| Saturday, June 19th, 2010, 00:00 AST |
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Beirdo: |
OK, I just saw that all the UPNP bugs are assigned to him, and wondering if he's active with it at all |
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Peacekeeper: |
I have not got firewire channel changing going yet |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: Ah, me too. ;-) I think I started with FC3 or 4 with Jarod's guide. ;-) |
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Peacekeeper: |
but that is because I am banging my head on desk about lirc |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: I use 6200ch – it's on the wiki now at http://mythtv.org/wiki/6200ch — and a sample of my channel change script is at the bottom. (Motoroloa QIP7100 on FiOS) |
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** Beirdo is playing ticket thief ** |
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Beirdo: |
not stealing the mythgallery ones YET |
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achew22: |
Is there any way to have picasa albums show up in mythgallery? Is there a plugin that provides that ability? |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
achew22: Looks like somebody asked that question 1–1/2 years ago... http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /235628.html |
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achew22: |
how hard would it be to write a C++ to python binding for myth plugins |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
achew22: ... and it looks like nothing came of it either. |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
achew22: i dunno. ;-) but I'll bet there's some useful info on the wiki. |
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achew22: |
are there existing plugins that are written in python? |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
achew22: I don't know... but this seems like a good place to find out: http://mythtv.org/wiki/Plug-in_development_guide |
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achew22: |
I would hit you if I were there in person J-e-f-f-A ;) |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
achew22: Hey, I could have just said "RTFM" or "Google is your friend" ;-) hehehehehe |
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achew22: |
I'm used to that at least |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
hehehehe... ;-) |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
I have *got* to get more involved in development... I made one patch about a year ago, then a change to 6200ch, but nothing else... Just need to find more time!!! ;-) |
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kormoc: |
quit your day job! ;) |
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Peacekeeper: |
J-e-f-f-A: Firewire channel change works |
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Peacekeeper: |
:D |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
kormoc: hehehe... ;-) |
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wagnerrp: |
Beirdo: i recall him saying hes got a lot of planned changes for mythxml |
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wagnerrp: |
but how much of that would be specifically related to upnp, i dont know |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: Awesome btw... ;-) (sorry, didn't mean to ignore ya!) |
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Beirdo: |
ok. :) |
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Peacekeeper: |
np :D |
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Peacekeeper: |
I am now hooking up hd-pvr then back to lirc :( |
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Beirdo: |
Well, I have enough on my plate anyways... upnp would be nice to be fixed though. |
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** J-e-f-f-A <3's his HD-PVRs... ;-) ** |
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Peacekeeper: |
well I will let you know how it goes :D |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: Just one Hd box? |
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Peacekeeper: |
yes |
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Peacekeeper: |
I have 3 OTA |
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Peacekeeper: |
and one Cable |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
2 HD here, 4 ota. ;-) |
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Peacekeeper: |
I got my hvr-2250 going |
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Peacekeeper: |
that is a nice card |
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wagnerrp: |
would be nicer with linux analog support |
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** wagnerrp would like to replace his aging -150s ** |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: I bought a 2nd HDHR to use for clear QAM, but there's nothing of value there... And only about 1/2 of the locals that I get via OTA... so they're both on OTA now. |
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Peacekeeper: |
Yea QAM sucks here too |
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Peacekeeper: |
i think i got 4 channels |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
I got about 60, but it was every local cable access channel in MA (99% junk), and only about 3 or 4 of the HD locals... |
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Peacekeeper: |
hdpvr inpit composite? |
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Peacekeeper: |
input |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: One tip that I forgot to do – Set the recording profile for the HD-PVR – the default bitrate for HD is all the way up (incredible pic), but for SD is horrible... |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: Not if you've got HD! "Component" |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
