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| [10:46:04] | T-Co: | Hello. I'm looking for the best supported full-featured DVB-T card in the market. Does someone have a clue what that might be? |
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| [10:56:23] | _abbenormal: | T-Co, look at the topic and do some reading also may want to look at linuxtv site and see what they say |
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| [11:41:09] | prupert: | Hi, I upgraded mythtv from 0.21 to 0.22 recently (by upgrading mythbuntu from 9.04 to 9.10). Everything worked amazingly well, except now mythrename.pl no longer works. I use to use it as part of a script to rename my recordings to human readable format and it worked great under 0.21. Now, under 0.22 it fails to change the names of the recordings. From what I can see, there was no changes to mythrename.pl from 0.2 |
| [11:41:09] | prupert: | 1 to 0.22 so I am not sure why it is no longer working. Sadly, mythrename.pl leaves no logs (unless they are in the mythtv logs??) so it is a tricky one to sort out...Any ideas?? |
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| [12:01:56] | wagnerrp: | prupert: i hope youre using the '--link' option |
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| [12:03:07] | prupert: | nope, not at the mo, as my custom script pulls the recordings away from the mythtv box on to my more powerful server, that encodes and searches for adverts – I only use the mythbox to record the files...I know this means I risk loosing files, but I don't mind at the mo |
| [12:03:35] | wagnerrp: | so why cant you use '--link'? |
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| [12:04:55] | prupert: | i am thinking it is down to the fact that mythrename.pl can't access the database – I noticed that myth.find_orphans.pl which worked fine on the old install was failing with this new one because it was using the name of the box as the hostname, and not localhost – luckily I could change this by editing the myth.find_orphans.pl, but Ican't find a simialir option in mythrename.pl |
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| [12:06:02] | prupert: | well, last time I tried to use it, the mv / cp command under bash didnt seem to like the symlinks that --link created for some reason.... |
| [12:06:34] | wagnerrp: | tools under linux should default to using the target of the link, not the link itself |
| [12:06:47] | wagnerrp: | and those that dont generally have a option to force that behavior |
| [12:08:16] | wagnerrp: | as for why it doesnt work at all... it needs to find a 'config.xml' to read the database information off of |
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| [12:09:02] | wagnerrp: | prupert: in trunk, the rename capability has been removed entirely, and it is now mythlink.pl |
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| [12:09:55] | prupert: | yeah, actually, I wrote the script when I knew less about bash, just doing a a quick MAN shows I need to use either the -H or -L option with cp, so I'll test that....I hafve a config.xml in the normal /etc/mythtv location, so I guess that is all fine |
| [12:10:23] | wagnerrp: | the normal location is ~/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [12:10:48] | prupert: | oh whoops, yeah, well, I haven't moved it from where it shoudl be, so I guess it is all fine |
| [12:11:09] | wagnerrp: | the only way it would read from another location is if the mythbuntu wrappers messed with the environment prior to calling the mythtv executables |
| [12:11:16] | prupert: | but you say mythrename.pl is loosing its rename capability? and mythlink.pl is replaing it? |
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| [12:12:15] | wagnerrp: | it got moved to.... |
| [12:13:30] | wagnerrp: | T-Co: why do you need a 'full-featured' card? |
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| [12:18:31] | prupert: | I will have a further bash about and see if my version has mythlink.pl and see if I can use the --link function, I guess that is the reason it isn't renaming, since that feature is no longer available!! failing that, I'll try a fresh install of mythbuntu and see what the state is then |
| [12:18:43] | prupert: | cheers for your input it has got me thinking about ways to fix it ;) |
| [12:18:45] | prupert: | byeee! |
| [12:18:58] | wagnerrp: | prupert: thats trunk, not 0.22 |
