Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

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sphery:

What? Python on EC2? Are we talking about Snakes on a Plane?

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sphery:

how else could the snakes get up in the clouds?

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wagnerrp:

nah, snakes on a boat... theyre on the amazon

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Beirdo:

hehe

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iamlindoro:

I have had it with these monkey fighting snakes on this monkey fighting cloud

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Beirdo:

hmm, I wonder if an EBS-backed EC2 can stop itself (basically like going into suspend)

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Beirdo:

I shall have to be investigating that :)

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hackman:

how is mythtv as a blueray player?

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[R]:

they just committed some initial playback support for unencrypted content

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Beirdo:

dunno about blueray, but I'm pretty sure Linux has no support for encrypted BluRay playback

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Beirdo:

just get a standalone player :)

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Beirdo:

like a PS3

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[R]:

wagnerrp: you there?

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jarle:

uhm, I dropped the eit_cache table instead of just truncating it, how do I recreate the table structure?

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[R]:

get the myth source and find the CREATE TABLE?

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Beirdo:

hahah

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Beirdo:

Frasier... they say the cafe is at 3rd and Pike... I can assure you, there are no trees outside at that address

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[R]:

What are you complaining about? I have to wear glasses to watch 2D TV! Yes it is a nuisance, but I do it anyway because I want

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[R]:

it to be in focus. I don't see 3D glasses as being any worse.

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[R]:

HAHA!

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highzeth:

Beirdo: there is MakeMKV, but I have no idea how well it works on Blu-ray

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highzeth:

still sitting on the fence when it comes to that format & a pc drive

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Kris_eva:

Hi All, any idea if it is possible to transcode a recording on the fly (while its being recorded) without actually reading the file from HDD

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schloompy:

Kris_eva, no can you guess why?

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Kris_eva:

no idea

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schloompy:

actaully now i think about it its not really a silly question it could be done

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schloompy:

but the reason is when it transcodes its actually making a different file and delete the old one once its finished

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schloompy:

so if you are recording your telling the transcoder to transcode a specific amount of frames etc. and to overwrite the file once its done

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schloompy:

it wouldnt work

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schloompy:

cause the original source is changing ...

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justinh:

heh. That OT mailing guy should've tried googling 'Francis T. Seow'

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Kris_eva:

I guess Myth any way parses incoming stream packets, can we as well send those packets to a mpeg transcoder (ffmpeg libs) for generating a low-res video

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justinh:

we? I guess you could, if you worked on coding it

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justinh:

that's you as in er...*you* :)

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justinh:

see mythstreamtv

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justinh:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythStreamTV

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justinh:

last seen working several moons ago

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wagnerrp:

wtf are these 'URGENT' messages on the mailing list?

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wagnerrp:

some new spin on the old 419 scam?

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janneg:

wagnerrp: no idea www.pubbs.net/200911/fedora/30912-tutorial-how-to-build-and-install-ufs-linux-on -fedora-11-x8664.html

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janneg:

it was/is at least a real person and not a spam account

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wagnerrp:

the fact that hes sending from one, with the reply to another, and cc to a third, is rather fishy

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wagnerrp:

even though they all seem to be valid accounts

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wagnerrp:

did the markup tables used to encode byte location instead of frame location?

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justinh:

arghhh GDIAF, UPDATE MANGLER!

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justinh:

wagnerrp: re the 'URGENT' ML mails... I think they're an attempt to raise awareness of somebody who's been oppressed in the past & has presumably 'disappeared'

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justinh:

unlikely to win them much sympathy if that's the case IMHO

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** justinh wishes there was a way to change playback profile stuff while playing back.. but that sort of thing is WAY above this coder's capacity **

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justinh:

hmmm maybe I could wrap it up in a script somehow

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justinh:

while $blah in $foo { mythtvavtest -O $setting="foo" $file; } kinda thing

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wagnerrp:

and use an external player for recording playback?

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justinh:

just to try out different settings without the rigmarole of going into menus etc

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wagnerrp:

or are you talking about mythvideo?

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justinh:

all I want to do is try different profile parameters & see what works best

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wagnerrp:

it probably wouldnt be that difficult to add an entry to the 'm' menu

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wagnerrp:

a 'play using profile'

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justinh:

can it change on the fly?

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justinh:

or would it have to stop & restart playback. I'm guessing the latter

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wagnerrp:

you would probably have to restart playback

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wagnerrp:

but it would mean you didnt have to go the ten steps or so into the profile setup

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justinh:

I hate those playback profile pages but I've never thought of a better way to do it

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justinh:

or...heh I could just dig into the settings table for the old frontend hostname & find the settings I already know look fine

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justinh:

DUH

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wagnerrp:

you mean for deint and stuff?

[08:39:23]

justinh:

yeah

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justinh:

oh wait are those bound to profiles?

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wagnerrp:

right

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justinh:

I still have the old db somewhere

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justinh:

mmm grepping through mysql dumps. fun fun fun

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dustybin:

1 more day and all my new server bits and joggler will arrive :D

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dustybin:

i will be the first person in this channel to run the frontend on a joggler :D

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wagnerrp:

oh?

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dustybin:

anybody here use a intel stock cooler?

[08:59:28]

wagnerrp:

Dib blah found this yesterday... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgwjPRBAFrU

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: that person isnt in this channel!

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wagnerrp:

!seen azelphur

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MythLogBot:

azelphur was last seen 19 days 3 hours 20 minutes 8 seconds ago

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dustybin:

ohhh dam

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wagnerrp:

not currently, no

[09:00:54]

dustybin:

slackware 13.1 is going on my joggler, not ubuntu!

[09:01:10]

justinh:

hmm joggle mythfrontend. Yawn. Been there,done that

[09:01:18]

dustybin:

justinh: what was is like?

