Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Wednesday, February 17th, 2010, 00:01 AST

[00:01:04]

tzanger:

wow I dunno, I reboot the slave and things work again

[00:01:10]

tzanger:

I hate that as a "solution"

[00:01:51]

Shadow__X (Shadow__X!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[00:03:32]

Shadow__X (Shadow__X!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:07:37]

RyeBrye_ (RyeBrye_!~ryebrye@67.199.187.50) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:07:40]

cabrel (cabrel!~cabrel@c-68-62-212-11.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:08:06]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@67.199.187.50) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[00:08:06]

RyeBrye_ is now known as RyeBrye

[00:12:11]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h13.163.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has quit (Quit: I am called onward)

[00:27:14]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h13.163.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:28:59]

npm (npm!~npm@cpe-76-170-208-244.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[00:30:37]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h13.163.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[00:32:43]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@58.164.109.111) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:35:10]

dkeith__ (dkeith__!~dkeith@72-254-58-37.client.stsn.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:35:36]

dkeith__ (dkeith__!~dkeith@72-254-58-37.client.stsn.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[00:36:16]

dkeith__ (dkeith__!~dkeith@72-254-58-37.client.stsn.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:45:21]

tzanger (tzanger!~tzanger@gromit.mixdown.ca) has left #mythtv-users ()

[00:57:42]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@58.164.109.111) has quit (Quit: lyricnz)

[00:59:25]

cabrel_ (cabrel_!~cabrel@c-68-62-212-11.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:01:02]

poodyp (poodyp!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:01:03]

T-Co (T-Co!tco@0c.fi) has left #mythtv-users ()

[01:01:13]

bbigras_ (bbigras_!quasselcor@modemcable195.82-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:01:23]

cabrel_ (cabrel_!~cabrel@c-68-62-212-11.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[01:04:02]

cabrel (cabrel!~cabrel@c-68-62-212-11.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[01:04:02]

poodyp1 (poodyp1!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[01:04:02]

bbigras (bbigras!quasselcor@modemcable195.82-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[01:04:03]

94SAAHAKE (94SAAHAKE!~poodyp@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:05:57]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@58.164.109.111) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:21:51]

mishehu_ (mishehu_!mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) has quit (Quit: leaving)

[01:22:17]

poodyp (poodyp!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Disconnected by services)

[01:22:59]

94SAAHAKE is now known as poodyp

[01:23:17]

poodyp1 (poodyp1!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:24:12]

mishehu (mishehu!mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:34:39]

SirColin (SirColin!~sircolin@my83-216-68-241.mynow.co.uk) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[02:00:33]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has quit ()

[02:14:47]

Hilikus (Hilikus!~hilikus@unaffiliated/hilikus) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:14:53]

Hilikus:

hey guys

[02:15:50]

Hilikus:

if i have a recording that takes 2GB and i have a frontend accessing the backend through the internet, will the transfer of watching the show be the full 2GB or there is some compression/resampling??

[02:16:11]

wagnerrp:

no compression, no transcoding

[02:16:34]

wagnerrp:

if you want to use mythtv across the internet, you need an upstream bandwidth of at least that of the recording

[02:16:37]

Hilikus:

do people use frontends through the internet?

[02:16:42]

Hilikus:

mmm ok

[02:16:48]

wagnerrp:

no, for the above reason

[02:17:17]

wagnerrp:

there IS some 3rd party project that adds a built in transcoder, as well as encryption, for the purpose of accessing mythtv across the internet

[02:17:29]

wagnerrp:

however i dont know if it is still maintained

[02:18:06]

wagnerrp:

you also need sql access, which is not advised

[02:18:21]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[02:18:23]

Hilikus:

mmm true

[02:19:36]

Hilikus:

where is the address of the backend stored in the frontend?? my FE can access mysql but then it complains it can't find the backend at 127.0.0.1

[02:19:47]

Hilikus:

is that address stored in the db and queried?

[02:19:53]

wagnerrp:

the address is stored in the database and queried

[02:20:07]

wagnerrp:

the MasterServerIP and BackendServerIP values

[02:20:14]

Hilikus:

ok, perfect

[02:20:20]

Hilikus:

thanks a bunch wagnerrp

[02:20:20]

wagnerrp:

two things you set on the first page in the first group of mythtv-setup

[02:20:29]

wagnerrp:

change then in mythtv-setup, and restart your backend

[02:20:36]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@kalis.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[02:21:04]

Hilikus:

will do

[02:21:05]

Hilikus:

thanks

[02:21:07]

Hilikus:

gnight

[02:21:10]

Hilikus (Hilikus!~hilikus@unaffiliated/hilikus) has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)

[02:22:45]

BjornR1989 (BjornR1989!~inbox@d54C2B437.access.telenet.be) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:22:56]

leprechau (leprechau!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[02:23:10]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:23:10]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stoffel

[02:24:25]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@58.164.109.111) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[02:27:03]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:27:16]

Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!~jepz@e177233201.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:29:22]

rushfan (rushfan!~rushfan@cpe-98-155-83-89.san.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:29:32]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[02:30:36]

Chicago (Chicago!~Chicago@c-98-223-75-214.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:32:06]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:37:39]

croppa_ (croppa_!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:38:01]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[02:54:39]

fleers is now known as fleers_

[02:57:38]

KraMer (KraMer!~mark@2002:46f0:bab3:0:215:f2ff:fef4:4288) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[03:08:37]

madLyfe (madLyfe!~madLyfe@173-20-220-11.client.mchsi.com) has quit ()

[03:12:17]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:20:04]

madLyfe (madLyfe!~madLyfe@173-20-220-11.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:23:44]

joakim_ (joakim_!~joakim@h252n1c1o253.bredband.skanova.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:26:06]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[03:29:21]

rushfan (rushfan!~rushfan@cpe-98-155-83-89.san.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[03:36:08]

bcgrown (bcgrown!~dave@216-19-189-175.dyn.novuscom.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[03:37:38]

eNeRGi (eNeRGi!~nrgizer@cs78235252.pp.htv.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:41:37]

Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!~jepz@e177233201.adsl.alicedsl.de) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[03:44:26]

deaman (deaman!~dean@3.79-160-162.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:56:32]

eNeRGi_ (eNeRGi_!~nrgizer@cs78235252.pp.htv.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:58:18]

eNeRGi (eNeRGi!~nrgizer@cs78235252.pp.htv.fi) has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)

[04:01:20]

purserj (purserj!~purserj@k-sit.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)

[04:02:27]

brad2 (brad2!~brad@bas6-toronto63-1128541402.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:03:05]

joakim_ (joakim_!~joakim@h252n1c1o253.bredband.skanova.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[04:03:38]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:03:38]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stoffel

[04:04:25]

sybolt (sybolt!~sybolt@sybolt.xs4all.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:06:14]

Brad-D (Brad-D!~brad@bas6-toronto63-1128541657.dsl.bell.ca) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[04:09:20]

joakim_ (joakim_!~joakim@h252n1c1o253.bredband.skanova.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:13:11]

XChatMav (XChatMav!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[04:17:06]

DixitDominus (DixitDominus!~nieve@cpe-74-68-150-209.nyc.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[04:17:39]

deaman (deaman!~dean@3.79-160-162.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Quit: deaman)

[04:18:57]

duerF (duerF!~tommi@heima.tommi.org) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[04:18:59]

DixitDominus (DixitDominus!~nieve@cpe-74-68-150-209.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:19:15]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[04:21:02]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:23:25]

stuartm (stuartm!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust213.leic.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[04:25:10]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-95-53-167-126.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:26:31]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@ppp118-209-162-204.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:26:56]

superdump (superdump!~rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:36:45]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:36:47]

fclausen (fclausen!~fclausen@213.244.186.121) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:40:08]

purserj (purserj!~purserj@k-sit.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:40:52]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:44:38]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@250-203.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:47:09]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@ip503c5f35.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:49:55]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[05:00:22]

poodyp (poodyp!~poodyp@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: poodyp)

[05:00:42]

poodyp (poodyp!~poodyp@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:03:39]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[05:05:12]

poodyp (poodyp!~poodyp@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[05:09:09]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-95-53-167-126.vologda.ru) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[05:19:25]

Lycan^ (Lycan^!~MrX@124-168-2-136.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:25:18]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@ppp118-209-166-52.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:27:27]

jvs (jvs!~jvs@90.146.56.206) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:30:01]

Lycan^ (Lycan^!~MrX@124-168-2-136.dyn.iinet.net.au) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[05:33:32]

gbee_ is now known as gbee

[05:42:03]

jvs (jvs!~jvs@90.146.56.206) has quit (Quit: your sweet alchemy turns trouble to gold)

[05:49:17]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:52:59]

hashbang (hashbang!~hashbang@cse-ajb.cse.bris.ac.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:11:13]

rooaus1 (rooaus1!~cameron@ppp118-209-7-241.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:12:25]

rooaus (rooaus!~cameron@ppp118-209-15-176.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[06:17:09]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@250-203.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[06:24:41]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has quit (Quit: Leaving...)

[06:26:21]

zand (zand!~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:26:49]

DjMadness_ (DjMadness_!~quassel@0x5552d9c6.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:27:01]

gunni (gunni!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-254-113.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:27:23]

xand (xand!~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) has quit (Disconnected by services)

[06:27:28]

zand is now known as xand

[06:28:28]

KungFuJesus (KungFuJesus!adam@CN-ESR1-69-61-222-184.fuse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:28:30]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@250-203.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:28:46]

jduggan_ (jduggan_!~thom@s.tankengine.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:28:48]

qupada42 (qupada42!~qupada@131.203.203.2) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:28:52]

MooingLe1ur (MooingLe1ur!~troy@unaffiliated/mooinglemur) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:28:55]

_Metoer (_Metoer!metoer@77.68.145.151) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:29:02]

Lollero_ (Lollero_!lollero@rrsite.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:29:03]

baffle_ (baffle_!baffle@shell.eunet.no) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:29:04]

Essobi_ (Essobi_!~Essobi@74-133-145-112.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:29:37]

eNeRGi (eNeRGi!~nrgizer@cs78235252.pp.htv.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:29:37]

bobgill_ (bobgill_!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:32:13]

foxbuntu` (foxbuntu`!~foxbuntu@173-29-149-105.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:33:53]

eNeRGi_ (eNeRGi_!~nrgizer@cs78235252.pp.htv.fi) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

dkeith__ (dkeith__!~dkeith@72-254-58-37.client.stsn.net) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@67.199.187.50) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

KungFuJe1us (KungFuJe1us!adam@CN-ESR1-69-61-222-184.fuse.net) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

gunni_ (gunni_!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-254-113.netcologne.de) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

jduggan (jduggan!~thom@s.tankengine.co.uk) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

DjMadness (DjMadness!~quassel@pdpc/supporter/student/DjMadness) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

Lollero (Lollero!lollero@rrsite.com) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

bbee (bbee!~bbee@unaffiliated/bbee) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:53]

hipitihop (hipitihop!~denis@203.132.229.187) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

qupada (qupada!~qupada@131.203.203.2) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

Dave123 (Dave123!~dave@cpe-74-69-108-236.rochester.res.rr.com) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

clever (clever!~clever@2001:470:1d:19a:205:5dff:feff:f422) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

sulx (sulx!~sulx@85-23-15-158-Karjasilta-TR1.suomi.net) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

psipsi (psipsi!~psipsi@rrcs-24-227-36-210.se.biz.rr.com) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

Metoer (Metoer!metoer@77.68.145.151) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

tomimo (tomimo!~kurre@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

foxbuntu (foxbuntu!~foxbuntu@ubuntu/member/foxbuntu) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

Dibblah (Dibblah!~Dibblah@cpc2-dund11-2-0-cust292.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:54]

Essobi (Essobi!~Essobi@74-133-145-112.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:55]

baffle (baffle!baffle@shell.eunet.no) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:55]

d0netsFN (d0netsFN!den0ts@blea.ch) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:33:55]

MooingLemur (MooingLemur!~troy@unaffiliated/mooinglemur) has quit (*.net *.split)

[06:35:27]

sunny (sunny!~sunny@frankfurt.audiowiki.org) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[06:35:38]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[06:41:21]

adante (adante!~adante@59.167.212.65) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[06:41:38]

adante (adante!~adante@59.167.212.65) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:46:47]

_Metoer is now known as Metoer

[07:05:10]

cynicismic (cynicismic!~rclark@94-194-202-107.zone8.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:15:02]

croppa_ (croppa_!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[07:20:08]

rgd (rgd!~rgd@81.144.136.164) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:20:36]

noaXess_kubuntu (noaXess_kubuntu!~chatzilla@gw.ptr-80-238-209-47.customer.ch.netstream.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:20:45]

noaXess_kubuntu:

hi all

[07:21:41]

noaXess_kubuntu:

have rescaned my channels, xml data works.. but on one channel i can't record if i create a record plan for a future show..