And if you've got an optical cable handy, SPDIF. |
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Peacekeeper: |
oops i ment that |
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Peacekeeper: |
ROFL |
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Peacekeeper: |
SPDIF yes :D |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
And make sure you click those optical cables in all the way... or your hd-pvr will behave very randomly if the audio signal cuts in & out... |
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Peacekeeper: |
nice tips thx |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Do you have a beefy cpu or a vdpau capable video card? |
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Peacekeeper: |
vdpau |
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Peacekeeper: |
how do I set bitrate? |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Ok, then you should be ok. ;-) |
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Peacekeeper: |
well 1 sec let me finish setup |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: Recording profiles in the TV setup – make sure you select MP4 hardware encoder type, then adjust the sliders... |
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Peacekeeper: |
ahh nice |
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Peacekeeper: |
Thank you :D |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
I set my box to lock at 1080i for HD and 480i for SD. |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
(Set-top box...) |
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kormoc: |
I like having my set top box output at native res |
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kormoc: |
(720p for 720 hd, 1080i for 1080, 480i for sd) |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
kormoc: Yeah, unfortunatly the QIP7100 doesn't seem to have an option for that... it's got an 'output resolution' setting, and a checkbox for 'sd override' to drop to 720x480i |
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Peacekeeper: |
did you scan for the QAM channels of just download from schedules direct? |
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Peacekeeper: |
ASTC I scanned for. |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Peacekeeper: "MPEG-4 AVC Hardware Encoder" is the "Codec" |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
I scanned for QAM... |
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Peacekeeper: |
I thought I might scan on my all air2pc card to see what I get now :D |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
For 'regular' stuff from the STB, I just cleaned up the SD listing to match what I sub to, and ent on. ;-) |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
I also went into mythweb and set SD channels that had HD equivalents to be 'invisible'... |
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Peacekeeper: |
Yea I have some clean up to do like that too |
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Peacekeeper: |
I just need all my tuners and lirc running first. then I will fine tune it all |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
btw... I set my bitrates like this: Low res – Avg 8000 Max 10000 Medium – Avg 11000 Max 14000 – High – 13500 Max 20200 |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Probably a bit overkill, but that way SD is about 3GB/hr, and looks as good as the original signal, and 1080i looks absolutely stunning, exactly like original as far as my naked eye is concerned... ;-) |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
And if you're carrying over any recording profiles that you've got existing rules setup for, make sure you alter them to match the source too... (I wondered why my 'low quality' SD recordings looked like *bleep* at first, and it was because I never setup the profile for the HD-PVR, and it was using the lowest quality setting for SD...) |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
... Humm. maybe those bitrates for 'low' are still too low, it's not as clear as I though, but then again, I was just watching a 1080i program... ;-) |
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Beirdo: |
YAY, Cliff Lee |
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Beirdo: |
1–0 shutout |
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Beirdo: |
too bad that wasn't tomorrow |
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Beirdo: |
complete game shutout ;) |
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Tanthrix: |
So, my Comcast DCT dvr box has died after 4 years of service. I've been using it with my HD-PVR and firewire to change channels |
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Tanthrix: |
I have a choice of replacing it with an HD tuner and presumably switching to an IR blaster to save $6–15 a month |
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Tanthrix: |
Or getting another full DVR box with firewire, and hope that channel changing is supported. |
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Tanthrix: |
I'd like to go with the cheaper tuner option, but I've never used an irblaster for recording before and am concerned about reliability – any opinions? |
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achew22: |
go to the comcast center and ask for a box with firewire |
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** Beirdo grumbles ** |
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Beirdo: |
wagnerrp: do you know if there's a "normal" way to be looking for perl module pre-reqs right now for install? |
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wagnerrp: |
you mean in configure? |