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justinh:

just cos I don't blog or tweet about it nobody hears about it :D

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wagnerrp:

anemic, awaiting VAAPI support

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justinh:

well, playback of SDTV is ok but forget about flash video even half screen size

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dustybin:

ok

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justinh:

wifi performance is also abysmal

[09:02:39]

dustybin:

im going to go wired

[09:02:56]

justinh:

so you'd likely want to replace its USB wifi adapter for one which works better in linux

[09:02:57]

dustybin:

i try and avoid wifi as best i can

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wagnerrp:

you may as well, considering you need to be plugged into the wall anyway

[09:03:13]

dustybin:

wagnerrp: exactly!

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dustybin:

i might remove the wifi and stick in my usb boot drive

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dustybin:

then i have a spare usb slot on the outside

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justinh:

for some reason all my experience of wifi in linux has been atrocious

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justinh:

great signal on windows... really poor in linux on the same adapter

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justinh:

oh yeah reverse engineering drivers isn't how you get nice drivers :)

[09:05:08]

justinh:

anyway, that guy on the youtube vid has got some retarded flash app running over the top of mythfrontend

[09:05:16]

dustybin:

justinh: does the latest release of ubuntu work ok on the joggler

[09:05:27]

justinh:

be much better to get better touchscreen support *INTO* mythtv

[09:05:45]

justinh:

and when the osd port to mythui is complete... mmmmmm

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justinh:

dustybin: forget ubuntu, slackware! that's your motto. Stick by it. Happy hacking

[09:06:36]

dustybin:

aye

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dustybin:

first mission is get a nice new kernel and the gfx driver working

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dustybin:

the rest will fall into place

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justinh:

I just grabbed $whatever USB stick image I could find first. Not had much chance to experiment with it yet

[09:07:54]

justinh:

installed xbmc on it, which left alone for an hour went on to crash so I had to pull the plug on it, ruining the filesystem on the USB stick

[09:08:29]

justinh:

need to get rid of ubuntu netbook edition's bloody awful menu system too

[09:08:51]

justinh:

and the touchscreen keyboard app is horrible. cellwriter or whatever. meh

[09:09:13]

justinh:

not that mythfrontend would even need that

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justinh:

dustybin: IEGD can be a cow to make work. been there with my old S100 boxes

[09:10:02]

dustybin:

yep, i need to figure that out

[09:10:20]

dustybin:

maybe i should plug in a external usb hard drive to start off with

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dustybin:

to experiment

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dustybin:

i dont like the idea of corrupted usb sticks

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justinh:

USB stick/ filesystem

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justinh:

same difference

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justinh:

got some 40-way micro ribbon connectors on the way. we's gonna add proper HDDs

[09:12:49]

justinh:

and try display hacking. video controller outputs LVDS

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justinh:

14" touchscreen display would make one hell of a kiosk

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justinh:

anyway, just dd the working usb stick to a file & zap it back onto the stick if the fs gets mangled :)

[09:15:17]

justinh:

god can none of these muppets videoing stuff use a tripod for pete's sakes?!

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justinh:

ooo how did I miss squeezeplay? she look niiiiiiiiiice

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GreyFoxx:

Wonder what the state of IEGD is these days. I haven't heard anyone mention it in so long

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GreyFoxx:

and I haven't touched my old MSNTV's in years now

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wagnerrp:

IEGD?

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Captain_Murdoch:

GreyFoxx, I've thought about selling my two.

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Captain_Murdoch:

or perhaps just putting one in the car running an older Myth.

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Captain_Murdoch:

s/car/SUV/

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GreyFoxx:

hmmm that could be neat

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wagnerrp:

presumably youre talking about the 'MSNTV2'?

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wagnerrp:

i doubt the older ones would even have have the power to start the UI

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wagnerrp:

or even a semi recent X for that matter

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jarle:

so what does "EITScanner (4): EIT scan ignoring sourceid." mean?

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GreyFoxx:

yeah we mean the msntv2

[10:08:49]

GreyFoxx:

they made sweet low power FE's back in the day

[10:09:01]

GreyFoxx:

low power, no moving parts so dead silent

[10:09:23]

wagnerrp:

kinda...its just a mobile celeron

[10:09:50]

GreyFoxx:

well back then that was more than fine :)

[10:09:59]

GreyFoxx:

same cpu power as an xbox, twice the ram

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wagnerrp:

about as good as an Xbox without the 'high end' graphics

[10:10:22]

wagnerrp:

yeah, the additional ram was a more than adequate trade off for the graphics chip

[10:10:30]

GreyFoxx:

the intel gpu with the conexant tv encoder looked amazing

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GreyFoxx:

but now they are just collecting dust

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wagnerrp:

cant you even buy in-car monitors that only take interlaced output?

[10:15:47]

wagnerrp:

i thought just about anything available took at least VGA

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wagnerrp:

probably worth the $100 to shell out for an Atom/ION

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janneg:

jarle: nothing other than you've activated the "ignore source id" in the eit option

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janneg:

s

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jarle:

janneg: in other words somewhere in my setup I have configured it to *not* have active scan for a specific source?

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jarle:

janneg: somehow my system has stopped getting eit for a specific source, preventing recordings for two of my inputs. I'm thinking that this setting might be causing it?

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jarle:

janneg: maybe I by a mistake changed a setting in mythtv-setup, as this has been working just fine until I did som changes in mythtv-setup yesterday.

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jarle:

janneg: I think I solved the problem, somehow I did not have active eit turned on for any of the cards carrying a specific source, turned it of by a mistake..