[07:22:47]

noaXess_kubuntu:

while the show is recording it will be listed as green entry in recorded shows, but if i want show that show, the file can't be found

[07:23:13]

frojnd:

Hello there.

[07:23:44]

frojnd:

Now... I don't wanna be a bitch, but what's the way to test if tv card (analog) is even working under linux?

[07:24:01]

vanksi (vanksi!~vanksi@stekt2.oulu.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:24:22]

frojnd:

I'm rading mythtv documentation but haven't found any info regarding this

[07:24:39]

noaXess_kubuntu:

if i try watching that channel live it works.. but the first time it get "on known multiplex...", the second time i watch this channel, i get the normal channel info's.. signal and so on

[07:25:25]

noaXess_kubuntu:

frojnd: first check the wiki about compatiböe cards.. wait a second

[07:26:22]

noaXess_kubuntu:

frojnd: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tuner_Card#Cards_tested_with_MythTV

[07:27:00]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@250-203.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch) has quit (Quit: hpeter)

[07:29:19]

oobe:

frojnd, install tv time and scan for channels

[07:29:21]

frojnd:

I have bt878 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) but don't know what brooktree is about

[07:29:40]

oobe:

oh those are crap but will still work

[07:29:59]

frojnd:

oobe: what modeule is used in kernel for tvlinux?

[07:30:04]

frojnd:

oobe: crap*

[07:30:05]

frojnd:

?

[07:30:07]

frojnd:

ah shit

[07:30:14]

oobe:

none its a program

[07:30:21]

oobe:

your tv card uses a module

[07:30:29]

frojnd:

oobe: yeah and I have to modrpobe it..

[07:30:31]

oobe:

i cant remember the name though

[07:30:41]

frojnd:

oobe: no modules are loaded by default in arch

[07:31:08]

oobe:

tvtime is a very basic app for tuning analogue signals

[07:31:17]

frojnd:

oobe: tvtime it is

[07:31:42]

oobe:

its handy i use it when i am capturing vhs to get the right channel set

[07:32:00]

frojnd:

oobe: so you also have analog antena

[07:32:16]

oobe:

yea i guess

[07:32:59]

oobe:

i dont see the distinction as yet cause me personally i can recieve analogue and digital through my antenna

[07:33:18]

oobe:

i relise there are digital antennas but i dont know anything about them

[07:34:40]

frojnd:

so tvtime is used in your case only to search for chans and for the rest of the work you use mythtv?

[07:35:09]

oobe:

well in my case i dont use analogue

[07:35:48]

oobe:

but if i were and i also had a bt878 i would go to mythtv-setup and configure it then scan for channels

[07:36:11]

frojnd:

oobe: scan with?

[07:36:19]

oobe:

but if you just want to test its working use tvtime its a quick and easy way

[07:36:25]

frojnd:

It's scanning with tvtime and it finds nothing wow

[07:37:02]

oobe:

mythtv-setup 2. capture card ( select your device ) 3. add video sources 4. scan for channels

[07:37:37]

oobe:

frojnd, thats a faster way to find out its not getting a signal

[07:37:52]

oobe:

see if you did it in mythtv-setup you would be wondering if there was a human error

[07:37:58]

oobe:

since its new to you

[07:38:15]

frojnd:

I followed this guide: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MythTV_HOWTO

[07:38:26]

frojnd:

but I don't understand a few things within settings

[07:38:32]

oobe:

so im thinking you may need a better aerial or need to change some settings in tvtime

[07:38:38]

frojnd:

oobe: yeah

[07:39:08]

gunni_ (gunni_!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-250-39.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:39:18]

frojnd:

I don't even know if video source is Televison or S-video or composite 1 :D

[07:39:29]

noaXess_kubuntu:

thats the log of backend if i want record a show on that channel.. and then want watch it while or after recording http://paste.ubuntu.com/378284/

[07:39:34]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:39:34]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stoffel

[07:41:13]

noaXess_kubuntu:

and thats the log of frontend if i want whatch the recorded show.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/378286/

[07:42:41]

gunni (gunni!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-254-113.netcologne.de) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[07:42:48]

noaXess_kubuntu:

any idea why i cant record on that channel, but can watch livetv?

[07:43:27]

frojnd:

oobe: how can I rescan with tvtime?

[07:45:15]

oobe:

there is a menu

[07:45:35]

frojnd:

huh, I already found tvtime-scanner --input=0 but

[07:45:39]

frojnd:

- No signal

[07:45:42]

frojnd:

that's weird

[07:45:53]

frojnd:

maybe I really need to load that module I don't know how it's called for tv cards

[07:46:09]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:52:14]

oobe:

frojnd, yes you should load the module for your tv tuner i already assumed you did

[07:52:30]

oobe:

if you are refering to a module for tvtime then there is none

[07:52:39]

oobe:

modules are for hardware support

[07:59:00]

frojnd:

oobe: I know that

[07:59:22]

frojnd:

oobe: I'm refering to what module do I have to have loaded for bt878 if it's not already

[07:59:32]

oobe:

im not sure

[07:59:53]

oobe:

its bttv

[08:00:26]

oobe:

http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/BTTV.html#ss4.5

[08:00:35]

oobe:

google told me in 2.5 secs

[08:00:43]

frojnd:

http://dpaste.com/160414/

[08:00:48]

frojnd:

I have a few modeuls there

[08:04:09]

oobe:

looks ok to me

[08:06:54]

oobe:

noaXess_kubuntu, are you using multiple storage groups

[08:07:00]

oobe:

it looks like it cant find the file

[08:08:21]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: think no, one for recording, one for livetv

[08:08:43]

jst_ (jst_!~jst@174.12.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:08:48]

oobe:

and you say livetv works ok

[08:08:50]

jst_:

I know this isn't the channel, but

[08:09:00]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: yes

[08:09:16]

jst_:

I'll ask away... my 802.11n card can use 5 GHz, but my router can't... would it make sense to upgrade my router?

[08:10:12]

noaXess_kubuntu:

jst_: realy wrong channel

[08:10:28]

oobe:

well for some reason as soon as you try to record somthing on the channel it cant find the file

[08:10:59]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: but now all new records can be watched..

[08:11:02]

oobe:

maybe its somthing to do with the recordings path or access i dont see how though if other channels work

[08:11:06]

noaXess_kubuntu:

cant

[08:11:19]

oobe:

ls -lt /path/to/recordings

[08:11:35]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: there are a lot of..

[08:11:55]

oobe:

paste a small sample

[08:12:06]

oobe:

in pastebin i mean

[08:12:48]

jst_:

noaXess_kubuntu, yeah, I realize 5 GHz is ideal... but the Trendnet TEW-639GR is incapable of utilizing it. I'm still getting speeds of 6–7 MB/s which is decent, I suppose.

[08:14:20]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378299/

[08:14:37]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, I have not read the whole thred but I had similar recording and viewing problems but it turned out to be that I forgotten to set the correct permit on the recordning folder and the liveTV folder

[08:14:42]

noaXess_kubuntu:

the strange thing is, that all other channels work ??

[08:15:33]

noaXess_kubuntu:

joakim_: ok.. will check

[08:15:36]

frojnd:

oobe: I've checked for signals now tih S-video and television with a command: tvtime-scanner --output=0 but in both cases there was No signal

[08:16:39]

noaXess_kubuntu:

joakim_: what perms are correct?

[08:16:46]

oobe:

noaXess_kubuntu, try doing a chown -R mythtv:mythtv /path/to/recordings folder

[08:16:58]

oobe:

then scheduling a recording

[08:17:56]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: ok

[08:19:55]

oobe:

frojnd, i have never used tvtime-scanner

[08:19:59]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, well the user thats running the frontend shold be able to write to the folder(s) or if you dont mind making it writable for all just typ in a terminal

[08:20:02]

joakim_:

sudo chmod -R 777 /var/lib/mytht/*

[08:20:26]

joakim_:

to make all the mythtv folders writable for any body

[08:20:37]

jst_ (jst_!~jst@174.12.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[08:21:09]

frojnd:

oobe: it's just more "detailed" ...does Channel management – Frequency table mean anything? I have analog tv card with outdor antena and not satellite and here is set to Cable. I can choose between Broaqdcas and Cable with Channels 100'

[08:21:13]

oobe:

frojnd, just start tvtime and scroll thru the menu with ur mouse set the input connect and such then scan for channels

[08:21:19]

frojnd:

or is this just cable that goes inato my card

[08:21:55]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, not sure you use the default folders to stor the recordings you might have to change the /var/lib/mythtv/ to what ever folder you use

[08:22:17]

oobe:

i dont know where you live and what you are trying to recieve

[08:22:23]

noaXess_kubuntu:

joakim_: ok

[08:22:39]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, :-)

[08:22:41]

frojnd:

oobe: 5 programs that I do with a TV :D

[08:22:59]

oobe:

yea but are they free to air

[08:23:09]

frojnd:

oobe: yeah

[08:23:16]

oobe:

then dont select cable

[08:24:59]

frojnd:

I mean we have to pay it... every citizen..

[08:25:05]

frojnd:

by default if wanna or not...

[08:25:50]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-92-101-150-80.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:26:12]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:26:39]

noaXess_kubuntu:

joakim_, oobe: no chnge, same problem

[08:27:20]

noaXess_kubuntu:

still can watch livetv on that channel

[08:27:38]

oobe:

is this a recent problem on an existing install or is this a fresh install

[08:27:52]

frojnd:

oobe: also I've noticed taht I have Channel management menu only if in input configuration under Change video source: is set to television

[08:28:43]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: on a existing install..

[08:28:58]

noaXess_kubuntu:

here is what mythtv-status say: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378306/

[08:29:57]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, hmmm.... are you using the default recording folder?

[08:30:00]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: this problem i have after rescanning all channels..

[08:30:31]

noaXess_kubuntu:

joakim_: /home/thomi/mythtv/Default and it works for all other channels

[08:31:01]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, so its only one reciver that dont record properly ?

[08:31:35]

noaXess_kubuntu:

joak leme test

[08:31:43]

oobe:

noaXess_kubuntu, try going to mythweb http://localhost/mythweb/settings/database and press the repair and optimise buttons

[08:33:34]

noaXess_kubuntu:

now all three dvb-c cards are recording and i can watch each show

[08:34:29]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, great :-)

[08:34:34]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: should is stop recordings?

[08:37:01]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[08:37:32]

_tux (_tux!~Miranda@mnch-4d045ff9.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:37:51]

_tux (_tux!~Miranda@mnch-4d045ff9.pool.mediaWays.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[08:37:55]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:38:21]

oobe:

noaXess_kubuntu, no

[08:38:38]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: done.. test again

[08:38:54]

oobe:

noaXess_kubuntu, so you can watch recordings now

[08:39:10]

oobe:

already but that one channel still causes problems?

[08:40:39]

vanksi:

2 questions: does the normal recording settings just dump the raw stream to a mpeg container (no loss what so ever)? does anyone know a good tutorial to automatically transcode dvb recordings to xvids? i would like to retain the AR and use target sizes by lenght of the recording and cut commercials out

[08:41:43]

noaXess_kubuntu:

oobe: always same problem, can record on that channel but livetv works.. on other channels i can record, whatch and livetv

[08:41:45]

oobe:

vanksi, yes it does dump to to raw stream

[08:42:14]

noaXess_kubuntu:

sorry cant record i mean

[08:42:30]

oobe:

there is a program called nuvexport for transcoding recordings to avid with avi containers or nuv or mp4

[08:42:33]

vanksi:

and another question, is it possible to cut the "main" program automatically from a recording that contains end of another program and commercials and the "main" program, ie. (end of another prog)-(commercials)-(Main prog, part1)-(commercials)-(main prog, part 2)?

