Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, June 25th, 2010, 00:01 AST

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seventoes:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Snapstream_Firefly that one

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seventoes:

uhg.. not looking like i can use this blaster from a headphone jack T)T

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seventoes:

T_T

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seventoes:

kinda getting agrivated and considering ditching the idea of recording TV and switching to XBMC...

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seventoes:

was nice to record stuff while i lasted...

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seventoes:

it*

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wagnerrp:

i fail to see what XBMC would get you

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seventoes:

could still watch stuff i download, which i do with mythtv currently as well as recording tv

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wagnerrp:

none of the networks provide downloads, its only streaming

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clever:

my dad was streaming some shows off one site, and then turned my squid proxy off and discovered they dont stream to canada!

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clever:

the location check was trusting the proxyed-for: header too much, and couldnt track down 10.0.0.104, so it just allowed it

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Beirdo:

computers suck

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Beirdo:

it won't turn back on. I think the RAM died in the process

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clever:

my old laptop only turns on if i hit it

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Beirdo:

so flippin mad

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Beirdo:

mythtv go bye bye

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seventoes:

soooo buy more ram :D

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Beirdo:

I'm hoping it's the RAM

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Beirdo:

and I don't feel like tossing good money after an old box... DDR PC3200...

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Beirdo:

I'll see if I can beg/borrow some

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Beirdo:

It's days like this that I REALLY hate computers

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clever:

Beirdo: how much does it refuse to come on?

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clever:

doesnt boot, lights dont even come on?

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Beirdo:

it does NOTHING but spin the CPU fan

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Beirdo:

so either the RAM died, the CPU died, or something in the mobo died

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Beirdo:

I'm so tempted to just shoot it

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clever:

ah, thats atleast better then my laptop

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Beirdo:

better?!

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Beirdo:

it's DOA and it's BETTER?

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clever:

my laptop just blinks the power LED real fast for 4 seconds

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Beirdo:

the power supply works

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clever:

then gives up and goes back to 'dead'

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Beirdo:

that's all I can say

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Beirdo:

it better not have killed the PVR-250s

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clever:

yeah, it sounds like a problem in the mobo/ram/cpu

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Beirdo:

which are now pulled (of course)

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clever:

or a pci device is crippling it by pulling a bus down, or not

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Beirdo:

there is nothing plugged into it

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clever:

my P4 system seems to have a microcontroler hooked to a 2nd bios and the sound card

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clever:

it can say things like no CPU installed

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clever:

one day, it locked up and then proclaimed the cpu was missing!!

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Beirdo:

anyone have a baseball bat?

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Beirdo:

I think I'd like to go office space on this thing!

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wagnerrp:

im sure ive got one somewhere in the basement

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clever:

Beirdo: find an old keyboard and use that

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clever:

set the tower up on the desk like it was in-use

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Beirdo:

it's not a tower :)

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clever:

then video tape yourself grabing the keyboard and going to work on it:P

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Beirdo:

Antec Aria

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clever:

*googles*

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clever:

ah

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Beirdo:

it would make a satisfying hole in a car on the street though

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Beirdo:

but I think I'd better pass on that

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clever:

drop it from an overpass!

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Beirdo:

chuck it from my balcony... only second floor, but I could go to the roof

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wagnerrp:

kormoc: you in? looking for some sql advice

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Beirdo:

I can give you sql advice

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Beirdo:

but if you want GOOD advice... wait for kormoc :)

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wagnerrp:

im looking at the python bindings, and specifically the code to insert new entries

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wagnerrp:

right now, ive got a class that carries all the data in a dictionary

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wagnerrp:

if the class has not been mapped to a database entry, it allows a 'create()' method

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wagnerrp:

that pulls all of its data, sanitizes it, and pushes it onto the database

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wagnerrp:

now the code in the base class doesnt do anything to indicate it has now been mapped to an entry

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wagnerrp:

all that call does is return the id of the inserted row

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wagnerrp:

and relies on the subclass to actually do something with it

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wagnerrp:

now things like the recorded table, theyre indexed with 'chanid' and 'starttime', so there is nothing to do, that data already exists

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wagnerrp:

something like videometadata, its indexed off an autoincrement field, that i dont know of until i actually query the database for it

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Beirdo:

the id of the inserted row SHOULD be the autoincrement

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Beirdo:

normally

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wagnerrp:

now i could have the method query the database for the exact line that it just inserted

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wagnerrp:

but that seems rather cludgy

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Beirdo:

inserted row...

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: yeah, thats who the 'Video' class for videometadata entries is handled

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clever:

wagnerrp: there are functions to get the last insert id

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wagnerrp:

but i cant do that for items in recorded

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Beirdo:

not sure how Python accesses that, but that's the normal way I do it in C :)

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wagnerrp:

looking for a 'clean' way to do it for all cases

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wagnerrp:

not sure if there is one

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clever:

the subclass that makes it could grab that, and the parrent (if its recorded) would just ignore that number and use the chanid/starttime

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wagnerrp:

right, im saying i want to provide the functionality entirely in the parent class, without making the subclass do anything

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clever:

the class that creates the row could save that into a local variable

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wagnerrp:

it does, it stores it to cursor.lastrowid, and thats what im using for some of the subclasses

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wagnerrp:

but others, specifically those dealing with recordings, that doesnt work

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clever:

yeah, those others would have to just use starttime/chanid directly and ignore lastrowid

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Beirdo:

alter the table and create an autoincrement? ;)

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clever:

yeah, things like recorded probly could do with a better key, a one column id for the rows

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Beirdo:

I'll leave that to kormoc to advise on

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clever:

yeah, its a very major change

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Beirdo:

I hate you, computer

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clever:

Beirdo: do you have another compatible cpu/ram?

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Beirdo:

np

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Beirdo:

no rather

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wagnerrp:

in all these classes, i have it pull the entire data set off the database after inserting it

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clever:

cant eliminate them then

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wagnerrp:

so i have a true copy, after any default values the database may have set

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wagnerrp:

i /could/ just rework the INSERT into a SELECT using all the same data

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wagnerrp:

but like i said, that just seems 'dirty' to make a query with that number of where arguments

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Beirdo:

that should work, but I dunno if it's the most efficient

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wagnerrp:

i could have the subclass set various attributes that would adjust how the class acted

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wagnerrp:

but im trying to simply it for subclassing, adding additional requirements isnt what i had in mind

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wagnerrp:

i also have a big table of 'defaults' that i have to use to prep the object, to provide defaults to any 'NOT NULL' fields

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wagnerrp:

im wondering if i should do away with that entirely, and patch the schema to actually provide defaults

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wagnerrp:

there are a ton of fields in the schema that are 'NOT NULL' but with 'NULL' set as the default

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wagnerrp:

that seems un-kosher to me... but then im not a sql expert

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wagnerrp:

kormoc: ^^^

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jya:

in mythweb...

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jya:

In the advanced ettings

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jya:

I can mark a channel as being not visible

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jya:

once you validate, that channel is gone

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jya:

how do you revert ????

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wagnerrp:

mark it visible again

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jya:

sure... I would

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wagnerrp:

are you sure you checked the 'visible' box and not the 'delete' box?

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jya:

except that mythweb doesn't show it in the advanced list

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wagnerrp:

delete is on the left, visible is on the right

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jya:

100% sure

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jya:

I know where visible flag is ... :)

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jya:

that's what I was reporting..

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jya:

uncheck the visible flag, validate

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jya:

the channel is now unvisible, and you can't re-activate the visible flag anymore

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jya:

I was wondering if there was another way, or if I should lodge a bug

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wagnerrp:

huh... youre right

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wagnerrp:

didnt used to behave that way

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jya:

no, mythweb used to show all channels

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jya:

not just the invisible one

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wagnerrp:

right

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wagnerrp:

.... hence why i had to ask

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jya:

someone asked a question on -users

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jya:

and it didn't make sense... so I went, and now I understand why the guy was asking that question

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jya:

(it was in relation to the HD / SD duplicate, and removing the SD channel)

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xris:

jya: could be a bug in kormoc changing how channels are loaded now.

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jya:

going to lodge a ticket

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wagnerrp:

i assume its because hes using 'Channel::getChannelList' to enumerate the list

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wagnerrp:

and that call is filtering invisible channels

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Beirdo:

well I guess my theme song for the day is Limp Bizkit – Break Stuff

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wagnerrp:

yeah, thats the problem

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wagnerrp:

mythweb/modules/tv/classes/Channel.php

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Beirdo:

paperclip? You'd better not be that annoying "helper" in Office...