| [12:19:14] | wagnerrp: | additionally, a stock 9.10 install is not running 0.22 |
| [12:19:24] | PeaceKeeper: | I am ordering my hvr-2250, any reason I should not order this card (it is replacing my hdhomerun so I do nto need ananlog). |
| [12:19:26] | wagnerrp: | its running a pre-release version of the 0.22-fixes branch |
| [12:19:34] | wagnerrp: | you should update if you have not already done so |
| [12:19:46] | prupert: | oh, bummer, I am so barking up the wrong the tree then :( |
| [12:19:49] | wagnerrp: | PeaceKeeper: HDHR fail or something? |
| [12:20:16] | prupert: | ok, I'll have a further look into where I am – and have a dig around with --link then |
| [12:20:16] | PeaceKeeper: | yes :( |
| [12:21:30] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: I get very poor signal but by hd-5000 gets great signal |
| [12:21:38] | PeaceKeeper: | I have tried new and old firmware |
| [12:21:51] | wagnerrp: | PeaceKeeper: do you have an amp? |
| [12:22:00] | PeaceKeeper: | No. |
| [12:22:03] | wagnerrp: | remember, youre trying to drive two tuners off the same signal |
| [12:22:07] | PeaceKeeper: | Should I? |
| [12:22:14] | PeaceKeeper: | Humm |
| [12:22:22] | wagnerrp: | try a bigger antenna, or an amp |
| [12:22:28] | wagnerrp: | or... just plug in one of the tuners |
| [12:22:35] | PeaceKeeper: | Antenna takes up my whole attic :) |
| [12:23:23] | PeaceKeeper: | Not a large house, but the best antenna I can get up there. So AMP = good |
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| [12:23:47] | wagnerrp: | take out the splitter |
| [12:23:54] | wagnerrp: | and just plug into one of the tuners on the HDHR |
| [12:23:59] | wagnerrp: | see if it works better |
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| [12:25:42] | PeaceKeeper: | Oh, I did that, no better :( |
| [12:26:08] | PeaceKeeper: | One of the tuners (tuner 1) does a little better but not much |
| [12:27:04] | PeaceKeeper: | of course this is unscientific, just me watching the signal strenght on a windows box. |
| [12:27:29] | PeaceKeeper: | So the hvr-2250 not a plan? |
| [12:28:09] | wagnerrp: | no sense spending $130 on a new tuner, if you can get the old one working |
| [12:28:21] | PeaceKeeper: | Oh, I agree :) |
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| [13:19:20] | fbnts: | Hi, Is there a way to get the metadata gabber to use imdb.com instead of themoviedb.org? |
| [13:20:23] | iamlindoro: | Nope |
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| [13:20:48] | iamlindoro: | IMDB has asked that nobody scrape their site, they don't provide an online API to get the info, thus TMDB is the best available source that does |
| [13:21:00] | iamlindoro: | If something is missing at TMDB, you can improve the quality of the information there and everyone wins |
| [13:22:09] | fbnts: | ah ok, I have just searched tmdb and found the title of the dvd. Can I use the 5 digit number in the URL to manually specify the video? |
| [13:22:16] | wagnerrp: | in trunk, yes |
| [13:22:24] | wagnerrp: | in 0.22, you use the old IMDB id number |
| [13:22:46] | fbnts: | tried that – the imdb is 1433549 and the tmdb is 23270 |
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| [13:23:04] | wagnerrp: | the IMDB number will work, if TMDB knows what the IMDB number is |
| [13:23:06] | fbnts: | if I run /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/tmdb.pl -D 1433549 it doesnt return any results |
| [13:23:37] | iamlindoro: | then you should go to the page at TMDB, edit the movie details, and add the IMDB number in the IMDB number box |
| [13:23:53] | iamlindoro: | then when their caching server clears in a few days, it'll work with the grabber |
| [13:24:13] | fbnts: | ah ok just registering on tmdb now |
| [13:25:46] | RDV_Linux: | fbnts: Be aware due to TMDB caching servers your changes will take up to a day or so to propagate out so the grabber search will work. |
| [13:26:02] | iamlindoro: | "iamlindoro: then when their caching server clears in a few days, it'll work with the grabber" ;) |
| [13:26:28] | RDV_Linux: | iamlindoro: And why would I be reading your posts;) |
| [13:26:47] | iamlindoro: | because they make you smart ;) |
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| [13:27:28] | RDV_Linux: | iamlindoro: Do not mess with my ego as it can very mad at the both of us ;) |