[08:42:47]

vanksi:

oobe, thanks, ill look into that

[08:43:14]

oobe:

but mythtv can nativly auto transcodes to xvid like video with nuv container

[08:43:51]

oobe:

yes its also possible to edit out all the commercials then re transcode

[08:44:21]

oobe:

fyi nuvexport can use transcode and mencoder which are popular apps for ripping

[08:50:03]

oobe:

vanksi, you can also do lossless transcoding with your mpeg2 streams to cut out ads but maintain quality

[08:50:32]

oobe:

then rip using nuvexport to make a perfect little xvid divx or h.264 rip

[08:51:17]

oobe:

noaXess_kubuntu, i would try rescanning later on since that was the source of your problem

[08:51:49]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-92-101-150-80.vologda.ru) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[08:52:32]

joakim_:

vanksi, I used this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346778

[08:53:06]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[08:53:57]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:54:43]

noaXess_kubuntu:

ok.. will come back later.. test some things

[08:54:51]

noaXess_kubuntu (noaXess_kubuntu!~chatzilla@gw.ptr-80-238-209-47.customer.ch.netstream.com) has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534])

[08:55:31]

joakim_:

noaXess_kubuntu, not sure what kind of reciver card you have but I have a Novo t-500 and some time that card needs a cold boot in order to work. and when it does I turn of the machine and unplug the power cord leave it for about 5 min and the reconnect the power cord and boot it up again

[09:08:13]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[09:08:22]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:57:23]

jokajak is now known as jokajak_gone

[09:58:43]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:00:38]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has quit (Client Quit)

[10:00:58]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:06:00]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has quit (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)

[10:06:20]

jokajak_gone (jokajak_gone!~jokajak@r83h51.res.gatech.edu) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[10:08:26]

JJ1 (JJ1!~jjensen@jeffjensen.dsl.visi.com) has left #mythtv-users ()

[10:10:45]

sybolt (sybolt!~sybolt@sybolt.xs4all.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[10:14:07]

sybolt (sybolt!~sybolt@sybolt.xs4all.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:14:36]

joakim_:

see you all later, bfn

[10:14:43]

joakim_ (joakim_!~joakim@h252n1c1o253.bredband.skanova.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[10:17:16]

Ryushin (Ryushin!proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:20:37]

jst_ (jst_!~jst@174.12.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:20:48]

jst_:

Where can I find support for the Windows port of MythTV?

[10:22:01]

pat_ (pat_!~pat@203.171.82.242.static.rev.aanet.com.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[10:23:41]

oobe:

afaik there is no official support

[10:23:47]

oobe:

there is some docs

[10:24:05]

oobe:

but due to windows being crap its highly discouraged

[10:26:00]

pat_ (pat_!~pat@203.171.82.242.static.rev.aanet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:26:08]

jst_:

Ahh, I managed to get DirectX support working somehow. Took some tomfoolery, but it works, so nevermind. :)

[10:29:55]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@ppp118-209-162-204.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[10:35:33]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has quit (Quit: Leaving...)

[10:36:05]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:37:14]

Lollero_ (Lollero_!lollero@rrsite.com) has left #mythtv-users ()

[10:37:36]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has quit (Client Quit)

[10:37:56]

Lollero (Lollero!lollero@rrsite.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:38:11]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:39:58]

Hoxzer is now known as dassu

[10:40:49]

gbee (gbee!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust810.leic.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[10:42:58]

lepsie (lepsie!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:43:16]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has quit (Quit: Leaving...)

[10:43:33]

superdump (superdump!~rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2-dev)

[10:46:19]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:46:27]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[10:46:39]

poodyp (poodyp!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:47:03]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:47:03]

poodyp1 (poodyp1!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[10:50:26]

Ryushin (Ryushin!proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[10:50:27]

styelz (styelz!~yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[10:51:52]

styelz (styelz!~yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:56:09]

Dibblah (Dibblah!~Dibblah@cpc2-dund11-2-0-cust292.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:56:09]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v Dibblah

[10:56:55]

jst_:

Anyone heard anything about the status for NTSC support for the Hauppauge 1800 (cx23885, I believe)?

[11:02:21]

antgel (antgel!~topdog@89-139-180-75.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:03:00]

bobgill_ (bobgill_!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[11:05:38]

Ryushin (Ryushin!proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:07:00]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[11:07:21]

devinheitmueller (devinheitmueller!~dheitmuel@208.51.239.218) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:10:48]

vanksi:

hmm, my commercial flaggind doesn't seem to work at all

[11:11:03]

vanksi:

using 0.22 on ubuntu

[11:12:23]

vanksi:

mythcommflag --getskiplist returns QSqlDatabasePrivate::removeDatabase: connection 'DBManager0' is still in use, all queries will cease to work.

[11:17:34]

oobe:

jst_, i didnt know you used windows for myth i remember having a convo with you about wireless and that would of made a difference if i knew

[11:21:47]

jst_:

oobe, I use a Linux backend, and two frontends--one Linux and one Windows.

[11:30:23]

oobe:

oh ok did you get ur wireless fixed

[11:30:36]

J-e-f-f-A:

jst_: http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=551 might be a good start ... that page is a little old, but you may find more info on that site.

[11:31:18]

streeter (streeter!~streeter@nat/redhat/x-canbglhvtwinuslt) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:31:21]

J-e-f-f-A:

jst_: and: http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?cat=9

[11:34:50]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[11:35:36]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:35:55]

jst_:

J-e-f-f-A, thanks.

[11:36:57]

J-e-f-f-A:

jst_: Also, one of the developers hangs out here from time-to-time, so perhaps he'll chime in with more comments if he drops by. ;-)

[11:38:39]

** devinheitmueller 's ears are burning. **

[11:38:52]

** J-e-f-f-A laughs. ;-) **

[11:39:16]

devinheitmueller:

jst_: I saw your email. I just got in a few minutes ago and am just getting caught up now.

[11:42:09]

jst_:

devinheitmueller, cool. :)

[11:42:47]

jvs (jvs!~jvs@90.146.56.206) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:42:56]

janneg:

devinheitmueller: any progress on the HVR-950q in mythtv?

[11:43:20]

devinheitmueller:

janneg: I have a pretty good idea what the problem is, but haven't had a chance to nail down the actual fix in the driver.

[11:43:51]

devinheitmueller:

The real problem is I don't have any documentation on the power management for the au8522, so I have to reverse engineer the proper bits related to those three registers.

[11:44:55]

devinheitmueller:

I also uncovered a really nasty bug related to the fact that the same chip does both the analog decoding and is the digital demod, but that should only require a one line fix.

[11:45:06]

devinheitmueller:

janneg: do you actually have a 950q?

[11:45:41]

janneg:

devinheitmueller: but the digital side is properly shutdown with active eit scanning disabled and dvb on demand on?

[11:45:50]

devinheitmueller:

I haven't checked, but I suspect it is.

[11:46:09]

devinheitmueller:

I got sidetracked on "something else" that sucked up my whole weekend.

[11:46:42]

janneg:

no, I was just thinking that changes we need to make hybrid work properly

[11:47:04]

baffle_ is now known as baffle

[11:47:21]

devinheitmueller:

Oh, well at this point I am just going to tell everybody to turn off EIT. But yeah, seems like a pretty huge deficiency in the architecture to not have the EIT scanner take input groups into account.

[11:47:47]

devinheitmueller:

... and combined with the lack of driver-level locking, could cause all sorts of messiness with lots of different drivers.

[11:48:46]

vanksi:

what table in the db stores the cutlists?

[11:49:11]

janneg:

I suspect the problem is more like not shutting down the eitscanner if the analog side is used

[11:49:12]

vanksi:

i ran 'mythcommflag --getcutlist 1003_20100217105500.mpg' and now i would like to see the cutpoints

[11:49:13]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:49:43]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[11:49:44]

devinheitmueller:

janneg: yes, I suspect that is *exactly* the problem. The issue in more generic terms though is that the eitscanner should not be running at all if the input group is in use.

[11:50:16]

janneg:

vanksi: recerdedmarkup but mythcommflag --getcutlist should return the cutpoints

[11:50:48]

devinheitmueller:

I suspect the current eitscanner code is checking whether the *input* is in use when in fact it should be checking if the *inputgroup* is in use.

[11:51:02]

wagnerrp:

janneg: just disable EIT all together for US frequency tables

[11:51:04]

wagnerrp:

:P

[11:51:18]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:51:34]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: the problem isn't specific to the US. There are plenty of non-US hybrid tuners.

[11:51:44]

wagnerrp:

yeah, i know

[11:51:52]

vanksi:

janneg, that returns "No program data exists for channel at" and "QSqlDatabasePrivate::removeDatabase: connection 'DBManager0' is still in use, all queries will cease to work."

[11:52:01]

Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!~Josh_Bork@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[11:52:06]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: Although admittedly that is a solution that would satisfy most of *my* user base.

[11:53:44]

vanksi:

janneg, well "select * from recordedmarkup;" "28 rows in set (0.00 sec)" so i got some markups

[11:54:20]

wagnerrp:

thats only enough for a couple recording

[11:54:25]

vanksi:

how can i confirm that the comm flagging is or isnt working? i get no indication on how to jump through commercials in the frontend when they start

[11:54:27]

janneg:

vanksi: you're missing a -f or --file

[11:54:28]

vanksi:

wagnerrp, i got 3

[11:54:40]

wagnerrp:

sounds about right

[11:55:14]

vanksi:

now i'd just like to know how to cut out those commercials from that recording :)

[11:55:39]

wagnerrp:

open edit mode (e), load the skiplist (z)

[11:55:41]

vanksi:

preferably from the command line

[11:56:01]

vanksi:

wagnerrp, on the frontend?

[11:56:22]

wagnerrp:

yes, when watching a recording

[11:57:59]

ramindia (ramindia!~balajibhr@96-10.southernonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:58:06]

vanksi:

brilliang

[11:58:10]

ramindia:

hi all, iam setting up with mythtv with Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)

[11:58:15]

vanksi:

s/g/t/, it does work

[11:58:38]

wagnerrp:

ramindia: but what is your tuner card?

[11:58:45]

vanksi:

ramindia, i did that yesterday, but it was re 50

[11:59:19]

vanksi:

nevermind, it was "Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)"

[11:59:58]

ramindia:

when i do lspci "01:06.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)

[11:59:58]

ramindia:

"

[12:00:25]

wagnerrp:

ramindia: but what is your tuner card?

[12:00:33]

wagnerrp:

the brand and model

[12:05:39]

ramindia:

i need to open the box and see what card it is..2min

[12:06:00]

wagnerrp:

you didnt purchase the card?

[12:06:25]

devinheitmueller:

Usually the brand and model are printed on the *outside* of the box. :-)

[12:06:32]

wagnerrp:

he means computer case

[12:06:34]

ramindia:

ok i got the box in hand

[12:06:35]

devinheitmueller:

oh.

[12:06:47]

devinheitmueller:

yeah, duh.

[12:06:48]

devinheitmueller:

;-)

[12:06:56]

ramindia:

on the box it says super digitalvideo dazzle series

[12:07:17]

ramindia:

PAL B/G

[12:07:25]

devinheitmueller:

All your base are belong to us!

[12:07:30]

ramindia:

its quite old on..i have not used..

[12:08:35]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: did u get that model, what i was mentioned

[12:09:28]

wagnerrp:

thats a tuner card? i remember a 'dazzle' line of flash card readers and analog capture devices

[12:09:31]

devinheitmueller:

ramindia: sounds like the one of the random no-name saa713x cards out there. Send some email to linux-media, and Hermann will probably try to help you out.

[12:09:33]

wagnerrp:

but dont remember ever seeing a tuner

[12:09:57]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: "http://www.fixya.com/support/t1698139-need_tv . . . dazzle"

[12:10:20]

ramindia:

devinheitmueller: this is the card mentioned above webpage

[12:10:58]

devinheitmueller:

Yeah, it's a generic card design, sold by many different tiny companies under different names.

[12:11:14]

devinheitmueller:

Email linux-media, and Hermann would probably be able to help you.

[12:11:28]

ramindia:

linux-media ?

[12:11:32]

wagnerrp:

anyway... http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa713x_devices

[12:11:51]

devinheitmueller:

ramindia: the linux-media mailing list: http://linuxtv.org/lists.php

[12:11:53]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[12:11:56]

wagnerrp:

if youre lucky, your card may be one of the manu/model numbers already picked up by the driver

[12:12:12]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: how can i check that ?

[12:12:16]

wagnerrp:

if not, it may be as simple as adding that information so the driver recognizes it

[12:12:42]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: if the driver already loaded, how can i check ?

[12:12:49]

devinheitmueller:

ramindia: plug in the card and see if there is a /dev/video0.

[12:13:02]

devinheitmueller:

ramindia: run: lsmod | grep saa7134

[12:13:12]

wagnerrp:

and 'lspci -vnn'

[12:13:31]

devinheitmueller:

lspci won't really tell you though if a driver got loaded.

[12:13:39]

devinheitmueller:

It will only tell you if the hardware was found on the PCI bus.