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npm:

could http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents . . . urations.pdf be used to tap into I2S stream of a "closed" device's D/A converter and capture SPDIF??

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Beirdo:

if you are, we'll have to kick yer butt

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npm:

?

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Beirdo:

? what?

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Beirdo:

I wasn't talking to you (which you could see if you look at the line JUST above yours) :)

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wagnerrp:

jya: are you going to submit a bug? if not, ill go ahead and put up a patch

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npm:

oh, i thought trying to bypass bad D/A converters and analog was going to get my butt kicked :-)

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jya:

oh if you have a fix that's even better

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jya:

wagnerrp: I'm still on packaging the nvidia new 256.x drivers.. They have completely changed their directory structure.. what a pain

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** Beirdo grumbles and groans **

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Beirdo:

stupid computers

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Beirdo:

:)

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pembo13:

i need help reducing/fixing an annoying amount of lag between video and audio in mythfrontend on a PulseAudio system

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wagnerrp:

upgrade to trunk

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pembo13:

wagnerrp: that's for me?

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wagnerrp:

or uninstall pulseaudio

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pembo13:

wagnerrp: ok

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pembo13:

i'll have to wait for new RPMs then

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jya:

pembo13: have you tried the ALSA:pulse device instead?

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pembo13:

jya: let me try

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jya:

you will have to restart mythfrontend

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jya:

as in 0.23, when you start mythfrontend , pulseaudio is suspended and won't be restarted

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pembo13:

jya: ALSA:plugin isn't available to me

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jya:

you'll have to type it in

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pembo13:

jya: ah

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pembo13:

jya: no audio output with ALSA:pulse (and a restart of mythfrontend)

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jya:

when you do aplay -L

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jya:

what do you see?

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jya:

is pulse in there?

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pembo13:

jya: no, it is not

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jya:

ah well

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jya:

upgrade pulseaudio then :)

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pembo13:

jya: is that some kind of plugin for ALSA perhaps?

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jya:

what version are you running

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pembo13:

jya: mythtv-frontend-0.23–2.fc13.x86_64

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jya:

you can try the ALSA emulation and see how it works for you..

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jya:

that's not the version of pulseaudio ...

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jya:

pulseaudio --version

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pembo13:

jya: pulseaudio-0.9.21–6.fc13.x86_64

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pembo13:

pulseaudio 0.9.21

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jya:

that's weird... when I run 0.9.21, it creates a device pulse

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jya:

Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server

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jya:

anyhow...

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jya:

try this then

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jya:

set mythfrontend to use ALSA:default

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jya:

quit mythfrontend

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jya:

do export DEBUG_PULSE_AUDIO_ALSA_EMULATION=1

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jya:

restart mythfrontend

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pembo13:

jya: that works, thanks

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pembo13:

i'll have to add that to my .bashrc i assume?

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jya:

now how is lip-sync?

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pembo13:

jya: not noticeably off

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pembo13:

ie. good

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jya:

how you add it .. not sure

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jya:

.bashrc is added when bash is started

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jya:

if mythfrontend is started automatically, it may not run .bashrc

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pembo13:

jya: no, i start it myself from an applicaiton menu (Kmenu)

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jya:

same thing

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jya:

you aren't starting bash

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jya:

I would create a script with

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jya:

export DEBUG_PULSE_AUDIO_ALSA_EMULATION=1 ; mythfrontend ...

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jya:

and call that script instead

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pembo13:

jya: cool, thanks

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jya:

wagnerrp: with your patch, you still need to have an option in the web page right ?

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el_duerino:

justinh: I'm not sure if you remeber the hint you gave me two days ago about the "lower graphics mode" when starting X; you said this problem was solved on your system using a special grub boot parameter. Well, at my system this doe not help unfortunately...

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el_duerino:

justinh: Any other ideas?

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Shadow__X:

anyone else notice comcast taking away a huge chunk of clear qam channels>?

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Beirdo:

not me. Comcast ain't my provider

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el_duerino:

justinh: hmm, looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/562565

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Weaselweb:

hi, how can I change the shortcuts for the internal player used for DVD playback? e.g. it matches to mplayer used in mythvideo

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clever:

Weaselweb: there is a key bindings UI in the setup area

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Weaselweb:

clever: i've seen that, but what is the part for the internal player?

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clever:

its probly under playback

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justinh:

Weaselweb: media settings – optical disks.. IIRC

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Weaselweb:

clever: ah, found it. a bit confusing, but at least I could change the pause key to match mplayer

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justinh:

el_duerino: did you actually update grub after changing /etc/default/grub ?

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clever:

Weaselweb: some things like mplayers [] key just cant be copied in mythtv ([] changes playback speed), myth does it by hitting a and then left/right, which also cant be copied in mplayer

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justinh:

forget what the command is now, but it worked first time for me. I may yet bump into the problem again since I don't plan to reboot that machine often. It's hidden away in a cupboard under the stairs :)

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Weaselweb:

clever: well, the most important keys are pause, jump forward/backward

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el_duerino:

justinh: yes, i did the grup-update

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Weaselweb:

but the 1min jumps from mplayer seem not be usedable on DVD playback

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el_duerino:

justinh: but it seems to be a driver problem (see the bugreport )

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azlon:

i have a RAID on my primary ubuntu machine. i just put together a little mythtv machine. how can i add the videos from my primary machine to my new machine? (first day using mythtv)

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clever:

Weaselweb: in mplayer, you can addjust how much the key seeks

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clever:

Weaselweb: in /etc/mplayer/input.conf (or $HOME/.mplayer/input.conf) LEFT seek -10 and DOWN seek -60

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Weaselweb:

clever: well. the mplayer setup is pretty fine already. i just want to adjust the controls of the internal player

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clever:

and somewhere in the mythtv setup, you can set the skip delay for left/right seek, and maybe page up/down seek

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clever:

it can help just to tune the side you can change, to match the others

[07:08:49]

clever:

i find the mplayer input config to be ALOT better, you bind keys (keyboard or lirc) directly to small commands (with optional arguments)

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clever:

myth is alot simpler where lirc buttons are blindly turned into keys (same key for every menu/screen), and then you bind the keys to basic actions

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azlon:

i am trying to install the mythtv plugins. i ran ./configure --help and saw the options. then i ran ./configure --enable-all and it gives me: qmake for Qt4 not found. Please specify the correct qmake with --qmake=

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azlon:

ugh... what the heck... i cant intall these plugins for some reason. is qmake an app i need install or something?

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justinh:

you have to install mythtv first, from source

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justinh:

and if you'd tried to do that you probably would've run into the same issue

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azlon:

justinh, so i have to install mythtv from source to be able to use the plugins?

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justinh:

to be able to use plugins from source yes

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azlon:

what if i install from mythbuntu?

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azlon:

i have to start over?

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azlon:

justinh, all i want to do is watch the avi files on my primary ubuntu RAID... thats all

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azlon:

justinh, do i need to install the mythvideo plugin for that?

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azlon:

ugh

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azlon:

i give up... back to windows 7

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justinh:

wow I didn't know windows 7 was for idiots

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gbee:

justinh: be nice :)

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bjd:

justin has so much hate :(

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el_duerino:

justinh: I did know that ;-)

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justinh:

bjd: I have so little patience for people who don't have any blimmin patience. I WANT MY ANSWER NOW! Ah wth I'm going back to the OS I don't know how to configure but just works (tm)

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justinh:

these people try for about 5 minutes, then come here, don't get an immediate answer & give up. It's frustrating

[09:27:15]

justinh:

what's really annoying about all this is.. if only they read the blimmin docs they'd know in an instant </rant>

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justinh:

in future rather than try to help when I nip in for 5 I'll just keep schtum :)

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azlon:

how can i view videos on my other machine (not mythtv) on my current mythtv machine?

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azlon:

i am reading about video groups but the videos are not showing up in the list

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azlon:

i scanned for changes and it says, "Failed to scan SG video host"

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wagnerrp:

jya: no, with that patch, the channel editor works as intended

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jya:

wagnerrp: ok.. cause I had a very quick glance at it, and I saw that you added the flag to provide the option in the API to retriwve either.. but not how to toggle the flag

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wagnerrp:

there is no toggle, i just set the default to filter for all uses of that method, and for when the channel editor uses it, to disable the filter

[10:09:35]

wagnerrp:

an internal control, nothing exposed externally to change with a setting

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wagnerrp:

so why did nvidia jump from 195 to 256

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jya:

wagnerrp: only them know... All I know is I must have spent 3 hours in redoing the package... *everything* changed.