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| [14:47:57] | cipher42: | anyone here have video working over firewire? |
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| [15:10:20] | fleers: | cipher42: lord knows i tried … both SA4240HDC and SA 3250HD … but I couldn't get either to record reliably |
| [15:10:57] | cipher42: | yea can get some video until i change the channel |
| [15:11:10] | cipher42: | and i haven't been able to get that in a week or so |
| [15:11:32] | fleers: | i _am_ using f/w for channel changing on an hd-pvr though, works a treat |
| [15:12:04] | cipher42: | yea that's what i'm gonna do |
| [15:12:08] | cipher42: | hauppauge 1212? |
| [15:12:10] | fleers: | maybe others here have had better luck, there are tales of success out there |
| [15:13:26] | fleers: | yep |
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| [15:20:00] | cipher42: | do you have to have a tuner preset to a channel with the 1212? |
| [15:20:13] | cipher42: | and will it scan the channels or do you have to manually put them all there? |
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| [15:22:39] | abqjp: | cipher42, is grabs the channel line up from SchedulesDirect (or whatever your listing provider is). |
| [15:22:44] | abqjp: | s/is/it/ |
| [15:22:56] | cipher42: | schedulesDirect cost money... |
| [15:23:18] | cipher42: | is there a free way to get them? |
| [15:23:39] | abqjp: | schedulesdirect costs less than a penny a day. |
| [15:24:34] | abqjp: | Okay, sorry, it costs 5 cents/day. |
| [15:26:33] | devinheitmueller: | Give me a f**king break. It's $20 a *YEAR*. Given that the content has to be licensed anyway, that's a steal (compared to Tivo which charges $17.95 a *MONTH* for the same content) |
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| [15:42:22] | wagnerrp: | yeah... just skip out on your cup of coffee once every couple months, and its paid for |
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| [16:01:22] | mag0o: | SD costs money? Oh wait, I already paid and forgot about it :) |
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| [16:03:01] | cipher42: | will it scan channels over firewire? |
| [16:05:25] | wagnerrp: | will what? |
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| [16:08:33] | cipher42: | mythtv with schedulesdirect |
| [16:08:59] | wagnerrp: | you should just be able to download the lineup straight from SD |
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| [16:24:39] | cipher42: | doesn't matter if i'm using firewire, coaxal, or component? |
| [16:25:11] | wagnerrp: | i believe it works for any input where tuning only requires a single number |
| [16:25:20] | wagnerrp: | meaning anything besides straight digital |
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| [16:31:29] | cipher42: | how come i can't find a hauppauge 1212 anywhere? |
| [16:31:37] | cipher42: | they stopped making them? |
| [16:31:44] | wagnerrp: | no, just in short supply |
| [16:31:52] | wagnerrp: | youll be better off searching for a 'HDPVR' |
| [16:33:15] | abqjp: | http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1212-Definiti . . . p/B0018LX0DY |
| [16:33:42] | cipher42: | yea that's where i bought it from but it says it won't ship till march 2 |
| [16:33:53] | cipher42: | or march 5 |
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| [16:52:45] | dustybin: | i have finally come up with a nice home server solution, i wont be going HD yet but this will give me access to some nice OS |
| [16:52:49] | dustybin: | http://paste.debian.net/60083/plain/60083 |
| [16:53:32] | wagnerrp: | why would you want vmware? |
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| [16:54:40] | wagnerrp: | why would you want windows server 2008? |
| [16:54:55] | dustybin: | education |
| [16:55:05] | dustybin: | i might move into IT support role |
| [16:55:46] | dustybin: | thats why my setup contains some of the most popular OS :D |
| [16:57:39] | cipher42: | windows servers are the worst |
| [16:57:44] | cipher42: | why not linux? |
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| [16:58:14] | dustybin: | cipher42: for me to move into IT, i will first need to learn win$hit |
| [16:58:43] | dustybin: | windows >> redhat/centos |
| [16:59:10] | cipher42: | windows = lame for servers |
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| [16:59:26] | dustybin: | very true, but its always handy to know how windows boxes work |