[12:13:41]

wagnerrp:

the second line should have something like '[0070:7911]'

[12:13:56]

stoth_ (stoth_!~stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:14:22]

stoth is now known as Guest35337

[12:14:24]

ramindia:

wait iam going to paste the output

[12:14:33]

stoth_ is now known as stoth

[12:14:34]

wagnerrp:

use a pastebin

[12:15:09]

ramindia:

why myth pastebin taking long time to resolve

[12:15:23]

wagnerrp:

its had problems for a month or so

[12:15:32]

wagnerrp:

all of pastebin.ca has

[12:15:36]

antgel (antgel!~topdog@89-139-180-75.bb.netvision.net.il) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[12:15:56]

ramindia:

even pastebin.ca have same issue

[12:16:03]

wagnerrp:

yes...

[12:16:26]

skd5aner:

must be related to the olympics ;)

[12:16:53]

skd5aner:

Canada can't handle copy and paste, and winter games on the same "tubes"

[12:16:58]

wagnerrp:

only if the olympics started well over a month ago

[12:17:02]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: at last iam success with .org "http://pastebin.org/93107"

[12:20:17]

wagnerrp:

its not listed in the drivers... but this page seems to indicate it works... http://www.wlug.org.nz/pci/1131:7130

[12:20:40]

wagnerrp:

however thats almost 5 years old, and you probably dont need to specify the tuner and card options any longer

[12:21:36]

skd5aner:

hmmm, this is interesting: http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythtv

[12:21:49]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:22:24]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: i have like this in xbmc config "options saa7134-alsa index=-2

[12:22:45]

ramindia:

what iam doing here is iam integrating mythtv with xbmc

[12:23:00]

skd5aner:

getting 50–75% less searches for "mythtv" than near it's peak

[12:23:04]

wagnerrp:

ramindia: i dont konw why you would.... xbmc does not support tuner cards

[12:23:12]

wagnerrp:

nor does it manage loading kernel drivers

[12:23:31]

superdump (superdump!~rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:23:36]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: xbmc not directly support, it uses myth tv and connect

[12:23:57]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@65-121-75-131.dia.static.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:24:00]

wagnerrp:

yes, but xbmc shouldnt even be aware of your tuner card

[12:24:11]

wagnerrp:

much less have the kernel module configuration

[12:24:31]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: i already have this line. can i add one more line as mentioned in the URL

[12:24:39]

skd5aner:

Hmm, even more interesting: http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythtv%2C+xbmc . . . l&sort=0

[12:24:43]

devinheitmueller:

ramindia: looks like the driver loaded ok. Do you have a /dev/video0 entry?

[12:24:54]

ramindia:

devinheitmueller: yes i see

[12:24:55]

wagnerrp:

ramindia: not in any config file for xbmc

[12:24:58]

wagnerrp:

thats the wrong place

[12:25:04]

devinheitmueller:

ramindia: well, that's a good sign.

[12:25:06]

ramindia:

/dev/video0

[12:25:07]

natanojl (natanojl!~jonatan@c83-252-238-84.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:25:12]

devinheitmueller:

ramindia: have you tried capturing video?

[12:25:17]

wagnerrp:

if you have /dev/video0, youre probably all set

[12:25:28]

wagnerrp:

open tvtime, or something similar

[12:25:48]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:26:10]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: give me 5min.. brb

[12:28:52]

wagnerrp:

skd5aner: the user base has gone up considerably since 0.22... http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mythtv.org#trafficstats

[12:28:55]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: since it was not working i have removed and setup fresh PC, so i need to recompile or install fresh installation, so i will take some time, is there any best method to install over ubuntu

[12:29:28]

wagnerrp:

seems theres a surprising number of russian users

[12:30:11]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@65-121-75-131.dia.static.qwest.net) has quit (Quit: RyeBrye)

[12:33:21]

abqjp (abqjp!~abqjp@97-119-165-158.albq.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:33:52]

DixitDominus:

in soviet russia traffic uses you

[12:37:01]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@129.62.151.66) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:40:08]

rgd (rgd!~rgd@81.144.136.164) has quit (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net)

[12:41:49]

olejl (olejl!~olejl@95.175.76.243) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:44:09]

ramindia:

wagnerrp: looks like downloading bit slow.. as soon it downloaded and installed. i will be here

[12:55:01]

fclausen (fclausen!~fclausen@213.244.186.121) has left #mythtv-users ()

[12:56:49]

stuartm (stuartm!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust810.leic.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[12:57:09]

hashbang (hashbang!~hashbang@cse-ajb.cse.bris.ac.uk) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[12:57:41]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[12:57:46]

denken (denken!~denken@65.171.150.212) has left #mythtv-users ()

[12:58:58]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:00:00]

Ryushin (Ryushin!proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit (Quit: Client exiting)

[13:00:01]

DjMadness (DjMadness!~quassel@pdpc/supporter/student/DjMadness) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:00:18]

DjMadness_ (DjMadness_!~quassel@0x5552d9c6.adsl.cybercity.dk) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[13:01:53]

skd5aner:

wagnerrp: Russian users? or traffic coming out of Russion

[13:01:56]

skd5aner:

Russia

[13:04:59]

jst_:

Can anyone recommend a simple USB capture card that works with NTSC?

[13:05:08]

jst_:

(Preferably, one made by Hauppauge)

[13:05:34]

devinheitmueller:

jst_: HVR-950q?

[13:05:48]

jst_:

Ohh, is NTSC working for that?

[13:05:50]

devinheitmueller:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices

[13:06:03]

jst_:

Thanks (again). :)

[13:06:06]

devinheitmueller:

Yeah, the NTSC is working, with a couple of mythtv related constraints.

[13:06:18]

skd5aner:

Also, increased traffic to mythtv.org after a release doesn't necessarily mean a greater user base, correct?

[13:06:19]

devinheitmueller:

(that was how I spent last January and February)

[13:06:32]

skd5aner:

I mean – I had to go to mythtv.org and download the new version :)

[13:06:57]

christ_ (christ_!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[13:07:06]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[13:07:07]

devinheitmueller:

If you plan to use the 950q with MythTV though, there is an issue toggling back and forth between ATSC and NTSC mode, and you need to make sure you explicitly set the capture resolution to 720x480.

[13:07:15]

devinheitmueller:

(the second part is a MythTV bug)

[13:07:29]

christ_ (christ_!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:08:02]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:09:19]

jst_:

devinheitmueller, if the 950q has some minor issues, should I go ahead and purchase the ATI TV Wonder HD 600 USB in its place?

[13:09:54]

wagnerrp:

if you want to use it with mythtv and NTSC, you probably shouldnt get either

[13:10:45]

jst_:

Hmm. I just need something cheap for an extra NTSC input. My PCI and PCIe cards are maxed out.

[13:11:06]

jst_:

Err, scratch that. I have one PCIe slot open.

[13:11:12]

devinheitmueller:

jst_: Well, the 950q does ATSC and QAM, whereas the 600 only does ATSC.

[13:11:47]

devinheitmueller:

I personally think the 950q is a better tuner (it has an xc5000 as opposed to the 600's xc3028), but the 600 has a little more mature of a driver.

[13:12:07]

devinheitmueller:

(and in the interest of not appearing biased, I actually did the driver support for both products)

[13:12:57]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp makes a good point though in terms of performance. Neither of the cards has an MPEG encoder, so if you plan on recording video, it will be more computationally expensive.

[13:13:16]

devinheitmueller:

The only product I know of that is USB and has an MPEG encoder is the HVR-1950.

[13:13:16]

jst_:

Ok.

[13:13:26]

devinheitmueller:

... which is a bit on the pricey side.

[13:14:03]

jst_:

I should probably just bite the bullet and buy an HDPVR already.

[13:14:31]

jst_:

No chance that those Ceton CableCard readers will work outside of Vista/7, right?

[13:14:35]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-95-53-212-159.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:14:38]

grndslm (grndslm!~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:14:52]

devinheitmueller:

jst_: almost certainly no.

[13:17:12]

wagnerrp:

correct

[13:17:42]

wagnerrp:

cablecard licensing requires that the program support end-to-end encryption

[13:17:50]

wagnerrp:

something you cannot provide in an open source application

[13:18:04]

AndyCap:

not in a tamper-resistant way at least

[13:18:55]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[13:19:01]

skd5aner:

Also, someone has to "purchase" that license – and in the linux world, which "body" would do that?

[13:19:49]

skd5aner:

Microsoft can easily do that as they can be responsible for the license on the windows platform, I wouldn't expect that canonical could do the same (open source or not)

[13:20:01]

skd5aner:

and I doubt they would sell the license directly to the end-user

[13:20:18]

skd5aner:

or Red Hat, etc

[13:20:46]

AndyCap:

skd5aner: well, I'm sure there are a number of cablecard implementations being planned or running on linux. :)

[13:20:49]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@ip503c5f35.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[13:20:59]

AndyCap:

on sony, samsung, philips etc.

[13:21:00]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:21:10]

skd5aner:

AndyCap: you mean on closed-source STBs?

[13:21:19]

skd5aner:

running linux based kernels or something?

[13:21:20]

wagnerrp:

i believe tivo has always been linux

[13:21:24]

wagnerrp:

skd5aner: correct

[13:21:25]

AndyCap:

skd5aner: partially closed yes.

[13:21:54]

skd5aner:

yea, but those are commercial entities that can make money on the direct sell of those STBs

[13:21:59]

AndyCap:

skd5aner: so even if you get the source you can't be allowed to modify the running code

[13:22:25]

wagnerrp:

but you cant see that specific portion of the code

[13:22:31]

skd5aner:

right

[13:22:34]

wagnerrp:

as that code contains the keys to the whole system

[13:22:42]

wagnerrp:

if you saw the code, the DRM is globally broken

[13:23:03]

AndyCap:

uhh. not exactly, but yeah, you can't get the secret keys

[13:23:40]

wagnerrp:

i was presuming the keys would be included in that

[13:23:40]

AndyCap:

then again, the failing of DRM is. Recipient === Attacker

[13:24:13]

AndyCap:

wagnerrp: somehow I suspect the keys are read from some memory device, not compiled in.

[13:24:38]

AndyCap:

or you'd have to compile a new firmware for every box you ship

[13:25:09]

wagnerrp:

is it a separate key for each box?

[13:25:28]

AndyCap:

wagnerrp: for cablecard I don't know, but that is my understanding of CI+

[13:25:33]

KraMer (KraMer!~mark@2002:46f0:bab3:0:215:f2ff:fef4:4288) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:27:34]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[13:28:02]

thefRont (thefRont!xelerator@suffers.from.internal-bleeding.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:28:28]

jarle (jarle!~jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:28:43]

vanksi:

is it possible to use VBR MP3 audio or just crop 1 px from the top with nuvexport?

[13:29:04]

vanksi:

target is xvid

[13:29:46]

MartinJT (MartinJT!~martin@109.170.141.132) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[13:29:50]

skd5aner:

vanksi – I don't belive the scripts will allow those settings out of the box, but you can easily edit the xvid.pm script to allow for those features

[13:30:13]

skd5aner:

also, you can specify 0.1 for the crop percentage

[13:30:20]

skd5aner:

that'll take off just a few pixels

[13:31:04]

skd5aner:

not sure about the VBR for the audio – that'll probably take changes to the command line in the script

[13:31:49]

AndyCap:

wagnerrp: not clear on Host_ID in the spec being unique per device or product, but it looks like it's unique for each box. (And it's a X.509 certificate)

[13:33:55]

vanksi:

skd5aner, ok, ill look into it, where's xvid.pm located?

[13:36:42]

AndyCap:

oh great, Validity is not greater than 30 years. so that means my tv would expire soon if it were a cablecard device.

[13:38:24]

SirColin (SirColin!~sircolin@my83-216-68-241.mynow.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:40:31]

skd5aner:

vanksi: depends, if you're using ffmpeg, mine is located in: /usr/local/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg/XviD.pm

[13:40:50]

skd5aner:

if transcode, it's under ../export/transcode/

[13:42:19]

gbee_ (gbee_!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust810.leic.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:42:20]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v gbee_

[13:46:14]

gbee_:

wagnerrp: people are reporting success with PCI + vdpau + 1080 h.264? I'm a little dubious, one of the reasons IGPs + AMD cpus have problems is the reduced bus at low clock speeds, can PCI really deliver?

[13:47:37]

wagnerrp:

gbee_: i was doing HDDVD and BR rips over a 8400 PCI on an old 800MHz P3

[13:49:26]

AndyCap:

isn't pci stuck at 33 or 66Mhz regardless?

