lgo?

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[R]:

log...

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bllz:

oh lol. which one?

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[R]:

the frontend log...

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bllz:

(sorry, i'm not much of a power user... still learning)

[19:58:17]

bllz:

ah okay hang on...

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bllz:

[R]: where is that usually located?

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[R]:

on the output from mythfrontend

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[R]:

or wherever you told it to go when you started the frontend

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bllz:

uhh... let me check the log gabber. one sec

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bllz:

[R]: I think I found an error... let me pastebin it

[20:03:01]

bllz:

[R]: here it is: http://pastebin.com/m1f872dea

[20:04:54]

bllz:

not sure what to make of it...

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[R]:

you have no /dev/dvd

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[R]:

you need to figure out what /dev your dvd is

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bllz:

clearly

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[R]:

and properly configure the mythdvd

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bllz:

hmm i have a /dev/cdrom and a dev/cdrom1

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[R]:

then use that

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bllz:

okay, where would I find the mythdvd configuration? I assume that's in the frontend?

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[R]:

very good assumption

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bllz:

Location of DVD device... that sounds like the one =)

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bllz:

thanks

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bllz:

now is it okay to make the DVD device and VCD device the same?

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bllz:

i ask because I have 2 optical drives, one of which is purelya cdrom...

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[R]:

are you going to be playing VCDs?

[20:09:17]

bllz:

this is a good point...

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bllz:

[R]: either way it shouldn't interfere with audio cds, correct?

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bllz:

which i will probably be ripping

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[R]:

why would it interfere with anything

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bllz:

I don't know... I just renamed a device

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bllz:

well not exactly

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bllz:

i pointed the default dvd path to another device... i don't know if that's the kind of thing that will mess up other plugins or not

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[R]:

you changed a setting in mythdvde

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[R]:

mythdvd*

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[R]:

that's all

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bllz:

hmm it's still nto working... it just takes me to the 8th page of general settings when i select "play dvd"

[20:14:21]

bllz:

back to the logs...

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bllz:

hmm now i'm getting this: libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access

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bllz:

libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdrom with libdvdcss.

[20:16:55]

bllz:

libdvdread: Can't open /dev/cdrom for reading

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bllz:

libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version svnR1169

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bllz:

libdvdnav: vm: failed to open/read the DVD

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bllz:

libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access

[20:16:57]

bllz:

libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdrom with libdvdcss.

[20:16:59]

bllz:

libdvdread: Can't open /dev/cdrom for reading

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ctmjr:

bllz: what distro are you using?

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bllz:

ctmjr: mythbuntu

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bllz:

sorry ab the flood, btw... didn't stop and think there

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bllz:

ah wait I fixed it

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ctmjr:

it should be /media/cdrom /media/cdrom0

[20:18:50]

bllz:

for whatever reason I got the devices mixed up

[20:19:14]

bllz:

ctmjr: i actually have /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1 for whatever reason...

[20:19:21]

bllz:

oh. oh wait

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bllz:

ctmjr: lol at my stupidity. yeah there's cdrom and cdrom0. by default it had /dev/dvd as the default dvd player in mythvideo. I canged it to /dev/cdrom1 and it works... any reason why I should change it to /media/cdrom?

[20:20:40]

sid3windr:

isn't /media/cdrom a mountpoint?

[20:20:43]

sid3windr:

instead of a device name?

[20:20:47]

bllz:

it is, yes

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sid3windr:

I don't think you're supposed to put mountpoints there :)

[20:20:59]

bllz:

hmm now i have stuttery playback

[20:21:13]

bllz:

lol and double playback ... how weird

[20:22:12]

bllz:

sid3windr; so devices go there, not mountpoints

[20:23:12]

sid3windr:

afaik yes :)

[20:23:53]

bllz:

this is strange though... the frontend prompt lists the devices as /dev/scd0 and /dev/ sc1, respectively

[20:24:49]

sid3windr:

cdrom* are symlinks to scd* no doubt

[20:25:41]

bllz:

fair enough

[20:25:56]

bllz:

so why the stuttery playback inintially?

[20:26:05]

bllz:

this is weird... especially since it seems to resove itself

[20:26:23]

bllz:

and the split screen...

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sid3windr:

no clue :)

[20:29:19]

bllz:

.22 seems to ahve a couple of rough edges lol

[20:29:34]

bllz:

but i guess that's to be expected when you have a lot of major changes in a release...

[20:30:14]

bllz:

I just tried with a different disk and there doesn't seem to be a problem, anyway... oh well. at least it resolves itself

[20:31:51]

bllz:

ooof... stuttery playback is stuttery at times. Is there any way to improve dvd playback performance?

[20:32:33]

[R]:

what kind of system do you have

[20:32:45]

[R]:

and what playbkac profile are you using

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[R]:

and is the disc damaged?