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| [16:59:40] | dustybin: | considering just about every office block uses them.. |
| [16:59:46] | jamesd2: | windows == larger amounts of money if you do oncall and are hourly... |
| [16:59:47] | cipher42: | not for servers |
| [17:00:01] | dustybin: | windows severs are office servers |
| [17:00:08] | dustybin: | for office stuff |
| [17:00:44] | cipher42: | if you want to impress an employer learn linux |
| [17:01:00] | cipher42: | and if you want a reliable, secure, fast server |
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| [17:03:37] | wagnerrp: | if you want server hardware, dont bother with a 3400 |
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| [17:04:12] | wagnerrp: | theres no reason to spend the markup unless youre looking for dual processor or better |
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| [17:42:17] | jamiem: | !seen kormoc |
| [17:42:17] | MythLogBot: | kormoc was last seen 6 hours 10 minutes 2 seconds ago |
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| [18:01:50] | frojnd: | Hello tehre |
| [18:01:52] | frojnd: | :) |
| [18:01:55] | frojnd: | I don't know know how to watch TV while on another computer. I've setup mythtv on my server but how do I watch TV on my laptop? |
| [18:02:16] | wagnerrp: | is the backend running? have you installed mythtv on your laptop? |
| [18:03:07] | frojnd: | wagnerrp: no I have not installed mythtv on my laptop |
| [18:03:16] | frojnd: | wagnerrp: the backend is running on server though |
| [18:03:33] | wagnerrp: | how were you intending to watch tv without a frontend? |
| [18:03:48] | frojnd: | wagnerrp: vlc |
| [18:03:52] | frojnd: | wagnerrp: or mplayer... |
| [18:04:04] | wagnerrp: | neither of which speak mythproto |
| [18:04:24] | wagnerrp: | you can watch recording files directly, if you mount them to the local file system |
| [18:04:30] | frojnd: | ok I've installed mythtv on laptop how do I connect to backend? Or do I have t osetup something first? |
| [18:04:37] | wagnerrp: | but neither have the capability to trigger a livetv session |
| [18:04:48] | wagnerrp: | its all covered in the documentation |
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| [18:05:21] | frojnd: | wagnerrp: what topic? |
| [18:06:18] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-10.html |
| [18:06:59] | frojnd: | thanx |
| [18:07:36] | wagnerrp: | you may also want to check out http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.3 |
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| [18:09:22] | frojnd: | huh |
| [18:09:48] | wagnerrp: | it says you may have to make changes in your mysql and mythbackend setups to allow outside connections |
| [18:09:50] | frojnd: | I did installed mythtv package but when trying to run it I only have options mythtranscode mythtvosd mythtv-setup to run |
| [18:09:56] | wagnerrp: | i.e.: connections from a second host |
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| [18:20:11] | PeaceKeeper: | Ok, I am going to buy a new card. After trying an amp in my hdhomerun there is no differ. |
| [18:20:13] | skd5aner: | any word on progress around getting block level playback (DVD) working over Storage Groups? Haven't checked in a few months, was curious if anyone was taking the challenge? |
| [18:20:28] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: thank you for the tip :) |
| [18:20:57] | PeaceKeeper: | Now I just need to decide on the new card... |
| [18:21:24] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: you can write a small wrapper around mythfs in contrib |
| [18:21:34] | wagnerrp: | but i havent heard anything recent about the native support |
| [18:22:03] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: hmmm, well – that's why I asked what MythFS was a few weeks back – was hoping it was releated, but didn't think so (and you confirmed) :D |
| [18:22:24] | wagnerrp: | that was not its intended purpose |
| [18:22:34] | wagnerrp: | but it was a fairly simple addition to make it do so |
| [18:22:49] | skd5aner: | yea – hoping for the native support sooner or later, would like to do away with the video structure I have now and migrate to SGs for videos |
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| [18:27:14] | PeaceKeeper: | I am trying to find the kernel that supports the hvr-2250 on kernellabs but cant find it :( |