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wagnerrp:

'robbery reported off campus, student robbed by several black men in hooded sweatshirts'

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wagnerrp:

come on people, use some common sense

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wagnerrp:

its 90 f---ing degrees outside... if you see people wearing hoodies, you go elsewhere

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wagnerrp:

if nothing else, you dont want to be around them because they'll smell

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sid3windr:

=)

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wagnerrp:

we shouldnt avoid people wearing hoodies in 90 degree weather... because thats profiling, and thats wrong

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GreyFoxx:

well not all "profiling" is bad or wrong

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GreyFoxx:

For instance if I'm walking down the street and see a pack of skinheads walk toward me and or my family , drinking and swearing and being rowdy ... I move to other side of the street. Call it wrong or not

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GreyFoxx:

granted that has only happened like twice in my life :)

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GreyFoxx:

(and I'm talking swastica tattooed skinheads in combat boots and such, not just bald dudes) :)

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wagnerrp:

well... profiling against nazis is perfectly alright

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wagnerrp:

you are also allowed to shoot, beat up, throw from a moving truck, or melt using an Ark of the Covenant

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GreyFoxx:

I keep a spare AotC in my trunk for just such events

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wagnerrp:

oh, and lance using a flag pole from a motorcycle... cant forget about that right

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Captain_Murdoch:

wagnerrp, not allowing hoodies in 90+ weather is also descrimination against the poor people who can't buy tank-tops.

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Captain_Murdoch:

s/descrimination/discrimination/

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Beirdo:

Captain_Murdoch: oh no, can't afford the wife-beaters? Now that's poor

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Captain_Murdoch:

yep. all the more reason that we need to just let them be and not make them feel bad or intimidated. a lot of them can't even afford belts it would appear.

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Beirdo:

heh.

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Beirdo:

mornings suck as usual... sigh

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Captain_Murdoch:

how's a modern day gangsta' supposed to rob somebody if he's got to keep one hand on his wasteband and one on his hoodie. what's he supposed to hold his boom-stick with.

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wagnerrp:

sounds like someones got a case of the thursdays

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Beirdo:

heh, someone has a case of "stayed up too late writing perl scripts" :)

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Beirdo:

but, on the good side... the netflix discs I tossed in the outbound mail bin yesterday were received this morning

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Beirdo:

yay for the local distro point being in Tacoma :)

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wagnerrp:

at least they werent stolen by mail personnel

[12:22:15]

Beirdo:

heh. Yeah that woulda suckd

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Captain_Murdoch:

my distribution center is ~100 miles away and I normally get a 2-day turnaround. drop them in the mail on Monday and have the new ones home waiting for me when I get home Wednesday.

[12:25:57]

Captain_Murdoch:

so if I could just make Wednesday a movie night, I could get another set by Saturday. :)

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Beirdo:

not bad at all. I should get the new set tomorrow, it seems

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Beirdo:

the third one's sitting in the DVD player waiting to be watched. I was too distracted by TV last night. hehe

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J-e-f-f-A:

WoHoo! FiOS TV HD install tomorrow... I can hardly wait... ;-)

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esperegu_:

how can I just play a file from the filesystem?

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wagnerrp:

see MythVideo

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esperegu_:

wagnerrp: I was on the wiki pago of that. But I mainly saw how to add locations. It's not possible to 'normally' browse the filesystem?

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wagnerrp:

yes, you can set it in 'browse' mode, but why would you want to?

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iamlindoro:

Because Metadata is sooooooo Windows for Workgroups 3.11

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iamlindoro:

He's a Dos 5.0 man, he is

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sid3windr:

=)

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Captain_Murdoch:

wagnerrp, you'd want to to browse video files on a CD or DVD or flash drive or USB drive or any other place not in your Videos SG. :)

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wagnerrp:

Captain_Murdoch: yeah, thats the only worth i see for browse mode

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Captain_Murdoch:

that's the only thing I use it for as well.

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iamlindoro:

That said, a nice MFSW watching removable media would work just as well ;)

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Captain_Murdoch:

and I'm still debating what to do about that for MFSW.

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Beirdo:

a nice NSFW removable media would be even better

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iamlindoro:

I'm still waiting on a NSFW MNV grabber

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iamlindoro:

Someone had started work on one and then disappeared

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iamlindoro:

Because I *know * it will take off if it gets one of those

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Captain_Murdoch:

maybe that's what the 'load an image when I start a plugin' guy wanted to do. :) load the pr0n of the day from site X, site Y, or site Z.

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iamlindoro:

I need to remember to start modifying my language... they're not MNV grabbers any more, they're "Internet Content" grabbers... since they're now generic

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iamlindoro:

Captain_Murdoch: Heh, I somehow suspect his aims were more nefarious

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esperegu_:

wagnerrp: according to that page it should be on Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings. But I don't have a media settings entry.

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iamlindoro:

Then you don't have any of the media plugins installed

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dustybin:

iamlindoro: was you a windows user before you used linux?

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sphery:

So, has anyone here seen Dr Francis T. Seow? (I feel just like one of those guys on the AT&T/iPhone commercial where they all help find the lost dog...)

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sid3windr:

you don't feel like Moe when Bart calls him up pretending to look for one of his patrons? :P

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iamlindoro:

<spartacus>I'm Dr. Francis T Seow!</spartacus>

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sphery:

sid3windr: What? It's not real. And here I thought I was helping out. :(

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Bazil_:

hi guyes, i have a problem, i recently bougt and installed a DVB-C card and camodule, i hooked in hte card, and started playing tv, the first 2 days it was working fabulous, but now i can only watch channels that is free, the card is still working on my regular tvbox, any ideas on what can be wrong ?

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stevieman:

So I have a pvr-150 card connected to cable, a pinacle 800i connected to an antenna. I can access all the channels in myth if I goto the menu and change the input to either the digital or the analog inputs on the 800i, the PVR-150 is the default tuner apparently and is not listed in the iput section of the menu. The guide has the 800i Digital tuner channles, the pvr-150 channels but not the 800i analog channels. Also I cannot change to the 800i d

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stevieman:

igital channels without first specifying the input, which I don't want to have to do all the time

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justinh:

found myself a little bit stumped by the search in the program finder yesterday. think I'll have to make a new remote binding

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justinh:

or a patch.. whatever

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Cervera:

hey, anyone here with a hauppage! PVR?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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Cervera:

pvr-150? maybe?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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Cervera:

yippie.... did you ever encounter sound problems?