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jya:

their installer is now a single directory, with all files in it..

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jya:

used to be stored as it would be stored on the destination machine... /usr/lib etc...

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jya:

wagnerrp: maybe it would be great in mythweb to be able to edit the list , either with hidden channels removed (default) or with all channels

[10:16:13]

wagnerrp:

thats beyond my capacity, havent touched PHP in almost two years

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justinh:

azlon: well, for storage groups to work any files stored away from the main backend must be mounted as 'local' – i.e. over nfs, samba etc

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justinh:

er not main backend... any mythtv backend

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justinh:

so either export the directory the videos are stored in via nfs – or some other way – and mount them on the backend like you would any other share

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azlon:

justinh, ok, i have samba installed... how can i mount the remote folders locally? just do sudo mount smb://192.168.1.10/archivestorage/Movies /media/Movies

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justinh:

not sure of the syntax there

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azlon:

hrmm... what do you mean by export? is there an app for this?

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justinh:

ubuntu has GUI options for sharing stuff over networks but I've never been able to get it working properly

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justinh:

I always end up using nfs

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azlon:

let me play with it for a sec... brb

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wagnerrp:

an app....?

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justinh:

nfs is better than samba anyway.. it has far less overhead. I'd recommend it over samba between linux machines any day

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azlon:

ok... nfs... is this already installed or do i need to get it?

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justinh:

you'll have to install it

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azlon:

ok, brb

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wagnerrp:

are you running your backend on your file server?

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azlon:

should i remove samba or do they play nice with each other?

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azlon:

no

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justinh:

azlon: should be fine without doing that

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wagnerrp:

... need to get the backend spec'd for tunerless operation...

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azlon:

wagnerrp, i just started playing with myth today. i have a 10TB RAID-5 on my primary ubuntu machine... i want to watch the movies on my primary machine on this new myth machine before i commit to anything

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wagnerrp:

eew... 10TB and youre only on RAID-5

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justinh:

hang on – you're just looking for mythtv to be a videos viewer?

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azlon:

wagnerrp, i have hot-spares...

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wagnerrp:

do you have no tuners at all?

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jya:

wagnerrp: I'm quite familiar with php , but I wouldn't want to touch anything related to mythweb and make some upset... maybe I'll submit a patch

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wagnerrp:

azlon: better to just have those hot spares be part of the raid

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azlon:

justinh, for now... but maybe more later if i like it enough... right now i am using Win7 MC

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justinh:

heh. enjoying all the repeat recordings much? ;)

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azlon:

wagnerrp, i have my tv tuner on my Win7 machine, but i never use it... i'm in kuwait so i just watch avi files

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wagnerrp:

if youre not going to use tuner cards, you probably dont want to bother with the complexity that is mythtv

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justinh:

I always say that. mythtv is way too much aggro if you're not gonna be watching recorded teevee

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is centered around recording TV

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wagnerrp:

the backend doesnt like not having tuners and guide data

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azlon:

well i might eventually... i just want to tinker with it for now... i really want to be able to stream my live tv to other machines, but i dont want to destroy my win7 machine until i know i will be happy with myth

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justinh:

and FWIW if you'd gone with XBMC you'd be up & running by now. such is the life of a user who doesn't need to record tv

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azlon:

hrmm

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azlon:

justinh, i have played with xbmc and wasnt impressed

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azlon:

so if i add a tv tuner to this, it will be easier?

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justinh:

put it this way – mythfrontend is the GUI for everything – and every mythfrontend needs a backend to talk to. backends really don't like not having tv tuners

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azlon:

hrmm... ok... i can throw a tv tuner in there...

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justinh:

and it has to be a tuner which is known to work in linux...

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wagnerrp:

for now, you can just set up a dummy tuner

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azlon:

wagnerrp, that's what i'm talking about... fake the funk until im ready to commit!

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azlon:

;)

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curtlee:

Could someone help me make a udev rule to stop my pcHDTV5500 from changing between /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp2 on every reboot?

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azlon:

how can i make a fake tuner?

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wagnerrp:

grab some mpeg2 file you have laying around, create an 'MPEG Encoder' card in mythtv-setup, point the device at that file, and set the external channel changer to '/bin/true'

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** justinh points towards #help-with-udev to curtlee **

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wagnerrp:

its something like that... ive never actually done it personally

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curtlee:

justinh: thank you

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wagnerrp:

curtlee: simple solution... stop trying to use framegrabbers with mythtv

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justinh:

er that's not a real channel – but I suggest you look in the mythtv wiki about udev rules

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curtlee:

wagnerrp: what do you mean?

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justinh:

curtlee: he means stop using the analogue tuner

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wagnerrp:

i mean most people in here dont even acknowledge that the PcHDTV cards even support analog

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justinh:

they're more hassle than they're worth

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azlon:

justinh, E: Couldn't find package nfs

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justinh:

azlon: take 5, seek out ubuntu docs on nfs

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Jay2k1:

nfsprogs perhaps

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Jay2k1:

or utils

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justinh:

or nfs-kernel-server

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justinh:

you need to read the docs to get this stuff going

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wagnerrp:

curtlee: the recommended analog tuner are IVTV cards, you can usually pick up an old PVR-150 off ebay for ~$20

[10:30:49]

justinh:

ubuntu misled me with its 'right click on a folder to share' business. it lied

[10:31:50]

curtlee:

I have a PVR-350, but it is too tall for my 2u case

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justinh:

you install the nfs server on the machine you want to share files from, edit a file called /etc/exports telling it which dirs to share and how to share em... then you restart the nfs service. and reading the docs is pretty essential to succeeding there

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curtlee:

I am very happy with the analog tuner in the pchdtv

[10:33:15]

curtlee:

i only use it a little

[10:33:31]

curtlee:

but it looks great

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wagnerrp:

aside from the fact that the analog capture keeps moving around

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marc-us:

wagnerrp, how often do you power down the backend?

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wagnerrp:

and youre sucking down large amounts of resources to encode it in real time

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wagnerrp:

right now? mine has been on for about a month

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wagnerrp:

i used to reboot every 2–3 days when i was tracking trunk

[10:35:04]

PeaceKeeper:

Anyone have the logitech mediaboard listed on the mythtv wiki? If so how did you get it reconnected after reboot? (I am running fedora)

[10:35:26]

curtlee:

the analog capture looks great, it doesn't move around

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marc-us:

Ah... I hardly ever shut down but still need to set up my udev rules as well.

[10:36:11]

curtlee:

my server it just for mythtv, so I don't mind the cpu usage

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justinh:

I tried a framegrabber tuner just for kicks a few years ago. it was better than poking myself in the eye with a scalpel, but not by much

[10:37:24]

marc-us:

ha ha

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marc-us:

curtlee, do you power down often?

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justinh:

marc-us: before you ask... nevah knowingly except for maintenance (cleaning fans etc)

[10:38:27]

marc-us:

Typically when I reconfigure the backend it's only once every couple of months or if there is a kernel update

[10:38:35]

curtlee:

I didn't really like the quality of the PVR-350's recording, plus I had to transcode the video anyway because it used up so much space

[10:38:48]

marc-us:

So, I've been lazy about using udev rules

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justinh:

and I do NOT install kernel updates on a machine which works fine. Ever

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marc-us:

Am I less of a mythtv user for having no rules? (udev)

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marc-us:

LAZY RULES!

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curtlee:

marc-us: I rarely poweroff, but everytime I do I have to change the setting in mythtv-setup

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justinh:

marc-us: nah

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justinh:

curtlee: another way to do it is with module blacklisting

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justinh:

that's the real lazy way to do it – but it only works if the hardware swapping around uses different modules ;)

[10:41:05]

justinh:

that way you get to guarantee which order the devices are enumerated.. cos you control the order the modules load :D

[10:42:33]

curtlee:

I have changed udev rules before to organize my network cards, it shouldn't be hard to set one for this. I just haven't done it before.

[10:43:59]

justinh:

there's a first time for everything. As the actress said to the bishop

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marc-us:

I've seen and been given a couple of guides. It did not seem daunting ... but yet I still have not wanted to take down the server for this...