[13:49:58]

wagnerrp:

sure, but the bus can push 133MB/s, compared to the 5MB/s of maximum bitrate bluray

[13:50:27]

Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!~jepz@g224104005.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:50:31]

** AndyCap was just wondering why PCI would do worse with low clock speeds. **

[13:52:10]

gbee_:

AndyCap: PCI-E, and for all I know, only IGPs, when AMD processors scale the frequency down to 1000Mhz the bus speed drops to a level where it causes problems for VDPAU

[13:52:47]

AndyCap:

gbee_: so PCI-E and not PCI then.

[13:53:09]

oobe:

wagnerrp, im thinking about getting a pci 8400 for my p4 frontend what one are u using

[13:53:53]

wagnerrp:

Sparkle fanless 512MB G98

[13:54:21]

gbee_:

AndyCap: just questioning whether PCI with it's 133MB/s is still fast than a restricted PCI-E bus which starts out at upwards of 4GB/s, seems unlikely that the frequency scaling would cut the bus speed to sub-PCI levels

[13:54:32]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[13:54:50]

oobe:

this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187042

[13:55:13]

superdump (superdump!~rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2-dev)

[13:55:13]

AndyCap:

gbee_: nah, but I guess it could really mess up timing if something tries to deliver just in time.

[13:55:17]

wagnerrp:

looks like it

[13:55:21]

oobe:

thats the one i was thinking about

[13:55:23]

wagnerrp:

not the most robust of cards

[13:55:29]

gbee_:

5MB/s seems low btw? broadcast h.264 comes in at ~10MB/s

[13:55:30]

wagnerrp:

the first one worked for the UI

[13:55:34]

wagnerrp:

but would crash on VDPAU

[13:55:48]

oobe:

first one?

[13:55:49]

wagnerrp:

replacement worked fine, for the couple months i used it before replacing it

[13:55:54]

oobe:

ok

[13:56:04]

oobe:

shit

[13:56:10]

oobe:

3 same model

[13:56:26]

wagnerrp:

oobe: i just ended up replacing the machine with a new one and a 8200

[13:56:44]

wagnerrp:

$200 for the full upgrade, versus $50 for the card

[13:56:45]

oobe:

im using a 5200fx it can do 1080 @60 which i found it is unusual

[13:56:57]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-95-53-212-159.vologda.ru) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[13:56:57]

wagnerrp:

gbee_: where do you get video in at 80mbps?

[13:56:58]

bpgoldsb (bpgoldsb!~bpgoldsb@ip24-250-198-162.ga.at.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:57:15]

oobe:

but some media makes it a bit loud and i dont like using xvmc and of course cant use it for a lot of things

[13:57:37]

bpgoldsb:

Can anyone recommend a tuner card that has hardware encoding, NTSC, and is PCI-E?

[13:57:45]

oobe:

im using a sff case

[13:57:52]

bpgoldsb:

(and works in linux unlike my HVR-2250)

[13:57:53]

oobe:

so i cant change the mobo

[13:58:05]

wagnerrp:

bpgoldsb: the 1800 fits the bill, but NTSC on that card has issues with mythtv

[13:58:29]

oobe:

i heard some of the new onboard nvidia hdmi work well with alsa so that's worth thinking about

[13:58:35]

wagnerrp:

or if you feel up to it, you could take a stab at the NTSC driver for the 2250

[13:58:39]

bpgoldsb:

wagnerrp: the same issues as the 2250? i.e. not analog support at all

[13:58:46]

wagnerrp:

the 2250 has no driver at all

[13:58:55]

wagnerrp:

the 1800/1850 has an issue between the driver and mythtv

[13:59:11]

bpgoldsb:

I used the one from the linuxtv hg repo for the 2250, and digital video works.

[13:59:14]

devinheitmueller:

bpgoldsb: the 2250 driver has no analog support. The 1800 has analog support, but there is a bug that is exposed by mythtv.

[13:59:28]

bpgoldsb:

How serious of a bug are we talking? Got a link?

[13:59:40]

gbee_:

wagnerrp: sorry, guess my brain's asleep today, I read that as Mb/s even as I typed MB/s

[13:59:41]

oobe:

i changed my dvi to hdmi cable for a agp cable wagnerrp remember i was looking at converters reason why is the audio wont come out of the speakers unless im using pc input on the tv

[13:59:53]

oobe:

so hdmi with audio would be a nice feature

[13:59:58]

devinheitmueller:

bpgoldsb: the net result of the issue is that the analog is basically broken under Myth.

[14:00:27]

devinheitmueller:

It's on my todo list to fix it, but I've been tied up with too many other projects.

[14:00:33]

bpgoldsb:

And if I didn't have hardware encoding, the backend would be doing it, not the frontend, right?

[14:00:48]

devinheitmueller:

bpgoldsb: correct. The backend will do software encoding.

[14:01:25]

bpgoldsb:

Is there a functional PCI-E card w/ working NTSC card that doesn't have an encoder?

[14:02:14]

devinheitmueller:

not really. Pretty much all the single tuner PCIe designs are based on cx23885 driver, and they all have the same bug.

[14:02:41]

bpgoldsb:

Well, I guess I'll return my 2250 and see if I can find a PVR-500

[14:03:09]

kormoc (kormoc!~kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:03:09]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc

[14:03:15]

bpgoldsb:

Thanks for the advice

[14:03:35]

devinheitmueller:

bpgoldsb: Sure, let Hauppauge pay the price for your not taking the time to look up Linux support before making your purchase.

[14:04:57]

Prost (Prost!prost@who.knows.what.possessed.us) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[14:05:00]

Prost (Prost!prost@who.knows.what.possessed.us) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:05:35]

skd5aner:

or just blame devinheitmueller for not fixing it already ;) j/k

[14:05:40]

bpgoldsb:

Ya, I guess I was foolish to think a company that had a good track record of linux support would continue to have it. What was I thinking.

[14:05:42]

clever (clever!~clever@142.167.121.99) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:06:13]

devinheitmueller:

bpgoldsb: Yeah, since they have never officially contributed to Linux, that would be pretty foolish.

[14:06:14]

kormoc:

bpgoldsb: when they're not always able to provide support, it's hardly their fault...

[14:06:38]

lydgate_:

I've got a hauppauge wintv nova-t pci, and the remote shows up as a keyboard, which is great. I've just got a harmony remote, and was wondering whether it's possible to map more keys than are on the original hauppauge remote? or is it limited to those

[14:06:47]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:07:02]

devinheitmueller:

lydgate_: Yeah, it will work with lirc. You just need to setup the lirc profile properly.

[14:07:21]

lydgate_:

devinheitmueller: so if I set up lirc, I can add an arbitrary number of keys?

[14:07:24]

devinheitmueller:

You cannot really use the in-kernel input device mapping to work with artibrary remotes.

[14:07:37]

devinheitmueller:

... so you will use lirc instead of the in-kernel mapping.

[14:07:42]

lydgate_:

ah ok

[14:08:05]

lydgate_:

so do I have to somehow disable the kernel method? or will setting up lirc override it

[14:08:15]

devinheitmueller:

setting up lirc should override it.

[14:08:28]

lydgate_:

ok

[14:08:33]

devinheitmueller:

lydgate_: there is actually a page on the linuxtv.org wiki that talks about setting up lirc for use with the nova-t 500.

[14:08:52]

lydgate_:

devinheitmueller: great, I'll have a look

[14:08:57]

lydgate_:

is it quite hard to setup?

[14:09:20]

devinheitmueller:

Depends on whom you ask. I have generally found getting *anything* to work with lirc to be a bitch.

[14:09:27]

lydgate_:

right

[14:09:35]

lydgate_:

i've tried to avoid it thusfar

[14:09:44]

lydgate_:

but it's either that or buy another IR receiver which seems silly

[14:09:49]

devinheitmueller:

that said, doing it for the nova-t shouldn't be any harder than any other product.

[14:10:15]

lydgate_:

ok thanks that's really helpful

[14:10:38]

devinheitmueller:

np

[14:10:53]

lydgate_:

i've set up some tedious things in my day, at least this one will have a nice payoff

[14:11:30]

devinheitmueller:

Yeah, I hear good things about the Harmony remote. Good luck!

[14:12:27]

lydgate_:

I've got the Harmony One, apart from the clunky Windows configuration utility it's pretty much ideal

[14:12:54]

lydgate_:

I haven't messed with the linux drivers, just run winblows in virtualbox

[14:14:54]

LedHed (LedHed!~LedHed@static-74-45-162-66.dr01.pasn.ca.frontiernet.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:20:01]

lydgate_ (lydgate_!~lydgate@cpc10-dals15-2-0-cust22.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) has quit (Quit: leaving)

[14:23:22]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@79.173.154.114) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[14:38:51]

Slim-Kimbo (Slim-Kimbo!~Kimbo@host86-146-1-15.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:40:30]

gbee_ (gbee_!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust810.leic.cable.ntl.com) has left #mythtv-users ("Gone")

[14:42:14]

LedHed (LedHed!~LedHed@static-74-45-162-66.dr01.pasn.ca.frontiernet.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[14:44:22]

SirColin (SirColin!~sircolin@my83-216-68-241.mynow.co.uk) has left #mythtv-users ()

[14:50:22]

alexvd__ (alexvd__!~alexvd@pool-98-109-132-60.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:56:54]

MooingLe1ur is now known as MooingLemur

[15:06:44]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:06:44]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stoffel

[15:15:35]

stoffel (stoffel!~quassel@p57B4DFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[15:19:34]

fleers_ (fleers_!~fleers@cpe-76-93-149-51.san.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[15:37:12]

oobe (oobe!~none@insidiousramblings.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[15:39:11]

vanksi:

i'm stuck running "/usr/bin/mythtranscode --showprogress -p '29' -c '1003' -s '2010-02–17T10:55:00' -f "/tmp/fifodir_31038/" --honorcutlist" in nuvexport, it just idles after outputting "2010-02–17 21:16:03.895 Using protocol version 50"

[15:39:27]

MartinJT (MartinJT!~martin@109.170.141.132) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:45:01]

lydgate (lydgate!~lydgate@unaffiliated/lydgate) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:45:09]

lydgate:

I have a harmony remote, can I add more keys than my hauppauge remote has and still use the same IR receiver with lirc? or am I better off getting a generic/MCE IR receiver?

[15:45:46]

lydgate:

devinheitmueller said lirc could learn new buttons but it's not obvious how this would work... at least it seems it can only pick up the hauppauge signals

[15:55:14]

unixSnob (unixSnob!~unixSnob@starfury.spearlink.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:59:44]

unixSnob (unixSnob!~unixSnob@starfury.spearlink.com) has quit (Client Quit)

[16:05:41]

inordkuo (inordkuo!~inorkuo@adsl-243-141-68.int.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:07:21]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@192.18.37.108) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:07:42]

vanksi:

i'm getting "mythtranscode died early.Please use the --debug option to figure out what went wrong." when doing nuvexport-xvid

[16:25:09]

paperclip (paperclip!~paperclip@ip72-204-175-205.no.no.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:32:20]

cdpuk (cdpuk!~chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:39:29]

gbee_ is now known as gbee

[16:42:32]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@ppp118-209-166-52.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit (Quit: lyricnz)

[16:50:06]

vanksi:

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1301087.html thats my exact problem

[16:54:07]

xaxes (xaxes!~xaxes|fre@www.foonative.org) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:01:25]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:03:54]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[17:08:20]

skd5aner:

vanksi – you should just be able to launch "nuvexport" then select xvid

[17:08:40]

skd5aner:

not sure that'll do anything for your problem though, just saying

[17:18:20]

XChatMav (XChatMav!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:19:06]

SirColin (SirColin!~sircolin@my83-216-68-241.mynow.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:21:30]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@129.62.151.66) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[17:22:21]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[17:32:24]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:33:43]

skd5aner:

also, are you using transcode, mencoder, or transcode?

[17:33:45]

dansushi (dansushi!~dan@147.4.211.193) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[17:34:39]

dansushi (dansushi!~dan@147.4.211.193) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:34:57]

XChatMav (XChatMav!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[17:39:54]

stoth (stoth!~stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[17:52:16]

natanojl (natanojl!~jonatan@c83-252-238-84.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[17:59:11]

jst_ (jst_!~jst@174.12.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[18:06:30]

Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!~jepz@g224104005.adsl.alicedsl.de) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[18:07:46]

grndslm (grndslm!~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[18:08:49]

cdpuk (cdpuk!~chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[18:10:31]

wagnerrp:

seems my HDHR is working properly under freebsd now

[18:10:46]

wagnerrp:

or at least a couple minutes of livetv seem to have worked

[18:11:13]

wagnerrp:

my MBE is a proper BE now

[18:11:26]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[18:11:50]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:15:06]

skd5aner:

wagnerrp: you running your production MBE systeom on freeBSD?