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Beirdo: |
yeah |
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wagnerrp: |
yes, recently added a couple weeks ago |
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Tanthrix: |
achew22: As I said, I can do that, but I'm suspecting that the dumb HD tuners do not have firewire – only the HD dvrs. |
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Beirdo: |
mythweather scripts are being HORRIBLE... |
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Tanthrix: |
achew22: Which I don't want to pay extra for if it's not going to get me anything |
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Beirdo: |
and since I am the defacto maintainer... |
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Beirdo: |
heh |
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achew22: |
Tanthrix: I got a "dumb" hd reciever with firewire from comcast |
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Beirdo: |
I need to fix this nonsense |
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Tanthrix: |
achew22: Oh really? What model? |
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achew22: |
DCH 3200 or 6000 something |
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kormoc: |
Tanthrix, they're required to provide you one upon request |
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achew22: |
there are a lot of motorolas that have them |
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achew22: |
I think it is even a law that the cable box has them |
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Tanthrix: |
Sweet, I'll do that and save the money. |
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wagnerrp: |
Beirdo: see perl checks for the bindings in mythtv/configure:3957 |
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Beirdo: |
perfect |
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Beirdo: |
thanks |
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kormoc: |
Tanthrix, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FireWire#FCC_regulations |
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wagnerrp: |
and similar checks for python stuff in mythplugins/configure:425 |
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Tanthrix: |
kormoc: Cool, thanks. |
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Beirdo: |
first I'm doing #8644 |
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Beirdo: |
err |
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Beirdo: |
#8466 |
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Beirdo: |
stupid brain |
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Beirdo: |
pheld: you like yer IPv6 tunnel? |
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pheld: |
Beirdo: works fine. Rock stable |
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Beirdo: |
:) |
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Beirdo: |
I'm using sixxs too, terminating in Phoenix, AZ |
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Beirdo: |
although not connected to IRC using it... yet |
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pheld: |
I used to care about which apps used it, but that was years ago. Now it causes very little problems a all to apps on *nix. |
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Beirdo: |
well, I just haven't gotten to it yet :) |
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Beirdo: |
heh |
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Beirdo: |
actually, the linode where I do my IRC from is on an he.net tunnel (it has static IP) |
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Beirdo: |
home has sixxs |
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Beirdo: |
there. I haz committed |
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Beirdo: |
hehe |
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Beirdo: |
now to look at the configure checks |
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Beirdo: |
and committe |
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Beirdo: |
d |
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Beirdo: |
wagnerrp: now if I'm missing any of the required perl modules... mythweather will be disabled by configure |
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Beirdo: |
need to think of a way to make it more granular, be able to disable each scraper family individually. |
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Beirdo: |
ugh |
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Beirdo: |
I forgot how messy #8356 was |
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Beirdo: |
makes me feel like I'm off to polish a turd |
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Beirdo: |
# This series applies on GIT commit 4c82b2d085b894d0104f6b35595f8349519dccdc |
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Beirdo: |
ARGH |
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Beirdo: |
way to go... heh |
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Beirdo: |
we're not using git. that doesn't help me determine what it's based on |
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Beirdo: |
OMG |
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Beirdo: |
this machine needs more memory so bad |
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Beirdo: |
heh |
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Beirdo: |
heheeheh |
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Beirdo: |
weatherScreen.cpp: In function âQString formatTime(const QString&)â: |
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Beirdo: |
weatherScreen.cpp:38: error: âclass MythContextâ has no member named âGetSettingâ |
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Beirdo: |
OK, that's a fail. |