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wagnerrp:

nope

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Cervera:

sometimes i have (randomly) sound problems in episode recordings

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Cervera:

and live tv

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Cervera:

sound has a high pitch disortion

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Cervera:

and i have no idea where to start diagnosing the problem

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Cervera:

and it comes randomly. any ideas? anybody encountered a problem like this?

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Cervera:

help?

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wagnerrp:

make sure your record rate is set to 48khz

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Cervera:

i'll check it, but won't it be permanently problematic if the rate was set wrong?

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wagnerrp:

you would see that problem for all recordings at which you used a wrong rate

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wagnerrp:

although if it only happens randomly, its doubtful thats the problem

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Beirdo:

!trout Wicked you shouldn't paste to IRC

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** MythLogBot slaps Wicked with a you shouldn't paste to IRC trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

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wagnerrp:

eh?

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wagnerrp:

!seen Wicked

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MythLogBot:

Wicked is here and has been idle for 7 minutes 50 seconds

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** wagnerrp sees no pasting **

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Beirdo:

16:27 -!- Wicked [~zero@unaffiliated/blazed] has quit [Excess Flood]

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Beirdo:

16:27 -!- Wicked [~zero@unaffiliated/blazed] has quit [Excess Flood]

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GrahamIRC:

very wicked!

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Beirdo:

urgh

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Beirdo:

stupid ssh connection :)

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Beirdo:

that was meant to be once :)

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Beirdo:

Excess Flood is nearly always due to pasting, but not always :)

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Wicked:

ah no idea why it did excess flood

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Wicked:

i did a killall znc to restart my bouncer

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justinh:

excess flooding always reminds me of that bash.org quote. a picture paints a thousand words :) $user has quit (excess flood) lol

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wagnerrp:

http://bash.org/?587662

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wagnerrp:

hehe.... http://bash.org/?7936

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: i think youll like this one... http://bash.org/?400459

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Beirdo:

nice

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Beirdo:

hehe

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stevieman:

So I have a pvr-150 card connected to cable, a pinacle 800i connected to an antenna. I can access all the channels in myth if I goto the menu and change the input to either the digital or the analog inputs on the 800i, the PVR-150 is the default tuner apparently and is not listed in the iput section of the menu. The guide has the 800i Digital tuner channles, the pvr-150 channels but not the 800i analog channels. Also I cannot change to the 800i d

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stevieman:

igital channels without first specifying the input, which I don't want to have to do all the time

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wagnerrp:

you said that already

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bjd:

best repeat it again, just to be sure

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Beirdo:

heh

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stevieman:

sorry, I didn't mean to do that

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stevieman:

wrong window was focused

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Beirdo:

If it's much more than like 3 or 4 lines on my client, my eyes tend to glaze over

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wagnerrp:

stevieman: im implying... 'if you need help, you have to ask a question'

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stevieman:

is it normal for the channels to be seperated by inputs and not assessable in the guide?

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wagnerrp:

guide... dont know about that

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stevieman:

or accessable even .....

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wagnerrp:

but default behavior is that the channel change buttons only change within the current input

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stevieman:

Is there a way to change the default behaviour to allow me to access all the channels regardless of the input?

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stevieman:

without having to change the inputs?

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wagnerrp:

yeah, 'browse across inputs' or something like that

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wagnerrp:

buried in the frontend settings

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stevieman:

ok, I'll go digging

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Beirdo:

Grrrr

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Beirdo:

Wicked: fix your client!

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Wicked:

Beirdo, sorry. should be good now :)

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Wicked:

weird though how it excess floods...

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Beirdo:

that a reconnect flood?

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Wicked:

errr

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Wicked:

am i lagging?

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Beirdo:

no

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Wicked:

ok.

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Beirdo:

I don't think you are

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Wicked:

well i was changing some settings on my irc bouncer(znc) and did a "killall znc" to restart it

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Beirdo:

but yeah, a lot of clients, if you quit and restart... they don't pace joining many channels

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Beirdo:

and flood the server just trying to join

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Wicked:

ah. could very well be that. i idle in *alot* of channels on freenode

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Beirdo:

should check for some sort of setting to spread out the joins, etc :)

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** Beirdo pats MythLogBot **

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Beirdo:

I implemented protection code in that bot to prevent it from Excess Floods

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Wicked:

ah yea. i will have to look into that...i vaughly remember a setting related to joining channels.

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Wicked:

ah.

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Wicked:

i dont do c/c++

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Wicked:

which is what the bouncer is written in(c++) iirc

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Beirdo:

it's a sliding window type of thing in the server... if you send more than x amount in the past y seconds, it boots you

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Wicked:

yea

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Beirdo:

and it measures x in bytes, IIRC, and also number of messages

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Wicked:

i remember back in the day on undernet ctcp flooding people

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Beirdo:

something like that

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Wicked:

or well people doing it...not nessisarily me doing it

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Beirdo:

oO

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stevieman:

ok I got all the channels showing up in the guide now and everything else seems to be working fine. It was in Playback OSD in case anyone wants to know

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gmspence__:

can anyone tell me how to set my sleep timer when i'm watching a video.... i want it to shut down my PC instead of going back to the main menu.....is this possible?

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iamlindoro:

No, you cannot have the sleep timer shut down the PC

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Beirdo:

so it seems that NBC went over the cliff.

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Beirdo:

Law & Order... cancelled?!

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Beirdo:

excuse my French, but WTH?

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gmspence__:

iamlindoro – is there any workaround u could suggest?