[20:33:05]

bllz:

[R]: I don't think the disk is dammaged... it's a dual core processor... 2.1 ghz i think

[20:33:13]

bllz:

let me check the playback profile real quick

[20:33:56]

bllz:

[R]: remind me where the playback profiles are located?

[20:34:10]

[R]:

in the frontend settings...

[20:34:13]

** [R] thinks someone needs to read the docs **

[20:34:34]

** bllz meant more specifically **

[20:35:27]

bllz:

it's unfair to assume I didn't read the dox when I simply can't remember specifically where the playback profile settings were located and decided to ask on the offchance that somebody knew

[20:36:03]

bllz:

[R] I have the ones under TV settings... but those wouldn't apply to dvds would they?

[20:36:11]

[R]:

they do

[20:36:20]

bllz:

oh okay

[20:36:26]

bllz:

well i have the CPU ++ profile selected

[20:36:38]

bllz:

maybe this calls for a less hungry profile

[20:37:29]

[R]:

use slim

[20:37:52]

bllz:

okay

[20:37:57]

bllz:

why slim, btw?

[20:38:05]

bllz:

as opposed to some of the other ones?

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[R]:

why is the sky blue?

[20:39:00]

bllz:

I (perhaps stupidly) assumed there was a reasoning behind the advice

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[R]:

because hats the one i todl yo uto pick?

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bllz:

I ask because I have an nvidia card and I thought that it was generally advisable to use the XvMC and VDPAU settings

[20:39:57]

bllz:

but let's see how slim does real quick

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[R]:

if you need xvmc or vdpau to play a dvd

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[R]:

you've got serious issues

[20:40:49]

bllz:

true

[20:41:05]

bllz:

although it would be nice to offload stuff to the GPU

[20:41:24]

[R]:

it would be nice for money to fall from the sky

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bllz:

haha indeed it would

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[R]:

but if you need xvmc or vdpau to play a dvd... you've got issues

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bllz:

vdpau and xvmc essentially accomplish the same tihng, correct?

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[R]:

no

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bllz:

oh...

[20:45:20]

** bllz goes back to the wiki... **

[20:46:20]

bllz:

[R]: what exactly is the difference... is vdpau only for high def?

[20:46:43]

bllz:

I'm looking at the "what is it" heading under the wiki article and i'm afraid it's a bit over my head

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[R]:

they are similar... both offload decoding to the gpu

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[R]:

except in the case of nvidia

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[R]:

xvmc is very much unsupported

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[R]:

and only mpeg2

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bllz:

ah okay, so vdpau is the preferable option for nvidia cards

[20:47:43]

bllz:

and it supports more formats

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[R]:

well for >= geforce 8... there is no xvmc

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[R]:

so...

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bllz:

so by default, yes lol

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bllz:

okay

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bllz:

i have a dinosaur of a card anyway... GeForce 7300 SE

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[R]:

then why would you even be talking about vdpau

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[R]:

if you claimed to have read the wiki

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bllz:

yeah i just noticed that

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bllz:

jeez... cool it, man

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bllz:

hmm the playback is still stuttering a bit

[20:53:09]

bllz:

seems to stop when I pause it for a few seconds

[20:54:31]

bllz:

actually... it seems to be playing faster than it should...

[20:56:38]

bllz:

[R]: there's still a bit of stuttering on the dvd playback... anything I can try besides the playback profiles?

[20:56:53]

[R]:

what does the log say

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bllz:

[R]: well not much... it just reports dvd title, serial number, and it says it can't find a map file (whatever that is)

[20:58:02]

[R]:

does it work if you use mplayer

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bllz:

[R]: how would I test that/

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bllz:

?

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[R]:

install mplayer and try to get it to play the dvd...

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bllz:

[R]: this line is interesting... : 2009-12–25 19:52:29.361 AFD: Warning, video codec 0x6df1dc0 id(MPEG2VIDEO) type (Video) already ope$

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[R]:

why is that interesting?

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bllz:

i dunno... it just seems like it might be relevant

[21:01:08]

bllz:

what do you think?

[21:01:16]

[R]:

it syas its using mpeg2

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[R]:

nothing shocking there

[21:01:39]

bllz:

yeah but it also says warning and already open... seems rather daunting lol

[21:01:51]

bllz:

but i don't know, which is why i thought i'd ask

[21:02:46]

bllz:

as far as mplayer is concerned, its already installed... what command parameters should I use to test it?