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Beirdo: |
bah |
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Beirdo: |
I want myth fullscreen, but the lousy gnome taskbar/panel bar won't bugger off |
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Beirdo: |
and I'm sure this is in the wiki, but I don't see it |
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Beirdo: |
sigh |
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justinh: |
got compiz enabled? disabled it :) |
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Beirdo: |
ah, likely |
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justinh: |
only fix I know of for that |
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Beirdo: |
hmmm |
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Beirdo: |
I kill compiz... and the two terminals are on top of the frontend... and still have teh bars |
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Beirdo: |
have I ever mentioned how much I hate gnome :) |
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Beirdo: |
ahhhh, ratpoison |
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Beirdo: |
much better |
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Beirdo: |
eat me, compiz |
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justinh: |
on ubuntu it's generally as easy as setting desktop effects to disabled |
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Beirdo: |
heh |
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Beirdo: |
I'll do that next time I login :) |
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Beirdo: |
hehe |
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justinh: |
I don't like gnome much but I tried KDE a while back. Shudder |
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justinh: |
zillions of menus |
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Beirdo: |
just going through the different themes to see how many need the copyright notice for mythweather |
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Beirdo: |
so far all but arclight, and it has it too small |
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Beirdo: |
EVERY screen in mythweather needs the copyright notice |
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Beirdo: |
grrrr |
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justinh: |
lol is $20 the standard bounty rate these days or something? :-O |
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Beirdo: |
heh, not if you are trying to bribe me. |
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Beirdo: |
might work for some people |
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justinh: |
these folks need a slap. they wanna see how many people donated twice that just to say thanks for a crummy theme |
| [03:24:28] |
Beirdo: |
heh |
| [03:24:39] |
Beirdo: |
you theming again? :) |
| [03:24:48] |
justinh: |
saying stuff like "I'm really nerved". Oh come on devs stop being so slow already! |
| [03:25:26] |
justinh: |
I am actually. it's not gonna be another arclight though |
| [03:25:45] |
Beirdo: |
hey, I always liked your stuff before |
| [03:26:12] |
Beirdo: |
I wouldn't want you to copy arclight. There's room for variety |
| [03:26:25] |
justinh: |
we'd be using arclight if it wasn't for my wife not liking the small text |
| [03:26:53] |
Beirdo: |
when you get to the mythweather screens, you need to be sure to allow mucho space for the copyright notice... on every screen |
| [03:27:12] |
justinh: |
isn't the (C) optional? |
| [03:27:15] |
Beirdo: |
I'm gonna hunt down the other themers and make that well known |
| [03:27:19] |
justinh: |
or would it only show where needed? |
| [03:27:20] |
Beirdo: |
absolutely not |
| [03:27:42] |
Beirdo: |
it is needed on every screen due to TOS for some of the providers :( |
| [03:27:56] |
Beirdo: |
yr.no in particular |
| [03:28:03] |
justinh: |
no I mean where the t&c of a grabber doesn't need it shown |
| [03:28:12] |
Beirdo: |
which gives pretty good non-US coverage |
| [03:28:21] |
Beirdo: |
ahhh, yeah, it might be empty |
| [03:28:39] |
justinh: |
uh oh. been handed my 11 week old nephew |
| [03:28:41] |
Beirdo: |
I don't remember if I made it mandatory on the scrapers or not. |
| [03:28:53] |
Beirdo: |
I think I did, and if not, I will |
| [03:29:18] |
Beirdo: |
a courtesy notice would be appreciated if not required by nearly every provider out there |
| [03:29:45] |
Beirdo: |
yr.no definitely has the longest I've seen yet though |
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| [03:30:39] |
Beirdo: |
and they provide the text |
| [03:32:55] |
justinh: |
little wiggler. trying to stand up all the time already |
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| [03:33:09] |
Beirdo: |
hehe |
| [03:34:42] |
Beirdo: |
yr.no is made by the Norwegian Institute of Meteorology and the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation |
| [03:34:45] |
Beirdo: |
there it is |
| [03:35:00] |
Beirdo: |
had to go look in the cache file |
| [03:38:09] |
justinh: |
wonder how much better than the bbc's feed it is |
| [03:38:50] |
justinh: |
if I search for my postcode with it, then my parents' – who are 150 miles away.. and the weather report is the same |
| [03:39:52] |
Beirdo: |
yuck |
| [03:40:04] |
Beirdo: |
that MIGHT be accurate, but doubtful |
| [03:40:25] |
Beirdo: |
occasionally, they are bound to line up out of coincidence |
| [03:40:45] |
justinh: |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9?area=DH8 then try http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9?area=M40 |
| [03:42:18] |
justinh: |
I think the key is, both M40 & DH8 postcodes – although 150 miles apart – are in the 'North' of England. And it's all the same 'up there' right ;) |
| [03:42:27] |
Beirdo: |
yah |
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