[18:17:32]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@rrcs-71-40-238-191.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:17:36]

wagnerrp:

uh huh

[18:18:24]

gbutters (gbutters!~gbutters@ip98-163-245-35.no.no.cox.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[18:21:46]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:21:54]

wagnerrp:

although freebsd suffers from a lack of tuner support

[18:22:55]

skd5aner:

yea – but apparently, all is well now with the HDHR?

[18:23:15]

wagnerrp:

i had it working fine ages ago with the HDHR

[18:23:26]

wagnerrp:

but some time during the 0.22 dev cycle, it stopped working all together

[18:23:28]

skd5aner:

i see... just curious

[18:23:36]

skd5aner:

:)

[18:24:18]

wagnerrp:

it was working again maybe 6–8 months ago, but i could only make 2–3 channel changes, or run for a minute or two, before it randomly dropped access

[18:24:21]

skd5aner:

any reason why you chose to run with FreeBSD for your MBE? Just for fun/To make sure it would work/to work on support/to torture yourself?

[18:25:02]

grndslm (grndslm!~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:25:05]

skd5aner:

my entry to *nix was on FreeBSD ~2001, haven't used it probably since 04/05'ish

[18:25:18]

wagnerrp:

i had been running freebsd as my main server for years before i started using mythtv

[18:26:03]

skd5aner:

yea – I was pretty comfortable with it at the time, I think myth (and a few other projects) is one of the main reasons I forced myself over to the linux world

[18:26:23]

wagnerrp:

since thats where the file storage was, it only made sense to offload as much of the backend tasks there as possible

[18:26:25]

skd5aner:

jumped from FreeBSD to Debian at the time

[18:26:53]

skd5aner:

yea – why not – if it works, even without tuners could make for a SBE

[18:27:27]

wagnerrp:

technically, there are some deficiencies that make a BE not function properly without tuners

[18:27:44]

wagnerrp:

i dont remember what specifically, off hand

[18:27:52]

skd5aner:

I think I recall hearing that... havne't experienced it myself

[18:28:05]

skd5aner:

both of mine have tuners, so...

[18:32:40]

Guest35337 is now known as stoth

[18:39:20]

wagnerrp:

well with all these slot-less atoms coming out, and independent SBE shutdown available

[18:39:30]

jvs (jvs!~jvs@90.146.56.206) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[18:39:32]

wagnerrp:

it makes more sense to be able to have a tunerless backend

[18:40:11]

wagnerrp:

i heard some discussion about possibly 'bloating' mythcommflag to include storage group and scheduler support

[18:42:52]

cynicismic (cynicismic!~rclark@94-194-202-107.zone8.bethere.co.uk) has quit (Quit: leaving)

[18:43:38]

skd5aner:

makes some sense

[18:44:02]

wagnerrp:

so you could have a little 10–15W 'backend' with spundown hard drives

[18:44:16]

wagnerrp:

which brings SBEs online as needed

[18:44:21]

skd5aner:

is mythcommflag threaded to take advantage of multiple processors/cores?

[18:44:43]

wagnerrp:

if it is, its no more than two threads

[18:44:49]

wagnerrp:

one for decoding, one for processing

[18:44:54]

wagnerrp:

but im thinking its all single threaded

[18:45:34]

skd5aner:

can you run multiple instances of mythcommflag?

[18:45:48]

wagnerrp:

yes

[18:46:05]

wagnerrp:

limited by the number of concurrent jobs you allowed the jobqueue to execute

[18:46:21]

skd5aner:

right, I knew about the job limit, but didn't know if mythcommflag itself was limited

[18:46:29]

Captain_Murdoch:

tunerless mythbackend will be supported a supported config, possibly by 0.24. I was looking at some of the code the other day and ahve been thinking of it as I work on the MFileSystemWatcher code.

[18:46:58]

skd5aner:

Captain_Murdoch: what "breaks" without a tuner assigned to a BE?

[18:47:06]

Captain_Murdoch:

remote storage reporting for one.

[18:47:24]

Captain_Murdoch:

possibly a few other things in teh master, I've not looked through all the code.

[18:47:39]

skd5aner:

k – thx

[18:48:15]

Captain_Murdoch:

nothing major, because there are people doing it, but I believe that storage ona tunerless slave is still not reported on. there are some people using tunerless slaves to serve up MythVideo files.

[18:48:17]

wagnerrp:

thats the bigger issue... it was never intended as such, so there will be unintended behavior

[18:48:54]

wagnerrp:

its currently more of a 'seems to work' config

[18:50:12]

PointyPumper (PointyPumper!~pintlezz@190.244.90.204) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:50:28]

Captain_Murdoch:

main issue is that the master's communication with slaves is via the 'encoder list', not using the complete client list and only looking at slaves. so when we ask slaves for their storage, we talk to remote encoders, not necessarily all slaves. there also may be one or two places in the master that don't work right without tuners, I thought I saw one the other day but need to investigate/test.

[18:51:01]

Captain_Murdoch:

sending events does work correctly, it may just be the storage part that I never considered when creating storage groups. :(

[18:52:04]

Captain_Murdoch:

I do plan on looking at it soon, because I like the concept of dropping a tunerless slave onto any server with storage and having it serve up media to frontend clients.

[18:57:22]

wagnerrp:

that would necessitate SG writes too, wouldnt it?

[18:57:43]

alexvd__ (alexvd__!~alexvd@pool-98-109-132-60.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[18:57:54]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[18:58:09]

wagnerrp:

AFAICT, recordings could be moved to SGs right now, and transcodes could be as soon as there is a 'move' function added?

[18:59:47]

streeter (streeter!~streeter@nat/redhat/x-canbglhvtwinuslt) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[19:01:57]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:07:59]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.183.147) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:08:44]

madLyfe (madLyfe!~madLyfe@173-20-220-11.client.mchsi.com) has quit ()

[19:09:34]

madLyfe (madLyfe!~madLyfe@173-20-220-11.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:11:33]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.183.147) has quit (Client Quit)

[19:23:02]

JJ (JJ!~jjensen@jeffjensen.dsl.visi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:25:17]

john___ (john___!~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-244.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:25:53]

john___:

posted this in ubuntu-mythtv without response, so trying again here hi, I have a winfast DTV2000H tv card which is not detected in mythbuntu-setup – the mythtv terminal has "cant open DVB frontend(/dev/dvb/adapter0/ frontend0) for /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 " any help?

[19:29:48]

wseltzer:

john___: does the card work in other applications?

[19:30:07]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@kalis.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:30:41]

john___:

I had it working before under mythbuntu but I reinstalled as I want to run without a graphics card

[19:30:59]

john___:

any applications to test with?

[19:32:00]

jduggan_ is now known as jduggan

[19:32:14]

wseltzer:

try mplayer, or the dvb-utils

[19:32:34]

devinheitmueller (devinheitmueller!~dheitmuel@208.51.239.218) has left #mythtv-users ()

[19:34:42]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[19:36:57]

john___:

not sure how to get either working?

[19:41:03]

wseltzer:

can you open a terminal and see if there are any messages about dvb when you run dmesg?

[19:43:07]

john___:

dmesg has lots of references to dvb and cx88xx, I managed to get dvb-utils to run a scan which picked up all the channels it should

[19:45:33]

wseltzer:

is there anything else that might be using the DVB card at the time?

[19:47:44]

bonelifer (bonelifer!HydraIRC@AC81FA9E.ipt.aol.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:47:50]

john___:

shouldnt be – clean install

[19:49:40]

wseltzer:

are you getting the message when running mythtv-setup? and have you stopped the backend before running setup?

[19:51:08]

alexvd__ (alexvd__!~alexvd@pool-98-109-132-60.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:52:13]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:54:17]

john___:

the message pops up in the mythtv setup terminal, backend is stopped

[19:56:13]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[19:56:26]

gbutters (gbutters!~gbutters@ip98-163-245-35.no.no.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:57:28]

john___:

for some reason the error goes away when I run sudo mythtv-setup

[19:58:50]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:02:54]

wseltzer:

sounds like a permissions problem. I haven't run into that, but see others making reference to udev, e.g. http://forums.dvbowners.com/lofiversion/index.php/t8080.html

[20:06:56]

john___:

looks like all is good now

[20:06:58]

john___:

thanks

[20:07:56]

wagnerrp:

john___: does /dev/dvb/adapter0/ exist?

[20:10:54]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@64.132.24.100) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[20:17:49]

john___:

yep

[20:20:24]

darkdrgn3k (darkdrgn3k!~darkdrgn2@bas2-toronto44-1242515082.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:20:33]

darkdrgn3k:

hey im getting really odd errors on my pvr150

[20:20:34]

darkdrgn3k:

ivtv0: DMA TIMEOUT 00000001 0

[20:20:42]

darkdrgn3k:

the last number sometimes is a 2

[20:22:25]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:24:06]

abqjp (abqjp!~abqjp@97-119-165-158.albq.qwest.net) has quit (Quit: abqjp)

[20:31:06]

gunni (gunni!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-251-185.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:31:12]

gunni_ (gunni_!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-250-39.netcologne.de) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[20:31:38]

utu (utu!~hax0r@c-24-12-169-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:31:39]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@192.18.37.108) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[20:31:50]

utu:

how can i fix my sound?

[20:31:53]

john___ (john___!~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-244.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au) has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054634])

[20:32:05]

utu:

i'm using kde 4.4 w\ pulseaudio and gstreamer backend

[20:32:36]

utu:

i have already recompiled archlinux's mythtv against pulseaudio lib

[20:32:55]

Wicked:

hello all i have a few questions about capture cards. i currently have a pvr-150 and i have comcast digital cable with a set top box that im using svideo out on to capture with my pvr. Im thinking of getting a new card but really am lost as to what i should get. If i get a ATSC/QAM card will i still need my stb?

[20:33:05]

utu:

fuckingpiece of shit mythtv

[20:33:09]

jolaren (jolaren!~joel@c-e5f4e555.015-160-73746f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:33:25]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@rrcs-71-40-238-191.sw.biz.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[20:34:01]

utu:

my hauppa. win tvr 1800 won't decrypt any comcast channels

[20:34:31]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o iamlindoro

[20:34:45]

Wicked:

so your using something like svideo to capture?

[20:34:58]

Wicked:

*from a stb

[20:35:08]

utu:

what's stb?

[20:35:14]

Wicked:

set top box. a cablebox

[20:35:18]

Mode for #mythtv-users by iamlindoro!~iamlindor@unaffiliated/iamlindoro : +q utu!*@*

[20:35:35]

Wicked:

:|

[20:35:43]

iamlindoro:

utu, I will unquiet you in a few minutes and you'll be allowed to speak again. Maybe then you'll be more civil.

[20:36:05]

vhann (vhann!~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:36:10]

iamlindoro:

Until then I suggest reading the channel rules in the topic, particularly those related to language and civility.

[20:36:39]

jolaren:

iamlindoro, I stated a notice to you regarding what I may ask and what not

[20:36:55]

iamlindoro:

why did you do that?

[20:37:10]

iamlindoro:

If you have a question and you're not repeating yourself within five minutes or breaking a channel rule, just ask it

[20:37:34]

vhann:

Hi, I can't find (nor remember) which package contains the 'v4l2-ctl' program on Debian Lenny. May someone tell me please?

[20:37:44]

jolaren:

Is it possible to configure mythbackend to use two adresses? One local (localhost) and one external?

[20:38:07]

iamlindoro:

jolaren, no, just one

[20:38:22]

jolaren:

hm

[20:38:44]

Mode for #mythtv-users by iamlindoro!~iamlindor@unaffiliated/iamlindoro : -q utu!*@*

[20:38:46]

fkfkfkfkd (fkfkfkfkd!~hax0r@c-24-12-169-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:38:49]

jolaren:

To bad! ;/ My laptop can't be connected via "lan" on wireless ;/

[20:38:51]

iamlindoro:

utu, please behave this time

[20:39:00]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -o iamlindoro

[20:39:09]

utu:

ok

[20:39:19]

fkfkfkfkd (fkfkfkfkd!~hax0r@c-24-12-169-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[20:39:23]

jolaren:

And my stationary is conencted via lan cable.. I don't want to use my entire internet connection just to watch tv.. cuz now my tv server is "online" which i dont like at all

[20:39:53]

jolaren:

guess I need a new router then

[20:39:55]

jolaren:

if it's not possible

[20:41:01]

utu:

what does "GetEntryAt(-1) failed. " mean? i can't get even watch livetv at all now: http://pastie.org/830008

[20:41:13]

iamlindoro:

It means you are reading the frontend log for a backend issue

[20:41:21]

iamlindoro:

ie, read the backend logs instead

[20:41:30]

sphex_ (sphex_!~nobody@modemcable072.42-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:42:02]

jolaren:

Would it not be possible to perhaps point the dns adress to localhost

[20:42:08]

jolaren:

and by that way make it read from localhost?