[21:03:18]

[R]:

if you dont know how to use a program

[21:03:23]

[R]:

you should read it's documentation

[21:03:49]

bllz:

obviously, but since you told me I should test it using mplayer I thought there might be a specific set of conditions under which I should test it

[21:03:59]

bllz:

[R]: i promise i'm not trying to play dumb or avoid documentation

[21:04:22]

bllz:

but please understand that it's very irritating to ask well-meaning questions for the purposes of informing myself and proceeding intelligently and being told to RTFM

[21:04:35]

bllz:

and i do appreciate the help

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sid3windr:

[R]: if you don't know how to spell, don't ;)

[21:06:33]

[R]:

i can tell you a single command.. and you'll learn nothing

[21:06:33]

[R]:

or you can read the documentation

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[R]:

and you'll know what you are doing

[21:06:36]

sid3windr:

to stay in the same line of attitude ;)

[21:06:44]

[R]:

sid3windr: huh?

[21:07:03]

sid3windr:

"you should read it is documentation" clearly isn't a correct sentence

[21:07:06]

sid3windr:

</nitpick>

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bllz:

[R]: or you could just give an answer like "there are no specific parameters necessary. anythign will do" and that would be much more helpful than defaulting to a condescending RTFM

[21:07:43]

[R]:

bllz: except you do need paramters to tell mplayer to play advd

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[R]:

typeing 'mplayer'

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[R]:

isn't going to magically know what you want

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sid3windr:

mplayer dvd:// works, as does gmplayer ;)

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bllz:

sid3wind: thank you, and [R]: and that's all I really needed to know... that I had to specify a dvd. I can look it up from there

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[R]:

if you had read the documentation

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[R]:

it would have cdlearly told you how to play a dvd

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bllz:

[R]: well I'm sorry I'm taxing your efforts...

[21:11:52]

bllz:

odd... mplayer not found in the logs... i could have sworn it was installed

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bllz:

ah we have the same problem as before... mplayer is trying to open /dev/dvd I think...

[21:15:37]

bllz:

I have mplayer dvd:// -cdrom-device %d -fs -zoom -vo xv ... did I do something wrong?

[21:16:34]

ctmjr:

bllz: man mplayer then / then type dvd

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bllz:

ctmjr: thanks. does the [dvd|dvdnav] mean one or the other or do I copy that verbatim?

[21:18:43]

bllz:

i'd imagine I pick one?

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ctmjr:

one or the other

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bllz:

ok thanks

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bllz:

ctmjr: another question, do I have to have an entry for everything? the full line in the manpage is mplayer [dvd|dvdnav]://[title|[start_title]-end_title][/device] [options], but since I'm adding a line to the player settings in the frontend, can I skip the title and -end_title ?

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bllz:

ee gads that looks horrible

[21:24:23]

bllz:

ok the line reads mplayer dvd:// /dev/cdrom1 -fs -zoom -vo xv

[21:24:52]

bllz:

the player starts fullscreen but doesn't start at the beginning and has all sorts of horrid artifacts

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ctmjr:

yes the easiest way to get mplayer goin if you do not want to mess with cli is mplayer -gui

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[R]:

[05:32:48] [R] and is the disc damaged?

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bllz:

[R]: no

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bllz:

the disk is fine

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[R]:

well if mplayer isn't playing it...

[21:27:02]

bllz:

[R] The internal player was playing it, along with another one perfectly except for the stuttering issue

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bllz:

and now with mplayer the stuttering is gone but there are artifacts

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bllz:

pixellations and whatnot

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bllz:

and I can't get mplayer to start the dvd properly... it starts from a special feature track or something

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bllz:

is there any chance the issue with the internal player was a buffer problem? I suppose that might explain why the stuttering seems to disappear when I pause the video for a few seconds

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bllz:

or maybe my computer just has aids...

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clever:

[R]: -dvd-device /dev/cdrom1 i think is what you wanted

[21:53:37]

clever:

[R]: along with dvd://

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[R]:

clever: i didn't want anything

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bllz:

clever, that was for me I beleive

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clever:

ah

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bllz:

*believe,even

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bllz:

and thanks!

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clever:

i often use -dvd-device to trick it into using .iso files

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bllz:

on a completely unrelated note, I have an onboard Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) audio controller and I can't control my volume ... also, alsamixer doesn't start on the grounds that the arguments are invalid (what?!)... any idea what may be wrong?

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bllz:

here's my error line for alsamixer, btw: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument

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clever:

bllz: cat /proc/asound/cards

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bllz:

~$ cat /proc/asound/cards

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bllz:

0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel – HDA Intel

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bllz:

HDA Intel at 0xfbffc000 irq 16

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clever:

yeah the hda card gives alot of problems

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bllz:

clever: yeah i've heard that =/

[21:58:13]

clever:

i got it on 1 laptop

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clever:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto this guide got mine working

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bllz:

clever, I actually looked at that... does tihs apply to *all* HDA chipsets?