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xris:

this is really informative: http://hd.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd-101-over . . . l-tvs-do-it/

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xris:

various ways to disable overscan

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justinh:

yay digital audio works & I didn't have to jump through any mad hoops

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J-e-f-f-A:

Humm... gotta upgrade my box from FC8, should I jump right to FC13? (re-install OS from scratch, and restore DB) Opinions?

[19:30:00]

Beirdo:

that is really useful xris, thanks :)

[19:30:44]

J-e-f-f-A:

Beirdo: So how are you liking Seattle? ;-)

[19:30:53]

Beirdo:

I like it. :)

[19:31:26]

Beirdo:

it's my more my style... although my sedentary legs are still getting used to the idea of walking more

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** J-e-f-f-A has never been there... Some day... **

[19:31:34]

Beirdo:

!url overscan

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MythLogBot:

overscan: http://hd.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd-101-over . . . l-tvs-do-it/

[19:31:35]

Beirdo:

:)

[19:31:37]

Beirdo:

there

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J-e-f-f-A:

ha!

[19:31:54]

iamlindoro:

!url linuxtv

[19:31:54]

MythLogBot:

linuxtv: http://www.linuxtv.org/

[19:31:58]

iamlindoro:

yay!

[19:32:10]

J-e-f-f-A:

!url wiki

[19:32:10]

MythLogBot:

wiki: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/

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Beirdo:

it's manual entry, so if we need more... let me know

[19:32:14]

J-e-f-f-A:

awesome

[19:32:18]

Beirdo:

!url google

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MythLogBot:

google: http://www.google.com/

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Beirdo:

hehe

[19:32:27]

Beirdo:

for those who are too retarded to know it

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iamlindoro:

How about http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information as linuxtv, or "hardware" or "tuners"

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iamlindoro:

That way they can't get lost on the way to the wiki

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Beirdo:

one sec

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Beirdo:

!url tuners

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MythLogBot:

tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information

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Beirdo:

:)

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iamlindoro:

sweet

[19:40:48]

J-e-f-f-A:

Beirdo: Is there a way to display what url keywords you have configured? something like !url list returning something like "entries: overscan linuxtv wiki google tuners"

[19:43:09]

J-e-f-f-A:

Ah, good, nothing 'critical' recording the next few days, so I'll have pleanty of time to upgrade my systems. ;-)

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Beirdo:

!help url

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Beirdo:

!url – list

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MythLogBot:

faq(disabled) google linuxtv logs overscan tuners wiki

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Beirdo:

sorry, was not reading the screen

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Beirdo:

hmmm.

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Beirdo:

!url test http://www.test.com

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MythLogBot:

No match for keyword test

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Beirdo:

cood :)

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Beirdo:

good rather

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Beirdo:

oooh, I think the expansion is for filling in a %s

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Beirdo:

!url gi blah

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MythLogBot:

gi: http://www.google.com/?q=blah

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Beirdo:

yup

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Beirdo:

I may not have URL-encoded though

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Beirdo:

!url gi let's see

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MythLogBot:

gi: http://www.google.com/?q=let%27s%20see

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Beirdo:

oooh, I did

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J-e-f-f-A:

Beirdo: You *must* setup a Let Me Google That For You link... ;-) maybe even "lmgtfy" http://lmgtfy.com?q=searchtext

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Beirdo:

done

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Beirdo:

!lmgtfy mythtv

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Beirdo:

!url lmgtfy mythtv

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MythLogBot:

lmgtfy: http://lmgtfy.com?q=mythtv

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J-e-f-f-A:

hehehehe... ;-)

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Beirdo:

brain-fart

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sphery:

isn't your google one missing a /search ?

[20:06:21]

Beirdo:

oooh, Greg The Bunny.... add to netflix queue

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J-e-f-f-A:

sphery: it works... the /?q= must be short for 'query'... ;-)

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Beirdo:

I removed it anyways

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sphery:

what I'm saying is that http://www.google.com/?q=blah does not work for me (gives me a 404) and http://www.google.com/search?q=blah works

[20:08:01]

Beirdo:

you can enjoy the replacement

[20:08:11]

Beirdo:

yeah, I missed that, but no biggie

[20:08:18]

Beirdo:

!url – list

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MythLogBot:

faq(disabled) google linuxtv lmgtfy logs overscan tuners wiki

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sphery:

maybe it only works without /search if you're logged in or something

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Beirdo:

oh, that's likely

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Beirdo:

I'm logged in :)

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sphery:

I don't like to log in to the evil overlord's network

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Beirdo:

anywho... time to escape to go home...

[20:09:31]

sphery:

cool new feature, though :)

[20:09:33]

Beirdo:

that way I can play with my fitpc :)

[20:10:19]

Beirdo:

I have a box of coffee from keurig and a box of cables from monoprice waiting for me... and have to be there before 6pm to get them from the secured area in the building

[20:10:41]

Beirdo:

seeya on the flip side. I'm NOT missing this bus

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sphery:

good luck catching the bus and getting the deliveries

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coffee412:

Ok, How do you get flash to work in mythbrowser? I have it installed and working firefox but doesnt work in mythbrowser??

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ver:

coffee412, mythbrowser is to firefox what picasso is to etch-a-sketch

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ver:

er, the other way around

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coffee412:

So, I have .23 installed and wanted to try out the mythnetvision. No flash. But I have firefox running with flash.

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coffee412:

ver: So, The mythnetvision runs but doesnt do flash for the sites like you tube???

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RDV_Linux:

coffee412: I am not sure why your MythBrowser is have problems with flash but Firefox and Mythbrowser use the same Flash plugin. You may have to uninstall and reinstall Adobe flash.

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RDV_Linux:

coffee412: If you choose to reinstall make sure you get the latest version of flash from Adobe.

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coffee412:

RDV_Linux: Ok. I did the installs with FC11 / Yum / the repositories. I guess I can try reinstalling flash.