| [18:27:35] | devinheitmueller: | PeaceKeeper: it's not a kernel. It's just a v4l-dvb tree. |
| [18:27:53] | PeaceKeeper: | ahhh |
| [18:28:01] | devinheitmueller: | PeaceKeeper: and pretty much all the patches were merged upstream, so you should just install the current v4l-dvb tree via the instructions at http://linuxtv.org/repo |
| [18:28:05] | PeaceKeeper: | that would explain it. I am looking for the wrong thing |
| [18:29:53] | devinheitmueller: | PeaceKeeper: but to answer your question, the current KernelLabs tree is at: http://kernellabs.com/hg/saa7164-stable/ |
| [18:30:25] | PeaceKeeper: | I wonder if i can get this off atrpms. I am pretty new to this |
| [18:30:33] | devinheitmueller: | Probably not. |
| [18:30:40] | devinheitmueller: | You will probably need to build from source. |
| [18:30:56] | devinheitmueller: | .... since it's a kernel module, you need the version that exactly matches your kernel. |
| [18:31:20] | PeaceKeeper: | ok :) time to learn how to do this them |
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| [18:31:30] | PeaceKeeper: | Thank you for the links! |
| [18:31:35] | devinheitmueller: | Build instructions can be found here: http://linuxtv.org/repo/ |
| [18:31:43] | devinheitmueller: | np |
| [18:31:48] | PeaceKeeper: | Reading that site now :) |
| [18:32:31] | PeaceKeeper: | Is there a site that explains about the firmware loading? |
| [18:32:36] | frojnd: | how do I start backend on my laptop usually? |
| [18:32:46] | devinheitmueller: | PeaceKeeper: you will just need to copy the files to /lib/firmware. |
| [18:32:55] | PeaceKeeper: | ok I can do that |
| [18:32:57] | wagnerrp: | frojnd: do you have a tuner on your laptop? |
| [18:33:02] | PeaceKeeper: | thx again! |
| [18:33:05] | devinheitmueller: | PeaceKeeper: http://www.steventoth.net/linux/hvr22xx/ |
| [18:33:12] | devinheitmueller: | PeaceKeeper: the firmware ^ |
| [18:33:32] | frojnd: | how do I start FRONTEND on my laptop usually? |
| [18:33:36] | frojnd: | typo :S |
| [18:33:40] | wagnerrp: | 'mythfrontend' |
| [18:35:25] | frojnd: | hm |
| [18:35:37] | frojnd: | I type in IP 192.168.1.45 leave port blank |
| [18:35:39] | frojnd: | and finish |
| [18:35:59] | frojnd: | but I get message cannot login to database? |
| [18:36:16] | elmojo: | sphery: any ideas why mythconverg_restore.pl is "Unable to connect to database." |
| [18:36:34] | frojnd: | do I also have to put in port? and forward it? I haven't change ports while seting up backend on server |
| [18:36:45] | elmojo: | sphery: I can log in with mysql -umythtv -p and show DATABASES; has mythconverg |
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| [18:37:11] | wagnerrp: | frojnd: those options are to tell the frontend where the database is |
| [18:37:15] | elmojo: | sphery: I've also check /home/mythtv/.mythtv/config.xml and the username and password are correct |
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| [18:37:41] | wagnerrp: | you have to give it the IP, login, and password for the sql server |
| [18:37:53] | wagnerrp: | you also have to make sure the sql server has been set up to allow remote access |
| [18:38:03] | wagnerrp: | and have granted access to the IP or hostname you are connecting from |
| [18:38:18] | frojnd: | wagnerrp: I haven't setup mysql for mythtv |
| [18:38:28] | elmojo: | localhost and correct login and password |
| [18:38:31] | wagnerrp: | have you read the documentation? |
| [18:38:52] | frojnd: | wagnerrp: no, I have just followed wiki for arch linux |
| [18:40:05] | wagnerrp: | then it should have described how to set up the sql server for mythtv |
| [18:40:11] | wagnerrp: | or it is a woefully incomplete howto |
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| [18:59:57] | SirColin: | evening all |
| [19:00:17] | elmojo: | sphery: I figure it out... when I recreated the database I forgot to grant privileges to the mythtv user from any host |
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| [19:49:49] | frojnd: | I think I have set up mysql # mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/mc.sql |
| [19:49:54] | frojnd: | for mythtv |
| [19:50:01] | frojnd: | but still can't connect to backend |
| [19:50:34] | frojnd: | WHat I don't know there is user and password, while seting up backend I haven't set any user or password for mythtv |