[20:42:30]

iamlindoro:

jolaren, Myth doesn't do name resolution

[20:42:32]

iamlindoro:

so no

[20:42:42]

iamlindoro:

the backend is bound to an IP, not a hostname

[20:42:57]

jolaren:

atm i've bound it to an dns

[20:43:02]

jolaren:

i understand

[20:43:03]

jolaren:

hum

[20:43:04]

jolaren:

;/

[20:43:28]

utu:

hmm ok, so it craps out when frontend is tuned to channel11, "DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) Error: SetChannelByString(11_1): CheckChannel failed." what should i do?

[20:43:59]

utu:

e.g. set it to channel 5 or 7 before i start it

[20:44:17]

cramblda (cramblda!~c6ec4019@gateway/web/freenode/x-fmthdkqewxkqkgna) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:44:18]

jolaren:

But you can watch other channels?

[20:44:21]

utu:

yes

[20:44:24]

jolaren:

Channel 11 is important to you?

[20:44:35]

jolaren:

I had a channel like that to called "Thompsson Download" or i.e

[20:44:35]

utu:

it has poor reception

[20:44:45]

jolaren:

It crapped my server out, made it crash

[20:44:48]

jolaren:

I removed it

[20:44:52]

jolaren:

and everythin worked fine

[20:45:12]

sphex (sphex!~nobody@modemcable072.42-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)

[20:45:34]

jolaren:

Do you know which channel 11 is?

[20:45:50]

cramblda (cramblda!~c6ec4019@gateway/web/freenode/x-fmthdkqewxkqkgna) has quit (Client Quit)

[20:46:10]

utu:

some local channel, i think pbs @ chicago

[20:46:27]

jolaren:

then I guess removing it is not really an option?

[20:46:53]

utu:

i'll just boot win7, it works out of the box and has sound

[20:47:06]

wagnerrp:

utu: mythtv does not support pulseaudio

[20:47:13]

wagnerrp:

that is why you have no sound

[20:47:13]

jolaren:

uhm

[20:47:30]

jolaren:

I had sound on my stationary.. was vista tho

[20:47:59]

utu:

pulseaudio is crap, but that's the only way i get sound in kde 4.4 using gstreamer backend

[20:48:16]

wagnerrp:

mythtv does not use gstreamer either

[20:48:35]

wagnerrp:

all you need is alsa, or oss, or jack, or i think it supports esound too

[20:49:25]

utu:

in theory alsa, hw:0,0 should work, i'll try it

[20:49:44]

jolaren:

btw iamlindoro if I want to add what I asked you about as a proposal to dev's where would I turn?

[20:50:10]

wagnerrp:

your backend exists on two separate networks?

[20:50:20]

wagnerrp:

youre using it as your router?

[20:50:54]

utu (utu!~hax0r@c-24-12-169-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[20:51:00]

jolaren:

wagnerrp, when I connect via wlan

[20:51:04]

jolaren:

i'm not in the "network"

[20:51:07]

jolaren:

localhost adress wont work

[20:51:09]

jolaren:

but an external will

[20:51:13]

jolaren:

if i connect with lan cable it works

[20:51:21]

jolaren:

prob is i dont want a cable in my bed

[20:51:29]

wagnerrp:

if you have a feature suggestion/request with no code to go along with it, there is a set of pages on the wiki for that

[20:51:34]

wagnerrp:

expect it to be ignored

[20:51:42]

jolaren:

expect?

[20:51:44]

jolaren:

oh

[20:51:45]

jolaren:

yeah

[20:51:54]

jolaren:

thought you wrote except, was going to correct you

[20:51:59]

jolaren:

to late in the night for me, hehe

[20:52:28]

wagnerrp:

if you are trying to connect to mythbackend from another network and find yourself incapable of doing so

[20:52:32]

wagnerrp:

you need to fix your routing

[20:52:40]

jolaren:

i guess

[20:52:48]

jolaren:

but 1 comp online would be okay

[20:52:59]

jolaren:

but i dont want my stationary and my laptop to go online

[20:53:37]

wagnerrp:

then you need to set up a VPN to put wireless machines on your local network

[20:55:02]

jolaren:

would that work? would not that set pressure on my srv

[20:55:27]

wagnerrp:

explain your network layout

[20:56:09]

Wicked:

anyone here have a Hauppauge HVR-2250? im looking around and that seems like a nice card.

[20:56:36]

wagnerrp:

Wicked: fine for digital, but it has no analog support

[20:56:37]

jolaren:

a switch"router" box.. a network cord between my stationary computer and the switch/router.. then wlan from my laptop to my router/switch

[20:57:19]

wagnerrp:

so wireless and wired are both on the same lan, on the same side of the router

[20:57:22]

wagnerrp:

i dont see the problem

[20:57:31]

Wicked:

wagnerrp, hmm. so that would need to have a stb?

[20:57:50]

wagnerrp:

Wicked: the 2250 works fine for digital, but it has no analog support

[20:57:58]

jolaren:

wagnerrp, I guess you could call it that..but wont work to connect on the localhost

[20:58:02]

jolaren:

when on wlan

[20:58:19]

wagnerrp:

of course not, you have to have your backend listen on a routable IP

[20:58:29]

wagnerrp:

rather than 127.0.0.1

[20:58:43]

Wicked:

wagnerrp, yea. i saw the 1st time..but im not entierly sure what that means. analog support would be if i wanted to directly plug the coaxial cable from the wall into the card?

[20:58:44]

jolaren:

well why does it work with a cord

[20:58:49]

jolaren:

and not without?

[20:59:20]

wagnerrp:

Wicked: that means you can use the digital tuner for ATSC or QAM straight off the antenna/cable

[20:59:41]

wagnerrp:

but cannot use analog for analog cable channels, or analog capture off a STB

[20:59:50]

utu (utu!~hax0r@c-24-12-169-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:00:36]

wagnerrp:

jolaren: either your network is not set up in the manner you think it is, or you are not explaining it properly

[21:00:37]

Wicked:

ok. i think i understand. i am currently capturing shows from my stb via svideo..which that seems to have.

[21:00:53]

wagnerrp:

Wicked: no, the 2250 does not support that

[21:01:14]

utu:

got everything working, seems like pulseaudio can only be used with alsa-plugins (ALSA:hw:0,0)

[21:01:22]

wagnerrp:

correction... the 2250 supports that form of capture just fine, the linux drives for the 2250 do not support analog of any form

[21:01:24]

Wicked:

i thought i saw it say it has a svideo input

[21:01:34]

jolaren:

wagnerrp, I don't know how I could explain it any other way.. ;/ I know my network is connected the only way possible

[21:01:38]

Wicked:

hmm

[21:01:50]

jolaren:

It's this crappy thing which came along my fiberoptical broadband connection

[21:02:05]

wagnerrp:

jolaren: you just have a single router, which functions as a switch and wireless AP?

[21:02:18]

Led-Hed (Led-Hed!~LedHed@68-189-95-197.dhcp.mghl.ca.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:02:22]

jolaren:

yeah i guess wagnerrp

[21:02:29]

wagnerrp:

meaning both wired and wireless clients are on the same subnet on the same side of the NAT?

[21:02:56]

wagnerrp:

then wired and wireless clients will be able to connect to mythtv just the same

[21:03:17]

jolaren:

I get no local IP when connectin to the wlan

[21:03:20]

wagnerrp:

besides the fact that wireless is an inherently poor choice for mythtv, and streaming video in general

[21:04:25]

jolaren:

I have three statical ip adresses out

[21:05:02]

wagnerrp:

so each of your machines has its own internet accessible IP?

[21:05:07]

jolaren:

yes

[21:05:19]

wagnerrp:

then set mythtv up as such, using that IP

[21:05:34]

wagnerrp:

and set up firewall rules to limit access

[21:05:37]

wagnerrp:

or...

[21:05:37]

jolaren:

It is atm.. via dns

[21:05:50]

wagnerrp:

create a new internal network alias for each machine

[21:05:56]

wagnerrp:

and use that for mythtv communication

[21:05:57]

utu:

Wicked: Did you ever were able to decrypt comcast's digital channels? e.g. watch them using mythtv?

[21:06:14]

wagnerrp:

utu: you cannot do that in anything but windows media center

[21:06:15]

Wicked:

no idea. i only have a pvr-150

[21:07:01]

utu:

wagnerrp: wmc only allows me to watch analog – 480p

[21:07:06]

SirColin (SirColin!~sircolin@my83-216-68-241.mynow.co.uk) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[21:07:08]

wagnerrp:

MCE is the only program which has the necessary license and DRM support for cablecard

[21:07:34]

utu:

hmm nummer, so there is no hacks available?

[21:07:34]

jolaren:

wagnerrp, I guess I'll give that a go

[21:07:42]

wagnerrp:

no, there are no hacks available

[21:07:53]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h127.144.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:07:58]

wagnerrp:

complain to your local FCC chairperson

[21:08:24]

wagnerrp:

jolaren: what is done 'via dns'?

[21:08:27]

utu:

screw fcc :P

[21:08:44]

jolaren:

wagnerrp, ip adress of my 1u rack is bound to a no-ip service

[21:08:58]

jolaren:

I used to host servers here therfor I have 4 statical ip-adresses

[21:09:04]

wagnerrp:

utu: FCC has already deemed cablecard a complete failure

[21:09:26]

wagnerrp:

jolaren: so set up mythtv to use that IP, and be done with it

[21:10:00]

jolaren:

wagnerrp, that's what I've done now, tho it drains bandwitdh.. but I guess I'll have to live with it

[21:10:05]

wagnerrp:

as iamlindoro stated, mythtv does no form of address name resolution, and trying to have it connect to a host name _will_not_work_

[21:10:18]

lydgate (lydgate!~lydgate@unaffiliated/lydgate) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[21:10:29]

wagnerrp:

it will not drain bandwidth for any sane router setup

[21:10:46]

wagnerrp:

it should hit the router, the router will see that its a local address, and keep everything internal

[21:10:59]

jolaren:

uhm.. my db etc will hit an dns such as noip.noip-lol.org

[21:11:11]

jolaren:

but in this case "adress.se"

[21:11:14]

wagnerrp:

your database will... yes

[21:11:22]

wagnerrp:

but the backend cannot be specified by a hostname

[21:11:24]

wagnerrp:

it must be an IP

[21:11:27]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@cpe-76-93-149-51.san.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:11:32]

lydgate (lydgate!~lydgate@unaffiliated/lydgate) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:11:44]

wagnerrp:

if you want to change that, youll have to overhaul the entirety of the mythtv codebase

[21:12:01]

jolaren:

I guess we are talkin about different things.. All my connections point to a ".se" adress

[21:12:25]

wagnerrp:

the database can be specified by a hostname

[21:12:33]

wagnerrp:

the backend addresses must be an IP address

[21:12:44]

wagnerrp:

those two address fields in mythtv-setup

[21:12:54]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)

[21:13:01]

wagnerrp:

the first page under 'general'

[21:14:46]

jolaren:

wagnerrp, localbackend and masterbackend points to this .se domain

[21:14:55]

wagnerrp:

no, they must be IP addresses

[21:15:09]

wagnerrp:

as stated, if you give those hostnames, mythtv _will_not_work_

[21:15:11]

jolaren:

the .se domains points to ip adresses

[21:15:17]

utu:

how can i prevent frontend from running in fullscreen? i can't find the shortcut anywhere, 'w' doesn't do what i would like

[21:15:26]

wagnerrp:

yes... you must specify IP addresses in those fields

[21:15:34]

jolaren:

But why does it work.. when I don't have that?

[21:15:37]

wagnerrp:

i dont care if you have a DNS address

[21:15:38]

jolaren:

I can print you a screen

[21:15:39]

awalls (awalls!~awalls@02-025.155.popsite.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:15:50]

jolaren:

Cuz we might be talkin about different things..