[10:45:35]

justinh:

takes your choice. it's either that or put up with presto-change-o

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marc-us:

I am now known as myself

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curtlee:

justinh: Great idea. I think I will reboot it a few times and run lsmod to see if it is switching modules.

[10:53:58]

curtlee:

I have to wait until this world cup game is over

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rossand:

About to set up 2 boxes for mythtv. Need card advice. I'll be hooking them to an antenna with a few DTV channels transmitting HD. TVs are 1080p HD capable. Is the HD-5500 the best/a really good choice? What is the "best" card these days? Thanks.

[10:55:26]

curtlee:

I really like my HD-5500

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marc-us:

I really like the hd-homerun

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curtlee:

plus no broadcast flag

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wagnerrp:

there is no broadcast flag

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curtlee:

currently

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marc-us:

I cant speak to that.

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dert_:

Hi folks, need a quick bit of assistance, please blip me if you're available

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rossand:

curtlee: Thanks. They seem quite reasonably priced.

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wagnerrp:

its too late for them to add one

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wagnerrp:

the spec has been around for ~15 years now without one

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curtlee:

wagnerrp: I hope you are right

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rossand:

marc-us: looks interesting. Works well then?

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dert_:

I'm trying to compile the drivers for my brand new Hauppage 1600 card, but during the make process I'm getting a compile error – error: implicit declaration of function 'init_MUTEX'

[11:00:05]

wagnerrp:

dert_: why?

[11:00:32]

rossand:

marc-us: looks like hd-homerun can feed live to multiple machines. i.e. one homerun to two mythtv boxes. Do you have any experience with this?

[11:01:07]

wagnerrp:

rossand: no, you do one mythbackend to multiple mythfrontends

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wagnerrp:

the fact that an HDHomeRun can feed two different machines simultaneously is irrelevant to mythtv

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dert_:

Is that fixable? I'm using Ubuntu 10.04

[11:02:06]

wagnerrp:

dert_: ubuntu doesnt come with drivers for that card already?

[11:03:01]

dert_:

No, MythTV can't see the card to do anything with it

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rossand:

wagnerrp: gotcha, thanks for the clarification. If I want 2 tvs with the ability to watch whatever channel or archives independently, do I set up 2 back ends or can one back end (with 2 tuners) drive them both?

[11:03:53]

dert_:

While we're at it, why doesn't my mouse work in MythTV?

[11:04:29]

wagnerrp:

rossand: one backend can drive multiple frontends, to the limitations of the hardware

[11:04:41]

wagnerrp:

however one livetv instance consumes one tuner, there is no sharing

[11:04:51]

wagnerrp:

dert_: mythtv can use your mouse just fine

[11:04:59]

wagnerrp:

the default behavior is just to hide the cursor

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rossand:

wagnerrp: that's what I'm getting at. one back end with 2 tuners should do the trick to let me have two front ends watch live tv. More if I want to record simultaneously. Does this sound right?

[11:06:10]

wagnerrp:

correct, one backend can handle as many digital and mpeg tuners as you can physically connect to it

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azlon:

got it!

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azlon:

i now have my remote RAID mounted to a local folder!

[11:07:26]

marc-us:

rossand, While it "can" do this... I typically stream everything from the backend

[11:07:38]

azlon:

ok, now to play with myth again

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azlon:

brb

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marc-us:

But yes, you can access one tuner while the other is streaming to the mythbox

[11:08:30]

rossand:

wagnerrp: cool. got it. One more question. Should I expect 100bt ethernet to be sufficient to handle 2 to 3 live HD feeds? I'm not familiar with the amount of data HD consumes off the cuff.

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marc-us:

BTW: when a stream is opened... it think its sent to a specific ip address on a specified port

[11:08:55]

wagnerrp:

you should expect it to handle up to four

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marc-us:

I have not experimented with broadcast streaming with the hdhr

[11:09:06]

wagnerrp:

a single ATSC stream will be somewhere around 14–19mbps

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marc-us:

Yes, it works just fine for me

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marc-us:

I have it connected to a 100 hub

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wagnerrp:

marc-us: you can... but if mythbackend suddenly expects to record something on that tuner, youre hosed

[11:10:07]

marc-us:

As I expected, wagnerrp

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rossand:

wagnerrp: everyone thank you very much for the prompt and very useful help. It is very much appreciated!

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marc-us:

I've actually contemplated getting another hd-hr It's been the best thing I've ever got tech wise

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marc-us:

I even use it's IR receiver... It's painfully easy... I mean that I'm pained that I spent so much time trying to figure out ir solutions... HOURS and DAYS... to find that the hdhr does this in such an easy peasy fashion

[11:13:28]

marc-us:

I'm really excited about the cable card version of the hdhr but worried that linux support will never happen DRM wise

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wagnerrp:

mythtv already supports it

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azlon:

HAH! finally got it working!

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azlon:

sweetness

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azlon:

now to get my crappy POS remote working

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marc-us:

Not the cable card version..... Are you sure wagnerrp

[11:14:29]

wagnerrp:

positive

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marc-us:

?

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marc-us:

WOAH... I have not heard of this... I'll be able to insert a cable card into the new version and actually record encrypted cable channels?

[11:15:19]

wagnerrp:

one of the SD employees is a mythtv user, and whipped up a huge patch for it

[11:15:36]

wagnerrp:

however, you will only be able to access 'copy freely' content

[11:15:54]

wagnerrp:

which means it will get you the same exact content as using a cable box over firewire with mythtv

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marc-us:

OH, then that's no more than what I have now.

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wagnerrp:

note that the copy flags are completely independent of any QAM encryption they may be using

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marc-us:

The same channels that work with firewire also work with the Qam tuner of the hdhr

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wagnerrp:

you may get more or less using it than with a normal QAM tuner

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marc-us:

on my cruddy time warner service... curse them

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justinh:

ooo new nagravision cable card for my STB came in the post

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marc-us:

absolutely nothing comes over firewire... excepting for local broadcast channels

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marc-us:

bleah...

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wagnerrp:

absolutely nothing is required to come unencrypted over firewire

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wagnerrp:

FCC regs only state they need an active interface

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wagnerrp:

not that you have to be able to do anything with it

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marc-us:

And thus... the hdpvr fills the gap.... If I could trouble shoot my issue running more than one at a time

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dert_:

how to I change the mouse cursor to be visible?

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justinh:

you set the setting to make it visible. not using your mouse obviously :P

[11:21:41]

justinh:

or you can override it at run time with -O HideMouseCursor=0

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justinh:

IMHO mythtv-setup should always run with the mouse visible

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justinh:

just haven't got round to sending a patch yet

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justinh:

reminds me I was going to look into what the default setting is for that. pretty sure it used to be enabled

[11:25:00]

justinh:

showing the mouse I mean

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justinh:

hmm can't find the code which initialises it in the db

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Captain_Murdoch:

programs/mythfrontend/globalsettings.php

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Captain_Murdoch:

cpp

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justinh:

what I meant was, there's no setting initialised for it until globalsettings changes it by the look of it

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Captain_Murdoch:

globalsettings does initialize it. we load and save settings when the FE starts, so that initializes all settings to their values defined in globalsettings.cpp

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Captain_Murdoch:

ie, that's how we set defaults

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justinh:

ah yeah.. gc->setValue(true);

[11:32:55]

Captain_Murdoch:

needs to be redone sometimes as it is taking time to do that which slows the FE.

[11:33:19]

justinh:

so true is the default? not sure it always was

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Captain_Murdoch:

would be nice if we had a DB settings table which defined the valid settings and their default values. woudl allow easy reverting to the good recommended settings or even just reverting a singel setting or group if we had some form of grouping.

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justinh:

anyhoo – might get around to looking at making mythtv-setup ignore it & show the mouse pointer. doesn't bother me any to see it when I run that

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justinh:

Captain_Murdoch: heh yeah.. once you forget a default setting... oof

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Captain_Murdoch:

would be easy to just insert an built-in override as if the user had specified it on the command line.

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curtlee:

so it looks like pcHDTV 5500 is currently using the cx88-alsa module

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justinh:

curtlee: so you're thinking about trying the module blacklisting shortcut?