| [19:52:00] | frojnd: | also when starting up mythfrontedn I get message: no upnp frontends found |
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| [19:57:43] | frojnd: | cannot login to database :S |
| [19:57:58] | frojnd: | I've created user with password that can use mysql |
| [19:58:09] | frojnd: | but dunno where did I make it wornf |
| [19:58:11] | frojnd: | wrong |
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| [21:52:22] | dcr226: | hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction for running myth on the X server without starting the DE? |
| [21:52:52] | wagnerrp: | DE? |
| [21:53:15] | keith4_: | desktop environment? |
| [21:53:29] | wagnerrp: | just dont start your desktop environment |
| [21:53:32] | dcr226: | yes, sorry |
| [21:53:47] | wagnerrp: | set it to start up something simple like fluxbox, ratpoison, or evilwm |
| [21:54:01] | dcr226: | wagnerrp: ah, ok that makes sense |
| [21:54:19] | wagnerrp: | is this a machine you otherwise use for desktop purposes> |
| [21:54:21] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [21:54:42] | dcr226: | no |
| [21:54:52] | dcr226: | its more or less gonna be an appliance |
| [21:54:53] | wagnerrp: | if its a dedicated mythtv box, there are instructions on the wiki for completely disabling xdm/gdm/kdm |
| [21:55:06] | wagnerrp: | and using the standard terminal configuration to auto-login and launch mythtv |
| [21:55:18] | dcr226: | oh nice, any idea of a link at all? |
| [21:55:33] | dcr226: | thats just what I need |
| [21:55:33] | wagnerrp: | its on the wiki, i dont know off hand |
| [21:55:40] | dcr226: | np, I'll take a look |
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| [23:16:12] | tzanger: | good evening |
| [23:16:26] | tzanger: | I have two backends that usually get along very very well (one has the media, one has the ATSC tuners) |
| [23:16:44] | tzanger: | every now and again the master backend (the one with the media) will simply not see the other one |
| [23:16:53] | tzanger: | encoder status shows that the encoders are remote and currently not connected |
| [23:16:59] | tzanger: | I stop/restart the backends, nothing changs |
| [23:17:18] | tzanger: | on the slave backend I can force a resched and see the remote contact mysql on the master |
| [23:17:35] | tzanger: | they can both see the schedules, but nothing gets recorded because the master claims the slave is not connected |
| [23:17:47] | tzanger: | what can I do to try to resolve this? |
| [23:18:10] | tank-man: | do the log files reveal any useful information? |
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| [23:18:55] | tzanger: | the log files don't seem to say too much, I have the master runnign with -v important,record |
| [23:21:34] | tzanger: | hmm I notice on the slave here "empty localhostname" |
| [23:21:38] | tzanger: | that doesn't look so good |
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| [23:26:09] | tzanger: | 2010-02–16 22:25:47.240 Empty LocalHostName. |
| [23:26:10] | tzanger: | 2010-02–16 22:25:47.240 Using localhost value of office |
| [23:26:23] | tzanger: | where do I find 'LocalHostName' ? there is no setting in teh database with that name |
| [23:26:38] | wagnerrp: | that is your local hostname |
| [23:26:50] | wagnerrp: | that is the value it finds locally, to figure out what settings belong to it in the database |
| [23:26:57] | wagnerrp: | run 'hostname' |
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| [23:29:58] | tzanger: | that's correct |
| [23:29:59] | tzanger: | it's not empty |
| [23:30:01] | tzanger: | $ hostname |
| [23:30:01] | tzanger: | office |
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| [23:34:36] | wagnerrp: | LocalHostName is empty, so there is no value to be used to override that name in the database |
| [23:34:47] | wagnerrp: | so its just using the default, which is the hostname |
| [23:40:47] | tzanger: | oh, so that's not actually something to worry about then |
| [23:43:01] | tzanger: | the slave connects to the db and it seems to find everything it needs |
| [23:44:19] | tzanger: | should I be seeing something about the master and slave communicating (not sql) with -v all on the slave? |
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| [23:59:44] | bcgrown: | is there a way to display the bitrate of the mpeg stream from my firewire cable tuner? |
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