[21:16:10]

wagnerrp:

no, those two fields must be IP addresses

[21:16:43]

wagnerrp:

if you have static IPs, specifying the IP will not be a problem

[21:16:44]

jolaren:

uhm..

[21:16:51]

jolaren:

I know it will not

[21:16:59]

jolaren:

A dns is basicly an IP covered with a name

[21:17:04]

jolaren:

and that does work proven by my setup

[21:17:15]

wagnerrp:

no, a DNS is a name that has to be looked up against a DNS server

[21:17:24]

wagnerrp:

and myth's internal communication code does not do that

[21:17:26]

jolaren:

correct

[21:17:41]

wagnerrp:

furthermore, myth relies on those IPs for internal identifiers

[21:18:05]

wagnerrp:

so altering myth's code to use hostnames instead of IPs would require reworking a large chunk of code

[21:18:11]

jolaren:

I don't want to go into a to deep discussion but when your telling me that "it wont work" and it's acctually workin just as we speak. That's like telling me the earths flat

[21:18:32]

wagnerrp:

im telling you its not working right now

[21:19:01]

jolaren:

Could you point me to the text part, instead of using mythtv-setup

[21:19:05]

wagnerrp:

if you have words instead of numbers in those fields, mythbackend is not functioning properly

[21:19:08]

jolaren:

I want to see if that perhaps it pointed to a real ip daress

[21:19:23]

wagnerrp:

even if it is running, it thinks it is a slave backend

[21:19:32]

wagnerrp:

and is trying to connect to an address it will never be able to

[21:19:43]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:20:07]

kormoc (kormoc!~kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has quit (Quit: kormoc)

[21:20:07]

jolaren:

I can watch/record all my channels

[21:20:10]

jolaren:

I don't know what I'm missing out on

[21:20:29]

wagnerrp:

because your frontend is locally accessing those files

[21:20:32]

alexvd__ (alexvd__!~alexvd@pool-98-109-132-60.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[21:20:40]

dashcloud (dashcloud!~quassel@71.246.26.87) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[21:20:40]

wagnerrp:

you get whatever behavior is possible without running the backend

[21:20:49]

wagnerrp:

because effectively, youre currently not doing so

[21:21:09]

wagnerrp:

the master backend handles all scheduling and management tasks

[21:21:41]

jolaren:

Basicly my server is under alot more pressure? If I' getting you right

[21:21:42]

jolaren:

Cuz it

[21:21:49]

jolaren:

Cuz it's both decoding and playing it back?

[21:21:51]

wagnerrp:

no, your server is doing nothing

[21:21:59]

wagnerrp:

its caught in a connection loop

[21:22:02]

jolaren:

That's imposible, my dvb-t card is in my server

[21:22:07]

vhann:

Do you guys have any idea why, even though my Hauppauge PVR-150 appears in lspci and /dev/video0,24,32 are present, v4l2-ctl --get-input tells me '/dev/video0: No such device or address'?

[21:22:07]

jolaren:

and I'm watchin it atm

[21:22:13]

jolaren:

from my laptop and from my stationary

[21:23:15]

jolaren:

So it must be doing something wagnerrp

[21:25:20]

awalls:

vhann: Does v4l2-ctl --log-status work?

[21:25:39]

vhann:

awalls: Give me a min (server rebooting) and I'll check

[21:26:42]

jolaren:

Btw some channels doesn't cover the entire screen, it leaves alot black on the sites.. Is it possible to edit that?

[21:27:48]

paperclip (paperclip!~paperclip@ip72-204-175-205.no.no.cox.net) has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)

[21:28:48]

vhann:

awalls: No, v4l2-ctl --log-status doesn't work either

[21:29:13]

awalls:

hmmm....

[21:29:17]

alexvd__ (alexvd__!~alexvd@pool-98-109-132-60.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:29:21]

awalls:

Still ENODEV?

[21:30:00]

vhann:

ENODEV being : 'Failed to open /dev/video0: No such device or address', then yes

[21:30:09]

awalls:

yes.

[21:31:02]

awalls:

Those two calls are somewhat trivial in the ivtv driver. It's not failing there.

[21:31:22]

vhann:

I only paid 20$ for this card but that's still 20$ wasted if the card doesn't work :(

[21:31:33]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h127.144.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[21:31:34]

awalls:

HAs the card ever worked?

[21:31:44]

vhann:

awalls: Dunno, this was the first test

[21:31:53]

wagnerrp:

you did buy it used.... it may be DOA

[21:32:02]

vhann:

I just finished installing the server's OS

[21:32:29]

Some_Person (Some_Person!~sam@2001:0:53aa:64c:20f1:27d3:b90f:96fb) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:32:34]

vhann:

wagnerrp: Yeah, I bought it from Craigslist, met the guy irl

[21:32:46]

Some_Person:

urgh, mythtv is just confusing the heck out of me

[21:32:56]

vhann:

He told me it was still working but I guess he was lying...

[21:32:58]

awalls:

modprobe -r ivtv; modprobe ivtv debug=1023

[21:33:17]

awalls:

Then check dmesg

[21:33:22]

awalls:

and /var/log/messages

[21:33:28]

sybolt (sybolt!~sybolt@sybolt.xs4all.nl) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[21:33:29]

wagnerrp:

are you sure its not just a permissions issue?

[21:34:35]

awalls:

Do you have firmware images in /lib/firmware or wherver your distro needs them installed?

[21:34:58]

vhann:

wagnerrp: I tried it as a user (I checked, he's member of video (the group to which /dev/video0 belongs)

[21:35:04]

vhann:

then as root

[21:35:39]

vhann:

awalls: Wow, 90+ lines added to dmesg

[21:36:12]

vhann:

awalls: Nothing in /lib/firmware

[21:36:22]

awalls:

Well if you want more you should try debug=2047 ;)

[21:36:39]

awalls:

the CX23416 chip and the CX25843 need firmware images.

[21:36:50]

awalls:

See ivtvdriver.org for details.

[21:36:56]

utu (utu!~hax0r@c-24-12-169-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[21:37:00]

vhann:

awalls: Oh, /var/log/messages tells me itfailed loading firmware

[21:37:06]

awalls:

Most distributions should have a firmware package for you to install

[21:37:27]

vhann:

awalls: I am going to edit linuxtv.org wiki page about Hauppauge cards

[21:37:50]

jolaren:

Might not be the correct place to ask, but are there any altenatives to mythtv for viewing livetv on several computers? Then I'm talkin about for me who watch live tv 95% of the

[21:37:54]

vhann:

It's quite frustrating there is mostly nothing there

[21:37:59]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:38:18]

awalls:

The MythTV wiki has a bit more when it comes to the Hauppaugue cards

[21:38:42]

awalls:

And the ivtvdriver.org wiki has bit when it comes to ivtv based cards.

[21:38:51]

awalls:

go figure. ;)

[21:39:26]

jolaren:

I love mythtv tho, I was just wondering cuz I like to check out altenatives cuz I'd like to know that mythtv is the best

[21:40:01]

awalls:

jolaren: VLC maybe.

[21:40:12]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@12.236.252.130) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:40:52]

RyeBrye_ (RyeBrye_!~ryebrye@12.236.252.135) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:41:05]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[21:41:19]

jolaren:

awalls, seems to be workin if your running the card from within ur computer

[21:44:49]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@12.236.252.130) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[21:44:49]

RyeBrye_ is now known as RyeBrye

[21:47:11]

awalls (awalls!~awalls@02-025.155.popsite.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[22:01:52]

lepsie (lepsie!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[22:02:11]

dashcloud (dashcloud!~quassel@71.246.26.87) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:04:07]

Some_Person (Some_Person!~sam@2001:0:53aa:64c:20f1:27d3:b90f:96fb) has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)

[22:11:56]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@12.236.252.135) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[22:13:26]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@rrcs-71-40-238-191.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:13:35]

RyeBrye (RyeBrye!~ryebrye@12.236.252.135) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:14:06]

dougl (dougl!~doug@S010600242b3f511f.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:24:57]

Dave123 (Dave123!~dave@cpe-74-69-108-236.rochester.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:30:47]

rushfan (rushfan!~rushfan@cpe-98-155-83-89.san.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:42:12]

russell5 (russell5!~russell5@c-24-62-55-58.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:42:43]

russell5:

hey just wanna say just got mythtv finished setting up with mythtv and i am loving it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[22:45:36]

poodyp (poodyp!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[22:47:24]

poodyp (poodyp!~mordac@cpe-98-148-126-59.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:59:04]

jolaren:

yer its great russell5

[22:59:18]

russell5:

i knew i would like it but not this much lol

[22:59:24]

russell5:

it was worth all the work it took me

[23:00:07]

jolaren:

hehe

[23:00:13]

jolaren:

it's def more worth then gettin a new hd box

[23:00:17]

jolaren:

cuz that was the altenative for me

[23:00:49]

lepsie (lepsie!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:01:16]

russell5:

yeah i dont do hd. not worth paying for or gettings the atenna

[23:01:31]

jolaren:

we have a few free hd channels in sweden

[23:07:55]

inordkuo (inordkuo!~inorkuo@adsl-243-141-68.int.bellsouth.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[23:14:55]

inordkuo (inordkuo!~inorkuo@adsl-243-141-68.int.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:16:18]

jolaren (jolaren!~joel@c-e5f4e555.015-160-73746f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:17:30]

xris:

hmm, new RAM to feed to my mythbox and it's too busy recording Olympics....

[23:17:59]

wagnerrp:

svn could use a bump while youre around

[23:18:04]

wagnerrp:

xris^^^

[23:18:25]

xris:

bumped

[23:18:40]

gunni_ (gunni_!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-251-185.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:18:44]

DjMadness_ (DjMadness_!~quassel@0x5552d9c6.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:19:26]

xris:

sourceforge offered to host stuff for us.. it's too bad their bug tracker sucks.. might be worth it for someone else to monitor servers. :)

[23:20:42]

qupada (qupada!~qupada@131.203.203.2) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:21:16]

Shadow__1 (Shadow__1!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:22:06]

DjMadness (DjMadness!~quassel@pdpc/supporter/student/DjMadness) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:22:50]

gunni (gunni!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-251-185.netcologne.de) has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)

[23:26:56]

qupada42 (qupada42!~qupada@131.203.203.2) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[23:26:56]

Shadow__X (Shadow__X!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[23:27:09]

ramindia (ramindia!~balajibhr@96-10.southernonline.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[23:31:23]

jamesd2:

xris, not sure mythtv box needs more ram, it just loves cpu and disk space... you do have more than 2GB of ram correct?

[23:32:30]

stoth_ (stoth_!~stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:32:41]

stoth_ (stoth_!~stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[23:33:41]

gilles (gilles!~chatzilla@70.99.171.254) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:33:43]

fleers:

I started to look into transcoding certain recordings to aac for ipod viewing, and see that ffmpeg needs to be recompiled in order to do that. Is anything other than mytharchive using ffmpeg?

[23:34:20]

wagnerrp:

mythweb uses it for flash streaming

[23:37:41]

fleers:

thanks wagnerrp, that must be the ASX stream button I see in mythweb, which I admit to never having used

[23:37:56]

wagnerrp:

no, its the flash streaming

[23:38:08]

wagnerrp:

the asx streaming just a straight dump of the recording

[23:41:34]

fleers:

okay, i see how to do that on the wiki… you still need a transcode job from what i gather

[23:42:56]

kormoc (kormoc!~kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:42:56]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc

[23:43:19]

wagnerrp:

fleers: no, it transcodes on the fly

[23:43:43]

fleers:

cool

[23:45:29]

fleers:

to do my aac trsanscoding, i guess i should either build aac-enabled ffmpeg with —prefix of /usr/local or some other location so it is persistent. or will it not matter if i replace ffmpeg from under myth? in /usr

[23:45:44]

fleers:

…or i could transcode to aac with handbrake cli

[23:46:34]

fleers:

or is that a swear word here ? :-)

[23:48:02]

dashcloud (dashcloud!~quassel@71.246.26.87) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[23:53:10]

fleers:

wagnerrp: is this really outdated as it says? – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/stream_mythtv_reco . . . _flash_video

[23:53:47]

wagnerrp:

yes, that is outdated

[23:53:57]

wagnerrp:

mythweb now includes a built-in facility for flash streaming

[23:54:17]

kormoc:

If we're lying on the page saying it's outdated, would we tell the truth when you ask if we're lying?

[23:54:34]

Chicago:

jolaren, 11 is WTTW (PBS)

[23:54:54]

wagnerrp:

kormoc: careful there... youll put MythLogBot into a logic loop

MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net:8001 :: #mythtv-users

Current users (206):