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curtlee:

sure

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justinh:

e.g. if you wanted the cx88-alsa device to appear second – consistently – so long as it's the only cx88-alsa device you can add cx88-alsa to /etc/modules.d/backlist.conf – then add cx88-alsa to /etc/modules

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curtlee:

but I don't think it is switching modules. I don't know what other module it would use

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justinh:

or you could do it the other way around & blacklist your soundcard modules

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justinh:

whichever works for you :)

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justinh:

but I have to point out that being the lazy way it might not work as expected – udev rules is a much better method

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curtlee:

I have also read the alsa MultipleCards pages

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justinh:

I'd have thought that if you've already done it for one set of cards it'd be a breeze for another

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curtlee:

well, I might just do what the alsa pages say because I plan to buy another pcHDTV 5500

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justinh:

oh lordy. well it's your funeral ;)

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curtlee:

hahahahha

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dert_:

I've looked through every setting, there is nothing to enable the mouse cursor that i can see

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justinh:

dert_: I *told* you

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dert_:

now I'm sad

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justinh:

dert_: well I told you how to disable it when you run mythfrontend or mythtv-setup

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dert_:

well I want to ENable it!

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sid3windr:

...

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dert_:

:(

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justinh:

I mean disable *hiding* it

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dert_:

oh...lol

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dert_:

Pretend i have little more than a brain stem functioning

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justinh:

the actual checkbox is in utils/setup > settings > appearance .. on the 1st or 2nd page there

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justinh:

HideMouseCursor = ZERO.. which means don't hide mouse cursor ;)

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justinh:

simples!

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curtlee:

is there a way to pass that as an argument?

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devinheitmueller:

dert_: could you pastebin the output of your v4l-dvb compile?

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dert_:

Hi, sorry, this is literally Day 1 with IRC so you guys have to treat me like a 4 year old

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devinheitmueller:

dert_: Cut/paste the output into http://pastebin.org/

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dert_:

How do I pastepin the output of my compile?

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devinheitmueller:

(including the error)

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dert_:

ah...good, thanks

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curtlee:

justinh: nevermind, I see you showed an arg for it earlier

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curtlee:

justinh: where can I find a list of the over rides?

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wagnerrp:

`select distinct value from mythconverg.settings`

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curtlee:

wow, 547 rows

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curtlee:

thanks, wagnerrp

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dert_:

http://pastebin.org/358528

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** devinheitmueller looks **

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dert_:

thanks for looking guys

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dert_:

I just upgraded my Ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04

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dert_:

I see there that the source headers might be missing?

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devinheitmueller:

Do you have the linux-headers package installed?

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curtlee:

if you are using the generic kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic

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devinheitmueller:

(for *your* current kernel)?

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** wagnerrp wonders if mediacipher can be seized under eminent domain... **

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curtlee:

if not the generic, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`

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dert_:

linux-headers-2.6.31-10-rt is already the newest version.

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dert_:

guess that answers that question, yes they appear to be installed

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devinheitmueller:

dert_: does that match your exact version that is running?

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devinheitmueller:

Are you actually running an RT kernel?

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dert_:

oh yes, that's it and I'm running the RT kernel on Ubuntu Studio actually

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curtlee:

uname -r would tell him

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curtlee:

brb

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dert_:

uname -r 2.6.31-10-rt

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devinheitmueller:

Interesting.

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devinheitmueller:

dert_: A quick google search suggests others have hit that issue before, but it's not clear how they resolved it.

[12:19:30]

dert_:

Yep, that's why I came here

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dert_:

last refuge of the damned

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dert_:

:)

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devinheitmueller:

Well, in fairness, #linuxtv probably would have been a better place to go.

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devinheitmueller:

;-)

[12:20:32]

devinheitmueller:

The last case I saw that reported on the linux-media mailing list was specifically with 2.6.31.9. Perhaps this is something specific to that Ubuntu kernel.

[12:20:44]

devinheitmueller:

Is that the latest kernel you can run (are there updates?)

[12:20:47]

dert_:

Truth, but I thought I'd start here since I got the instructions from the MythTV site

[12:21:10]

wagnerrp:

dont consider the mythtv wiki to be official for anything tuner-related

[12:21:19]

dert_:

I'm terrified to update the kernel again...newer ones seem to just invite more problems

[12:21:27]

devinheitmueller:

heh

[12:21:39]

dert_:

I'm more likely to go BACK to a kernel that actually worked for someone before

[12:21:48]

wagnerrp:

the only tuner we use directly is the HDHomeRun, everything else gets run through the V4L and DVB interfaces

[12:22:52]

devinheitmueller:

Hmmm... The stuff I'm reading suggests that this is indeed an issue with Ubuntu Studio 9.10.

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justinh:

ubuntu studio? ... googles

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devinheitmueller:

dert_: ok, here's what to do. Change that line from "init_MUTEX" to "semaphore_init" and it should start to work.

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justinh:

wonder if that ships with pulseaudio :P

[12:24:06]

devinheitmueller:

specifically it's an RT kernel issue.

[12:24:16]

devinheitmueller:

http://communities.vmware.com/message/1424892#1424892

[12:24:27]

devinheitmueller:

Yes, I know it's not for linuxtv, but it should still be applicable.

[12:27:29]

dert_:

where do I change that line? which file?

[12:27:44]

dert_:

I know where the directory is...just the file

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azlon:

how does mythtv want the videos to be structured? is it ok to use /movies/moviename/movie.avi and /tv shows/showname/season 1/showname.avi?

[12:28:16]

devinheitmueller:

dert_: http://communities.vmware.com/message/1424892#1424892

[12:28:22]

devinheitmueller:

doh, sorry

[12:28:31]

devinheitmueller:

dert_: /home/macdaddyo/v4l-dvb/v4l/dvb_frontend.c

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dert_:

running.....

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dert_:

oh wait...it's frontend o

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dert_:

hold on one sec

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stevieman:

Need a quick bit of advise, are ATI based cards harder to get to work then Nvidia cards? I've only ever used Nvidia cards.

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curtlee:

I found a very simple solution to my dsp1/dsp2 flip-flop problem

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dert_:

2 instances of MUTEX, first error cleared...cleared 2nd instance...runing again

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dert_:

looks GOOD

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dert_:

Devin, my next chlld will be named after you if this works

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curtlee:

in the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file, I simply changed options cx88_alsa index=2

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dert_:

(too bad I just had that procedure though...lol)

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curtlee:

damn paste

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curtlee:

I changed the index from -2 to 2 so now it is alway /dev/dsp2

[12:47:36]

curtlee:

the -2 just makes sure it isn't set to card0

[12:48:09]

devinheitmueller:

Another satisfied customer.

[12:48:15]

curtlee:

hahahha

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dert_:

well that worked

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dert_:

I'll be a monkey's uncle

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dert_:

eee eee

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justinh:

stevieman: fwiw I'd avoid ATI if you can if you need hardware accelerated video decoding

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curtlee:

I disagree

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justinh:

I said if you need hardware accelerated video decoding. VAAPI hasn't reached mythtv yet

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curtlee:

oh, okay

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curtlee:

I see what you mean

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stevieman:

justinh: I need hardware accelerated video so I guess I'll try trading this card for something by nvidia

[12:59:37]

justinh:

but without hw video decoding you should be fine so long as ATI's driver is up to snuff with the card you've got. YMMV

[13:01:24]

** justinh wonders what kind of hardware we'll need to play HDTV's replacement **

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iamlindoro:

The expensive kind

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curtlee:

I just have the cheap onboard Radeon X1200. Works well with the opensource driver

[13:02:24]

justinh:

heh I expect the expensive kind we can't even buy yet let alone pray for it to be supported in linux ;)

[13:02:26]

curtlee:

1080p seems fine

[13:02:35]

wagnerrp:

justinh: oh dont worry, you wont be able to play it

[13:02:39]

wagnerrp:

silly open source users...