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coffee412:

ok

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coffee412:

Thanks for the help. Time to pop in a pizza and get ready to play with flash.....

[20:28:35]

coffee412:

take care...

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** sphery wonders how many users have 32-bit firefox + plugins and 64-bit MythTV (due to the "wonders" of multilib distros that claim to be 64-bit) **

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** wagnerrp cant comprehend how someone would end up with 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit system **

[20:33:04]

Captain_Murdoch:

easy, they install 64-bit oracle

[20:33:25]

Captain_Murdoch:

the installer is 32-bit. ran into that issue again this week.

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wagnerrp:

i mean you have to make significant effort to compile 32-bit software on a 64-bit system

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wagnerrp:

theres that whole cross-compiler environment you have to set up

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sphery:

but aren't some distros shipping 32-bit firefox, still, for "better plugin support"

[20:34:21]

sphery:

and if not, if the users have older distros, many will have that

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** wagnerrp wonders how text can be shipped 32-bit **

[20:34:53]

wagnerrp:

ascii is only 8-bit

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sphery:

firefox isn't ascii???

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sphery:

oh, you mean the oracle installer

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wagnerrp:

well they might have unicode for some of the international stuff

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sphery:

oracle doesn't do command-line install--they have all graphical ugliness

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** wagnerrp thinks sphery doesnt get the 'source only' gentoo user reference **

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sphery:

(at least that was the case last time I ran an Oracl installer on *nix)

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sphery:

oh... gentoo

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sphery:

didn't realize coffee was gentoo

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wagnerrp:

im speaking from my point of view

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sphery:

ah, I se

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sphery:

see

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sphery:

I'm just slow tonight

[20:39:22]

Mandingo-Builder:

i asked a question yesterday as into why i cant configure .23 with dvb-s2 support on my box, and some of you said that i might be missing some headers ?

[20:39:33]

sphery:

I have my brain dialed down while I'm watching Transformers (broadcast version)... Helps with the verisimilitude.

[20:40:13]

sphery:

Mandingo-Builder: more likely you either have old headers or you have them in a weird place

[20:40:37]

Mandingo-Builder:

not really sure what headers i might need but i do have sapi

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Mandingo-Builder:

hmm ok

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sphery:

Mandingo-Builder: grep FE_CAN_2G_MODULATION /usr/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h

[20:41:06]

Mandingo-Builder:

s2api

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Mandingo-Builder:

nothing

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sphery:

oh, yeah, you might actually be missing them...

[20:41:47]

sphery:

so is that file there?

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Mandingo-Builder:

no

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sphery:

if not, please install kernel headers package

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sphery:

kernel dev package... whatever it's called

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Mandingo-Builder:

ok cool thanks

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sphery:

I always forget that a typical system doesn't install all the headers, so you were right before about it being that you were missing the header. :)

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sparkyjack:

hi, i'm having an issue with 0.23 mythweb on slackware, I run though the install doc and I'm fairly certain that I've followed all the steps

[21:06:26]

sparkyjack:

when I browse to the webserver I get the following message

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sparkyjack:

Warning at /var/www/htdocs/modules/_shared/tmpl/_errors/db_vars_error.php, line 23:

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sparkyjack:

require(modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory

[21:07:18]

sparkyjack:

I've got the backend running, and a frontend running and I've done a few recordings.

[21:07:46]

sparkyjack:

Through all the upgrades I've done I always have an issue with the webserver setup

[21:08:29]

Mandingo-Builder:

sphery: i have the headers installed based on what synaptic says and still no go

[21:08:39]

Mandingo-Builder:

i still cant grep that file

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sphery:

sparkyjack: that message is simply saying that MythWeb was unable to show you the error message it tried to show you. This almost always happens when your database information is not configured in the MythWeb configuration file or when you haven't set appropriate MySQL grants/permissions for the user/host

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sphery:

sparkyjack: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8158 has a little bit more info

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sphery:

Mandingo-Builder: see if you have a frontend.h anywhere on your system. If not, it's some other package (perhaps DVB headers or ...)

[21:11:40]

Mandingo-Builder:

k

[21:13:21]

Mandingo-Builder:

sphery: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27–7/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h

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sphery:

Mandingo-Builder: those are the kernel headers for the running kernel, you need the ones that were used to build your libc

[21:13:59]

Mandingo-Builder:

sorry this one /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27–17/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h

[21:14:11]

Mandingo-Builder:

hmm ok

[21:14:14]

sphery:

I don't know how your distro packages things, so I can't help find it

[21:14:35]

sphery:

but you should find some package that has a linux/dvb/frontend.h and is not in /usr/src

[21:18:30]

Mandingo-Builder:

sphery: i over looked it i do have /usr/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h

[21:18:46]

sparkyjack:

from the box that's running mythweb I can do the following

[21:18:53]

sparkyjack:

mysql -u mythtv -h localhost -p -D mythconverg

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Mandingo-Builder:

but no reference to FE_CAN_2G_MODULATION

[21:19:24]

sphery:

Mandingo-Builder: what distro/version?

[21:19:28]

sphery:

is this an older install?