[21:59:11]

bllz:

I didn't try it yet because my rig doesn't have any of the symptoms described...

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clever:

i think so

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bllz:

clever: okay, i'll give it a closer look. thanks a lot!

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bllz:

clever: I'm following that tutorial you linked.... when I open /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz, I get a bunch of random characters... do you know what's up with that/

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bllz:

?

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clever:

its zipped, cat /usr/share/.... | gunzip|less

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bllz:

clever, thanks

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bllz:

clever: I realize this is not an ALSA channel, but my chipset is not listed in that file... do you know of anything else I can try? or anywhere else I can look?

[22:31:47]

clever:

nope

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bllz:

clever: ok well thanks for your help... I think i'm vaguely on the right track now

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gizmobay:

Does anyone know how recordings fanart works? It's not stored in the db like MythVideo fanart.

[22:42:37]

gizmobay:

I see a image in the fanart directory but it doesn't show up on the recrdings screen

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bllz:

gizmobay: i think that's default behavior for most themes. what theme are you using?

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gizmobay:

Mythbuntu

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gizmobay:

some show up. Others don't

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bllz:

gizmobay: um... in recordings? I *think* there's not supposed to be fanart, but let me check

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gizmobay:

or is it coverart?

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bllz:

gizmobay; for recordings? neither

[22:56:19]

bllz:

are you referring to mythvideo?

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bllz:

or recorded television?

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gizmobay:

I'm referring about tv recordings.

[22:58:34]

bllz:

gizmobay; I'm by no means a power user, but afaik, neither fanart nor cover art should show up under recordings...

[22:58:41]

bllz:

but i've beed dead wrong about stuff before =)

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wagnerrp:

no, mythtv has no specific support for fanart and banners in recordings

[22:59:03]

wagnerrp:

yes, some themes WILL pull images if they are available in the proper format

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gizmobay:

I have a cron job set for jamu.py for both videos and tv recordings

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bllz:

wagnerrp: right, but he's on the mythtv theme

[22:59:23]

wagnerrp:

hes on the mythbuntu theme

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wagnerrp:

which i dont know if does so off hand

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bllz:

yes sorry. mythbuntu

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bllz:

it doesn't

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gizmobay:

I guess I'm trying to figure out how they pull them in

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gizmobay:

since it's not in the db for tv

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wagnerrp:

if the theme doesnt support it, you dont

[23:00:08]

wagnerrp:

there is no field for images in recordings

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wagnerrp:

there is only the built in support for the screencap

[23:00:29]

wagnerrp:

themes have implemented this capacity entirely on their own

[23:00:39]

wagnerrp:

it has nothing to do with mythtv

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bllz:

gizmobay; that's something I think you'd have to ask the theme develloper

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RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: If jamu is finding coverart for your shows then it is also finding fanart and banners when they are in TVDB and TMDB. As wagnerrp suggested it may be that the theme you use does not display fanart.

[23:01:51]

bllz:

Is there anyway to disable automatic fill for all channels?

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gizmobay:

I looked in the recordings-ui.xml and it has <imagetype name="fanart">

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RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: Finding coverart and fanart once it is downloaded is done purely by the theme and matching of the show title as it appears in your EPG data.

[23:04:19]

RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: Which theme are you using?

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gizmobay:

Ahh, I see. I'll change the title on the image to see if it pulls it in

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bllz:

RDV_Linux: he's using the mythbuntu theme

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RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: The Mythbuntu theme supports fanart.

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bllz:

RDV_Linux: for recorded programs?

[23:05:37]

bllz:

really?

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RDV_Linux:

bllz: Well I am not as sure about the Watch Recordings screen but I think so.

[23:07:40]

bllz:

RDV_Linux: I'm using it right now and as far as I can tell, it's supported for mythvideo but not the watch recordings

[23:07:54]

bllz:

but i may be wrong

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RDV_Linux:

bllz: I will take your word for that as I do not use that theme.

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gizmobay:

yup changed the image name and it pulled it in

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RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: Jamu should be naming the images correctly, are you saying that jamu misnamed the fanart file?

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gizmobay:

I think it renamed or pulled the wrong one

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gizmobay:

The show was Law & Order it pulled Law & Order: Criminal Intent

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gizmobay:

thus it didn't pull in

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RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: You should add overrides to your jamu.conf file to try to fix those issues. Some shows like CSI hasve so many variations they cannot be fixed.

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gizmobay:

I see. I'll have to add those to jamu.py

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RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: No to the "~/.mythtv/jamu.conf" file. See the Jamu wiki page

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RDV_Linux:

gizmobay: Mythbuntu when installed adds a jamu,conf file to the mythtv user home directory "/home/mythtv/.mythtv/jamu.conf"

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gizmobay:

Is there a cache where it stores the fanart

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