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justinh:

curtlee: that's cos your CPU is doing the decoding

[13:02:54]

wagnerrp:

content is for moguls

[13:03:05]

justinh:

wagnerrp: oh yeah I forgot about that. open source software will be outlawed in 2014

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curtlee:

no, mythfrontend is only about 10%

[13:03:32]

iamlindoro:

Whatever you are playing, it's still all being done in CPU

[13:03:34]

justinh:

and the ISPs, owned by the same companies who own the movie studios will block OSS downloads

[13:03:50]

** justinh is relentlessly optimistic, as you can tell **

[13:03:50]

curtlee:

but I guess it would matter what video you are watching

[13:04:09]

justinh:

curtlee: absolutely

[13:04:25]

justinh:

I doubt you're running 1080p AVC at only 10% CPU

[13:04:35]

justinh:

maybe *displaying* the video at 1080P, sure

[13:04:48]

curtlee:

I transcode every video I get with a handbrake script I wrote

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wagnerrp:

justinh: its 1080p at 750kbps

[13:04:52]

justinh:

and then the graphics card *is* actually helping by doing the scaling for you AFAIK

[13:05:10]

justinh:

wagnerrp: eeeeeeew

[13:05:20]

justinh:

wow! looks like comcast :D

[13:05:34]

curtlee:

i'm not a good example since all my video files are the same

[13:05:46]

justinh:

or whoever the block-o-vision cableco is these days

[13:06:21]

justinh:

curtlee: low on HDD space so there's just a bunch of symlinks to the same file? aww

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curtlee:

hahahahhaha

[13:06:56]

curtlee:

hahahah

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justinh:

hey, way to save spave storing the box sets of Quantum Leap though

[13:07:06]

justinh:

*space

[13:07:28]

Maliuta:

I seem to be having a problem with mythcommflag failing and giving "QSqlQuery::exec: database not open" and "Driver not loaded" when it is run from the CLI (or a script). Anyone able to help?

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justinh:

Maliuta: running it as a user for whom there are no db credentials files in ~/.mythtv/ ?

[13:08:57]

curtlee:

/dev/mapper/vg-lv 2.3T 2.0T 122G 95% /media/storage

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curtlee:

I am a little low

[13:09:14]

Maliuta:

justinh: no, I am running it as the same user ('mythtv') that runs the frontend and can read all the files in the .mythtv dir

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justinh:

Maliuta: may help to show the whole output in a pastebin

[13:11:24]

Maliuta:

justinh: I know that mythcommflag is called by the backed with success, and the backend is run by the same user

[13:11:34]

Maliuta:

justinh: http://pastebin.ca/1889307 is the fail

[13:12:12]

wagnerrp:

perhaps your backend init script is forcing it to a different $HOME directory, and different database configs

[13:13:34]

Maliuta:

justinh: http://pastebin.ca/1889308 is the mysql config file

[13:15:50]

Maliuta:

wagnerrp: nope. it's running it out of the same dir I'm looking at

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avajon:

are dvb-s2 channels working in mythtv (0.23)? i can't find only dvb-s channels, but scan-s2 finds dvb-s2 channels. (Astra 19.2E)

[13:20:39]

Maliuta:

gah! it's even getting a successful DB connection, closing it, and then trying to use an invalid resource

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Maliuta:

for anyone interested I just ran a mythcommflag with '-v database'. output is at http://pastebin.ca/1889318

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azlon:

will mythtv automatically download all of the extra stuff like posters, banners, trailers and whatnot? or do i have to set something up for this?

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wagnerrp:

in trunk, yes

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wagnerrp:

in 0.23, you have to manually hit 'w' on each

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gbee:

avajon waited around for an answer then ...

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azlon:

hrmm

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wagnerrp:

or you can set up JAMU

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azlon:

jamu?

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wagnerrp:

jamu

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azlon:

ok, googling

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gbee:

I would have told him that yes MythTV supports DVB-S2, but only a fraction of the DVB-S2 channels on 19.2E are FTA

[13:38:56]

wagnerrp:

you expected more out of 'Java user'?

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sid3windr:

jamoooooooo

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wagnerrp:

austria... ive never actually see in that TLD before

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Beirdo:

que?

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: what was that in English?

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wagnerrp:

?

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Beirdo:

ive never actually see in that TLD before

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Beirdo:

?!

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wagnerrp:

'.at'

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Beirdo:

I know, I'm just being a grammar dork :)

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wagnerrp:

oh

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Beirdo:

I've even BEEN in that TLD before :)

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wagnerrp:

s/see in/seen/

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Beirdo:

in Vienna and Salzburg :)

[13:47:17]

Beirdo:

yeah, it's not too common to see on this side of the pond

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Beirdo:

BTW, my mythbox is deader than Elvis, it seems

[13:51:39]

Beirdo:

serves me right for trying to add RAM and a new video card

[13:51:50]

Beirdo:

now it won't even get to the BIOS.

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iamlindoro:

Adding them is fine, you just shouldn't have used a hammer

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Beirdo:

hehe

[13:52:18]

Beirdo:

I'm thinking of using a baseball bat on it now

[13:52:28]

Beirdo:

or a sledgehammer

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Beirdo:

that can be a lot of fun

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iamlindoro:

homeowners insurance, hopefully ;)

[13:52:50]

iamlindoro:

"there was a localized earthquake, it 'fell!'"

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Beirdo:

hehe

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iamlindoro:

And that computer case is where I stored my Picassos!

[13:53:13]

Beirdo:

I farted and caused a seismic event?

[13:53:41]

Beirdo:

ah well, I'll live...

[13:53:42]

wagnerrp:

elvis isnt dead, he just went home

[13:53:53]

Beirdo:

well, this computer went home too

[13:54:15]

Beirdo:

Elvis is probably surfing the web with it now

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azlon:

ok, i pressed W to update several video files... how can i watch the trailers?

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** Beirdo is actually in a Metallica mood today **

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azlon:

how can i list devices to see if my remote is detected? i thought it was cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

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Beirdo:

you mean lsusb?

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azlon:

ah yes!

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azlon:

Beirdo, hrmm... that didnt list the devices...

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Beirdo:

it will list all the devices on the USB busses

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Beirdo:

Bus 005 Device 025: ID 05ac:1292 Apple, Inc. iPhone 3G

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Beirdo:

heh

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azlon:

Beirdo, http://www.pastebin.org/358736

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Beirdo:

including the iPhone I'm charging

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azlon:

hrmm

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azlon:

interesting... so i guess my remote isnt found then...

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Beirdo:

then you have nothing hooked to the USB, it seems

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azlon:

well crap

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azlon:

time to dig... thanks!

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Beirdo:

good luck

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azlon:

is there an known issue with the miro plugin? it keeps giving me an error every time i open the mythbuntu coltrol center

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iamlindoro:

azlon: Sounds like you want #mythbuntu

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azlon:

is there a plugin to automatically rename and move a newly downloaded avi file?

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wagnerrp:

rename it from what?

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azlon:

rename it for being easier to read

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azlon:

like, when i download something it has periods and hdtv and xvid and all kinds of other crap i dont want

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jams:

believe it's called myth_do_it_yourself

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azlon:

lol

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azlon:

well i was hoping there was an app similar to metadata for windows

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wagnerrp:

you mean like... strip all the resolution and release group crap out of the name?

[14:45:14]

azlon:

yeah

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azlon:

nm, looks like JAMU does all of that

[14:45:37]

wagnerrp:

yeah, here at MythTV, we prefer not to aid in the online theft of video content

[14:46:02]

azlon:

yeah, well if i could do it the right way i would

[14:46:04]

skd5aner:

unless you cut wagnerrp a check, then he'll do it... ya know, for the money

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azlon:

unfortunately i'm deployed in the middle of the f'n desert

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skd5aner:

azlon: mv oldfilename.ext newfilename.ext ?

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azlon:

skd5aner, yeah, i can do it by hand, i was just looking for some automation

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azlon:

anyway, i'll fart with it more tomorrow...

[14:47:35]

skd5aner:

np, good luck

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azlon:

thanks for everybody's help today

[14:47:43]

skd5aner:

also, if you're serving... thank you!

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azlon:

np ;)

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dustybin:

my joggler running mythtv is _excellent_

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dustybin:

a handy little device indeed

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: per the SQL questions a while back, i think i found a good way to manage it

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wagnerrp:

if the class is using a single field for indexing, and that single field is listed in the database as an 'auto_increment', key off the returned value

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wagnerrp:

otherwise, assume the user has specified the necessary data in the object already to key off of

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justinh:

oh yay. new star warsey family guy coming to bbc3 soon

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: cool

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dustybin:

ive just realised i have no BBC4

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dustybin:

mythtv didnt grab it when i scanned

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** dustybin feels scared **

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Beirdo:

heh

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justinh:

like you watch anything on BBC4 anyway

[16:00:20]

dustybin:

justinh: BBC4 used to show excellent stuf

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dustybin:

f

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dustybin:

heyu show aliases

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dustybin:

alias bedroom_fan B1 StdAM

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dustybin:

heyu on B1

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dustybin:

:D

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justinh:

ruh?