[21:19:40]

Mandingo-Builder:

yes

[21:19:43]

Mandingo-Builder:

810

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Mandingo-Builder:

and i know

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Mandingo-Builder:

but its needed for something

[21:20:01]

sphery:

I'm thinking you just need to upgrade to get DVB-S2 support

[21:20:20]

sphery:

if you have a DVB-S2 package, you must need to also install the dev version of it to get the headers

[21:20:47]

sparkyjack:

enter the passowrd and do a show tables;

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Mandingo-Builder:

i installed the s2api headers and source

[21:21:03]

sphery:

without FE_CAN_2G_MODULATION, you're lacking DVB-S2 support

[21:21:11]

Mandingo-Builder:

correct

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sphery:

sparkyjack: then check your mythweb config file

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sphery:

(the apache config file)

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Mandingo-Builder:

when i grep FE_CAN_2G_MODULATION /usr/include/dvb-s2api-liplianin/linux/dvb/frontend.h

[21:22:26]

Mandingo-Builder:

its good

[21:22:49]

sphery:

Mandingo-Builder: it might be possible to make it work, but you'll likely have to edit configure directly--and MythTV isn't guaranteed to work when you're hacking things that way

[21:23:10]

sphery:

i.e. you'll have to fix the MythTV build system to use the non-system headers

[21:23:17]

Mandingo-Builder:

hmm

[21:23:26]

sphery:

you're /much/ better off getting an appropriately-new distro installed :)

[21:23:33]

Mandingo-Builder:

doh

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sparkyjack:

what am I looking for in mythweb?

[21:24:01]

Mandingo-Builder:

is there a wiki or anything i can look at for that info sphery that you might know of

[21:24:33]

sphery:

Mandingo-Builder: I don't know of any instructions for doing what you're trying to do... Most people just upgrade to get new features. ;)

[21:25:13]

sphery:

sparkyjack: a file that starts out, "# Apache configuration directives for MythWeb."

[21:25:33]

sphery:

sparkyjack: in which there are comments telling you what you need to edit to configure MythWeb

[21:25:39]

sphery:

sparkyjack: see also the MythWeb README file

[21:36:39]

sparkyjack:

I'm pretty sure I adjusted settings as appropriate

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Mandingo-Builder:

sphery: thanks for pointing me in the right direction

[21:38:26]

Mandingo-Builder:

changing to

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Mandingo-Builder:

# mythtv paths

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Mandingo-Builder:

dvb_path_default="${sysroot}/usr/include/dvb-s2api-liplianin"

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Mandingo-Builder:

now shows that it is supported when i run ./configure

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Mandingo-Builder:

so ill test and see thanks again

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sphery:

sparkyjack: also, check the apache logs to see if there are errors

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sparkyjack:

I get

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sparkyjack:

PHP Fatal error: require() [<a href='function.require'>function.require</a>]: Failed opening required 'modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php') in /var/www/htdocs/mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/_errors/db_vars_error.php on line 23, referer: http://nmyth/mythweb/

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sphery:

that makes it look even more like the invalid DB access issue

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k-man:

i had this error the other day and imho its to do with php not being configured correctly

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k-man:

either php is not installed or its not being executed correctly by apache

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sphery:

that could be, too

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k-man:

either way, check you can run a very simple php test program from the mythweb folder

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k-man:

that's a good quick way to narrow down the search for the problem imho

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k-man:

sparkyjack: above 4 lines are addressed to you by the way :)

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sparkyjack:

I figured that

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k-man:

i encountered the error because i moved from .debs to self compiled and installed from svn. when i removed the .debs it removed the necessary apache config to make mythweb work and also removed php as it was non longer needed. so i had to reinstall php and follow the mythweb install instructions which were very good btw

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k-man:

sparkyjack: http://www.htmlite.com/php003.php

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sparkyjack:

copying the phplite test script to a file in my webserver, and entering the appropriate url in the broswer produced the details about the php install

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k-man:

sparkyjack: put it in the mytweb directory and test it from there

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k-man:

it's possible that the mythweb directory is not configured to execute php scripts

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sparkyjack:

did that to, works there also

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k-man:

ok

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sparkyjack:

and I see --with-mysql=shared int eh configure command

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k-man:

anything useful in the apache or php error logs?

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sparkyjack:

the only thing useful (and repeated) is the PHP fatal error: metioned above

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k-man:

sparkyjack: check that you have the correct version of php installed? also, which distro are you using?

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sparkyjack:

slackware 12.1, php 5.2.5

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k-man:

sparkyjack: i've pretty much exhausted my suggestions – can you paste the output of the php test script?

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k-man:

sparkyjack: you might have to ask on #php or #apache for advice on solving it

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sparkyjack:

how about browsing to http://69.140.245.85/mythweb/phptest.php

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sparkyjack:

I setup a forward on my firewall to the myth box

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wagnerrp:

and you didnt secure it?

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sparkyjack:

no I'm not worried about it

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wagnerrp:

meaning i could log on there, and start setting up porn recording rules?

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sparkyjack:

I'll watch the log and pull out the firewall entry when we are done

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k-man:

sparkyjack: i'm really clutching at straws here but could the "virtual directory support" be required?

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k-man:

wagnerrp: well, you could if his mythweb was working but its currently not ;)

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wagnerrp:

hmm... good point!

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k-man:

sparkyjack: did you follow the instructions in the INSTALL file in there?

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k-man:

paste your mythweb.conf file somewhere

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k-man:

and also paste output of ls -l /var/www

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[R]:

wagnerrp: do you think a 3ghz i3 can do 2 1080i mpeg2 ota decodes?

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sparkyjack:

http://69.140.245.85/ls-l.txt

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sparkyjack:

http://69.140.245.85/mythweb.conf.txt

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k-man:

sparkyjack: have you seen this thread? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/396988

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k-man:

can you also paste ls -l /srv/www/htdocs

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k-man:

i'm not familiar with that document layout – but i'm guessing this error stems from incorrect paths in the configs

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k-man:

and ls -l /var/www/htdocs

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sparkyjack:

I had not seen that thread

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k-man:

i didn't read the whole thing but was it useful?

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sparkyjack:

ls of /var/www/htdocs has been placed in the webserver root

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k-man:

are /srv/www and /var/www symlinks to the same place or anything?

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k-man:

because your mythweb.conf refers to /srv/www but it seems your mythweb files are in /var/www...

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sparkyjack:

I gues if I had half a brian I use only one of them

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sparkyjack:

okay I pulled out the alias and used only /var/www/htdocs in the mythweb config file

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sparkyjack:

I get the front page

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sparkyjack:

actually I thin I need the alias

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sparkyjack:

but when I try to go to something like recordings listings etc, I get an error that the file is not found

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sparkyjack:

I need to play with this now

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christmas11:

Is it a bad idea to set my user as 'root' when accessing the mySQL database?

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wagnerrp:

only if you dont trust yourself to not do bad things

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wagnerrp:

mysql users are completely independent of system users

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wagnerrp:

but similarly, the only reason you dont run as the system root user is if you dont trust yourself to not do bad things

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sparkyjack:

life is real good, thank you all very much

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christmas11:

anyone?

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wagnerrp:

i already responded to you

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christmas11:

sorry, I went offline for a second, can you please repeat what you said?

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wagnerrp:

http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1

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christmas11:

Ok excellent thank you

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k-man:

sparkyjack: there are two <Directory> sections in that file, the first one i think should be <Directory "/srv/www/htdocs/"> and the second one should be <Directory "/srv/www/htdocs/mythweb"> i think

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k-man:

sparkyjack: sorry, wrong paths there, i meant: /var/www/htdocs and /var/www/htdocs/mythweb

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sparkyjack:

okay I adjusted like that it seems to work fine

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sparkyjack:

wiht your help I've made a lot of progeress this evening

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k-man:

but still not working?

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htpc:

hey guys, i have a hvr-2250 and everything was working fine, but in the last week or two it won't tune to a particular channel, it works on all other channels except NBC any clue what's up?

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wagnerrp:

have you tried rescanning?

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htpc:

will try

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Beirdo:

yay, installing ubuntu on the fitpc

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wagnerrp:

beirdo: you have ubuntu installed elsewhere?

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Beirdo:

yeah, in virtualbox, and on several dead computers in Puerto Rico... and my linode :)

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Beirdo:

oh, and on an EC2 instance

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wagnerrp:

would you mind if i had you run some python commands at some point?

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wagnerrp:

trying to write an 'uninstall' option into the bindings installer

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Beirdo:

sure, I can try

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wagnerrp:

since there are occasional problems with people having old cruft around and it conflicting

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Beirdo:

BTW, this looks sweet on the TV

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Beirdo:

1600x1200 60Hz :)

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wagnerrp:

im trying to figure out how to find the current install path

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Beirdo:

cool

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Beirdo:

I'll do what I can... Not sure I'll be able to tonight, but we shall see :)

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htpc:

there are tvs out there that do 1600x1200 properly?

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Beirdo:

yes

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

my Samsung 32" is doing just fine with it

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wagnerrp:

i was actually going to ask you to test something right now, but i just realized it didnt actually give me the data i wanted

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Beirdo:

oooh

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htpc:

i'm running 1920x1080 on mine and no complaints on 16:9 aspect, but 1600x1200 requires a 4:3 aspect, am I wrong?

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wagnerrp:

i only ask for ubuntu, since that seems to be where most of the problems occur

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Beirdo:

OK, well, once you're ready, the virtual box is there

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wagnerrp:

something about debian-based systems wanting to install to some non-standard path

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Beirdo:

yeah, it does, but it's stretched, it seems

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wagnerrp:

no idea why they had to be different

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wagnerrp:

but they did

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Beirdo:

don't care, I'll be running in 1080i mode once its installed

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: yeah, it's the debian/ubuntu way

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Beirdo:

just gotta be tards about everything

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wagnerrp:

im thinking its a problem with people migrating from the packaged installs, to the source installs

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wagnerrp:

and the packaged installs install to a higher priority path or something

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Beirdo:

ahhh, could well be

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Beirdo:

I'm tempted to go make me a BLT

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

got shoulder bacon... nice tomato... and a spicy greens mix.

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Beirdo:

but no mayo. crap

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wagnerrp:

im half tempted to just walk through the import directories listed in sys.path, and blast away any 'MythTV' it finds

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dewman:

parkay

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Beirdo:

parkay is margarine...

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wagnerrp:

it also talks to you

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Beirdo:

heh

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wagnerrp:

im not going to eat anything that speaks

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Beirdo:

unless it says moo or oink

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dewman:

exactly...comes in handy when your cooking.

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Beirdo:

I don't need margarine for cooking bacon though :)

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dewman:

no kluck?

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wagnerrp:

cooking what?

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Beirdo:

oh, forgot cluck.

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

and maybe even quack

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wagnerrp:

the only thing you would cook on a BLT is the bacon, and your bacon should have enough grease on its own

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Beirdo:

salmon don't make noise that I know of

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dewman:

splish splash

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Beirdo:

yeah, it's low-ish fat bacon (shoulder instead of belly), but at worst, it would need a dab of butter

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Beirdo:

I don't do margarine :)

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Beirdo:

OK, that's it... gonna go make bacon.

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Beirdo:

I convinced myself

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htpc:

hmmm re-scanning for channels didn't help my problem

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htpc:

any other tips?

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wagnerrp:

check your backend logs for errors

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wagnerrp:

turn up verbosity and check again

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htpc:

nothing there

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htpc:

basically i never get a lock on channel

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htpc:

i get that first L and that's it

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htpc:

how do i turn up verbosity?

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wagnerrp:

'mythbackend --setverbose <verbosity keywords>'

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htpc:

i get something like mythevent: signal 3

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htpc:

and then bunch of crap that follows it

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htpc:

and it keeps doing that it looks like

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htpc:

this is sooo bizzare

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htpc:

ALL channels except 5_1 and 5_2 are working

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[R]:

is this over the air or cable?

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htpc:

it's cable

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wagnerrp:

bad channel scan is almost certainly the issue

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htpc:

it was working for a year

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wagnerrp:

your backend logs should list errors saying its failing to tune

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