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dustybin:

i switched my fan on without moving

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oneman:

If anyone is interested in alpha testing the network control of FiOS TV STB's please come to irc://irc.freenode.net/#fiostv

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jams:

well that sounds interesing

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dustybin:

i need to figure out how to get a mythtv frontend to activate a script on my backend to switch on/off X10

[16:04:09]

wagnerrp:

dustybin: use the event system

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: i cannot seem to figure it out

[16:04:26]

dustybin:

wagnerrp: i already have menu options

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wagnerrp:

you can define up to 10 custom events, and map those to keypresses in the frontend

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dustybin:

oh

[16:04:52]

dustybin:

wagnerrp: where are the scripts stored on the backend?

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Beirdo:

MythLazyPerson plugin?

[16:05:30]

wagnerrp:

dustybin: where ever you tell the backend they are

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: my joggler doesnt have a remote, just touch screen, can i do it with menu options

[16:05:51]

justinh:

bleugh

[16:05:54]

wagnerrp:

you can map them to gestures

[16:06:00]

justinh:

menu xml hacking? meh

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dustybin:

justinh: i already hacked the menu

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dustybin:

Now it is possible for the end user to tap into a number of events as well as defining up to ten keypress events.

[16:10:42]

dustybin:

i need to run mythtv-setup to get this working

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dustybin:

i might as well re-scan my channels

[16:11:58]

** dustybin turns off chilli v spain **

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justinh:

hey why not turn your event thing to something where it outputs every single thing you do into this channel?

[16:13:25]

justinh:

people do it for twitter, why not IRC too :O

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justinh:

look at the state of this http://twitter.com/#search?q=mythtv – no better if you search for the #mythtv hashtag

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Beirdo:

justinh: you really are crazy :)

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justinh:

and? :)

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dustybin:

i have re-scanned channels, and now have setup some events, time to test

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dustybin:

</twit>

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dustybin:

am i right in thinking that 1 on the remote will activate my script?

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dustybin:

nope it changed the channel

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dustybin:

if one scans channel icons, does one need to copy those icons to each and every frontend used?

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sphery:

nope

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EvilGuru:

dustybin: No

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dustybin:

where are my icons..

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dustybin:

strange

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EvilGuru:

dustybin: Took a day or so for my frontend

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dustybin:

why?

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sphery:

backend needs read permission

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sphery:

as well as frontend

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** dustybin feels confused **

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dustybin:

maybe a frontend reboot might resolve

[16:46:42]

dustybin:

didnt work

[16:47:49]

dustybin:

'Once downloaded you should put the resulting JPEG files into .mythtv/channels/ for the user running the front-end. '

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dustybin:

right so i do need to copy them over

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[R]:

dustybin: no

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dustybin:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Channel_icons

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[R]:

dustybin: mythtv-setup downloaded them to ~/.mythtv/channels... they exist there

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[R]:

?

[16:48:29]

dustybin:

i run mythtv-setup on my backend

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dustybin:

not the frontend

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[R]:

and...

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[R]:

[01:48:14] [R] dustybin: mythtv-setup downloaded them to ~/.mythtv/channels... they exist there

[16:48:41]

[R]:

?

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dustybin:

so that means the icons have been downloaded on my backend what my frontend doesnt have access to

[16:49:10]

[R]:

how hard is it to answer a question

[16:49:11]

[R]:

yes or no

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[R]:

seriously

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dustybin:

i have found them

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dustybin:

drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv users 4096 2010-06–25 21:27 channels

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[R]:

and the icons are there?

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dustybin:

yes they are

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[R]:

and what is the full path?

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dustybin:

/home/mythtv/.mythtv/channels

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[R]:

and is that path writeable on your frontend?

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dustybin:

for the mythtv user?

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[R]:

whatever user on your frontend

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dustybin:

i will create some test files

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dustybin:

yes

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[R]:

weird, the frontend should be downlaoding the icons from your backend automatically into that path

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dustybin:

nothing is there

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dustybin:

i will now check the joggler!

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** justinh burns his joggler **

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dustybin:

i just rebooted joggler

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dustybin:

no icons on that either

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dustybin:

could this be the work of a virus?

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[R]:

what is a joggler

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justinh:

dustybin: a virus on linux? are you kidding?

[16:57:45]

justinh:

unless you mean norovirus & it's affecting your linux-fu

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dustybin:

come on, im jokign

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justinh:

[R]: dirt cheap 7" touchscreen appliance thingy which can run linux. tethered to power forever – no battery & that's its only real downside

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dustybin:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505251/frontend2.jpg

[17:00:27]

justinh:

eew

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justinh:

I wouldn't drink from that cup if you paid me

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dustybin:

the mythtv interface looks excellent on it

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dustybin:

much better than my crt

[17:02:02]

sid3windr:

but it's not meant to be used with touchscreen is it

[17:02:08]

sid3windr:

the interface I mean

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justinh:

mythcenter never looks good on anything though

[17:02:13]

dustybin:

sid3windr: it works fine with easystroke

[17:02:19]

sid3windr:

wtf is easystroke

[17:02:23]

justinh:

a lotion :P

[17:02:24]

sid3windr:

does it give you a stroke easily? ;)

[17:02:28]

sid3windr:

justinh: =)

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dustybin:

justinh: mythcenter is my favourite theme, who created it?

[17:02:31]

sid3windr:

"or that"

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sid3windr:

I'm on blootube-wide.

[17:03:00]

sid3windr:

:P

[17:03:06]

sid3windr:

wonder what idiot created THAT

[17:03:12]

dustybin:

:O

[17:03:14]

sid3windr:

;)

[17:03:18]

justinh:

blootube-wide sucks & was created by a retard. apparently

[17:03:25]

sid3windr:

I thank the person who upped it into .22/.23 land

[17:03:27]

sid3windr:

:-)

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dustybin:

i would rather try and track down the guy who created archlight...

[17:03:37]

** KjetilK is looking forward to Power-over-Ethernet powered devices that can do 1080i **

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sid3windr:

think it's a really really nice theme :)

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sid3windr:

hehe

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sid3windr:

poe ftw

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KjetilK:

with Atom Z6xx, it seems to be happening RSN...

[17:04:06]

kormoc:

KjetilK, nothing like costing an extra $250 to get rid of a power cable

[17:04:09]

justinh:

IT Crowd time

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dustybin:

WOW

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KjetilK:

kormoc, hehe, well, gotta pay for the nice stuff :-)

[17:04:48]

dustybin:

Hauppauge Nova-T 500 0 The IT Crowd: The Final Countdown

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dustybin:

just in time

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KjetilK:

of course, a nuclear powered 1080i device with no cables at all would be even nicer ;-

[17:05:12]

KjetilK:

)

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dustybin:

all this flaffing around i could of manually copied the icons by now

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** dustybin tars **

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** justinh feathers **

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sid3windr:

KjetilK: atom does not really mean much if you want HD .. need a nice accelerated video chip :)

[17:08:03]

** sid3windr ruffles **

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KjetilK:

sid3windr, oh, really, I thought the Z6xx series took care of that?

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sid3windr:

Z6xx have internal gpu?

[17:08:54]

sid3windr:

I didn't follow, apparently ;/

[17:09:21]

sid3windr:

ah

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dustybin:

the plot thickens, i still dont have icons :-S

[17:09:23]

sid3windr:

they're moorestown

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sid3windr:

that's just... gma600 chipset

[17:09:31]

sid3windr:

aka "still ass"

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sid3windr:

excuse my french ;)

[17:09:56]

sid3windr:

that's the same videochip as gma500 but somewhat higher clockspeed

[17:10:10]

KjetilK:

hmmm, ok

[17:10:19]

sid3windr:

still no linux driver either

[17:10:20]

KjetilK:

so "don't trust them"?

[17:10:28]

sid3windr:

it's the same video card :[

[17:10:50]

KjetilK:

the importance of Android is likely to fix the driver issue, I think

[17:11:33]

sid3windr:

I don't think so

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KjetilK:

It is also interesting the stuff Freescale is doing on ARM

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KjetilK:

they claim to be running 720p on a very low-power CPU/GPU

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dustybin:

i need to get some basics right here

[17:14:24]

justinh:

wow that's lame. I hear STBs can do 1080P on like a 200Mhz CPU & some fancy decoder chip

[17:14:27]

dustybin:

should ever frontend be logged in as the mythtv user?

[17:14:36]

dustybin:

*y

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justinh:

my frontend is not logged in as the mythtv user

[17:15:24]

dustybin:

should the backend be logged in as the mythtv user?

[17:15:42]

justinh:

I dunno what do the slackware mythtv thingies say?

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dustybin:

slackware runs the backend as root user

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justinh:

! ouch

[17:16:09]

KjetilK:

justinh, yeah, but would that thing be suitable for building into a thin screen?

[17:16:43]

dustybin:

i bet i have turned off a tick in one of the thousand menu options what disables icons

[17:16:44]

justinh:

KjetilK: er who cares? :)

[17:16:52]

KjetilK:

I do :-)

[17:17:24]

KjetilK:

just imagine, a screen with Myth in every room, powered by PoE... :-)

[17:17:34]

justinh:

oh well wait a sec... they do TVs which have integrated 1080P h,264 decoding

[17:17:42]

justinh:

no PoE though

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KjetilK:

yeah, they tend to draw 90W

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justinh:

bit much to expect 200W over PoE

[17:18:00]

KjetilK:

right, or 200W :-)

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sid3windr:

:)

[17:18:18]

KjetilK:

12 watts is more like it

[17:18:19]

sid3windr:

esp as poe is 48V

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sid3windr:

:p

[17:18:31]

KjetilK:

then you can do legacy PoE

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dustybin:

ok, i just loaded the frontend on my backend box, the icons appear

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dustybin:

maybe i need to run mythtv-setup on each frontend

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sphery:

dustybin: the problem is almost definitely that you've put the icons in some user's home directory and the other user (running either the frontend or backend) can't access them there

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sphery:

so permissions

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dustybin:

aye ok

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dustybin:

at last icons work

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dustybin:

icons look sexy on the joggler :D

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** dustybin feels excited **

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EvilGuru:

Hmm, I've got no listings for Virgin1+1, but it is in my xmltv file and my myth database

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high-rez:

In trunk, I see a bug where after some time the program will get choppy and audio sync will go crazy. If I pause the video and then unpause it everything is cheerful again. Anyone know if this is a known issue ?

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clever:

high-rez: sounds more like the system is a tad underpowered and just needs a break to catch up

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clever:

i get similar stuff when my cpu usage is maxing out and things start to swap alot (2 seperate problems that get worse together)

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high-rez:

clever: Not so much – 0.23 doesn't exhibit this behavior. All of the video is offloaded to vdpau – frontend usage is like at a few percent.

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clever:

high-rez: is cpu freq scaling enabled?

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high-rez:

clever: Nope

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clever:

not sure then

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high-rez:

I'd load it up in gdb but I don't even know where to add a breakpoint :D

[17:47:16]

clever:

my best guess is that maybe trunk is needing more cpu/ram then 0.23 and thus, a more powerfull system

[17:47:26]

clever:

it sounds more like a job for oprofile

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high-rez:

I can't imagine the circumstnace under which trunk would run find for hours, then get all choppy/out of sync due to a CPU hickup, especially when CPU usage is relatively low due to VDPAU offload. I guess that could be the case, but it ewould still seem like a bug : -)

[17:49:37]

EvilGuru:

oprofile is a gem of a tool

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clever:

high-rez: the only other thing i can think of that might help is some way to view the buffer fill% for vdpau

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clever:

see if the frontend isnt feeding it mpeg data fast enough

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clever:

it might be some timers not firing often enough or something

[17:50:40]

justinh:

EvilGuru: looking at the right time period?

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justinh:

virgin1 +1 isn't 24h IIRC

[17:51:40]

justinh:

whoah I've not got any data for it either

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EvilGuru:

justinh: Just looked it up on Wikipedia, it died on Jun 1st

[17:53:16]

EvilGuru:

No more channel 35 by the looks of things

[17:53:49]

justinh:

ahhh freeview lineup changes. dontcha just love em

[17:54:13]

AndyCap:

justinh: how do the regular boxed handle them?

[17:54:30]

EvilGuru:

I remember some time ago when Virgin1 became Virgin1+1 (so far as mplex and service id went), was...interesting

[17:54:40]

justinh:

the lineup has changed. you must rescan.. do you want to rescan now? Y/Y

[17:54:52]

AndyCap:

justinh: ah, not too great. :)

[17:55:08]

dustybin:

EvilGuru: are you looking forward to HD freeview channels working on myth

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dustybin:

*tv cards i mean

[17:55:31]

justinh:

dustybin: people need to look fwd to dvb-t2 tuners first

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EvilGuru:

dustybin: I am first looking forward to: a dual Freeview HD tuner (T2) coming out

[17:55:44]

dustybin:

aye indeed

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justinh:

and even hauppauge, who saw mention of one coming 'this summer' on their own forums seem to have deleted the thread

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dustybin:

will hauppauge be the first guys?

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EvilGuru:

Hauppauge will probably come out with one as soon as there is a -T2 ASIC

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dustybin:

ok

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justinh:

even that was just a single tuner – which is fine – there's only ONE dvb-t2 mux anyway

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justinh:

and likely only ever will be one HD mux

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dustybin:

as soon as that time comes, and there is a working linux driver, it will be one step closer to me swapping my tv :D

[17:56:46]

EvilGuru:

But they often make very silly decisions with their boards: no PCI-e, often full size, with only one connector etc

[17:56:46]

justinh:

give it a year or so

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justinh:

EvilGuru: the one which was rumoured was USB

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justinh:

dvb-t2 stick. bleugh

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EvilGuru:

justinh: Maybe they will bundle it with a USB-PCIe bridge chip

[17:58:02]

justinh:

perhaps

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dustybin:

are you looking forward to England beating Germany on Sunday?

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justinh:

lol

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EvilGuru:

I still need to get my Nova-S2 set up; was going to get an HVR4000 but they make -T and -S mutually exclusive

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justinh:

more like looking fwd to everybody shutting the heck up about the world cup of soccer

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AndyCap:

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

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EvilGuru:

dustybin: It is better for the economy if we lose

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justinh:

once england lose in the most humiliating way possible

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EvilGuru:

Plus it will hopefully stop the moron next door with one of those trumpets from annoying me

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justinh:

notice I said england there not 'we'

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dustybin:

haha

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justinh:

I decided to call myself British after all. no longer English

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justinh:

I have no alliance with the proles who put england flags on their cars. And on their faces.. and on their houses

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EvilGuru:

I'm for a flag-on-car reverse-tax rebate

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dustybin:

i have a red cross on the back of my laptop

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dustybin:

lid

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justinh:

more flags, more tax you pay? sounds good

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justinh:

EvilGuru: daily mail would have a field day

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EvilGuru:

justinh: No, no, reverse tax rebate; totally different thing (if you are illiterate, which most flag-on-car people are)

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EvilGuru:

the mail is one above conservapedia in my books

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justinh:

EvilGuru: ahh their the one's who don't know which there their they're your you're supposed to use ;)

[18:02:42]

dustybin:

god there are some boring guest on jonathan ross

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justinh:

dustybin: and jonothan ross. like you need a reason to not record it

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EvilGuru:

I have £18 millions not to record it

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EvilGuru:

*million

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justinh:

still, won't be awound for vewy much longer eh

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dustybin:

im not a great fan of him, but i like some of the guests what come on

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justinh:

contract expires in July :D

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dustybin:

haha good

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justinh:

last dr who tomorrow too. last ever I hope

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dustybin:

shall i use frontend1, joggler or mythweb to program some new tv

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dustybin:

decisions decisions

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EvilGuru:

dustybin: mythweb is easier, IMO

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dustybin:

i usually use that

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dustybin:

wow kylie

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justinh:

meh

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justinh:

you wouldn't wanna date her anyway. look what happened to Michael Hutchence

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dustybin:

eeek true

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dustybin:

hmm she is rather dull

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justinh:

oo PSBs @Glasto

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EvilGuru:

Bah, myweb can't seem to grab my channel icons from the backend

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dustybin:

EvilGuru: check perms + symlink

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EvilGuru:

perms and good

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EvilGuru:

symlink!?!

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justinh:

nah

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EvilGuru:

I'll toy around with it, as my frontends all get the icons okay

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dustybin:

i have setup 2 keypress evens in myth system events

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dustybin:

how can i activate those events?

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dustybin:

'as well as defining up to ten keypress events.' what does that mean? i was not given a option to assign those keys

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iamlindoro:

You assign them the same place you assign every key in myth

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dustybin:

right i see!

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dustybin:

Edit Keys!!

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Beirdo:

beer!

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Beirdo:

let's get excited about something interesting :)

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dustybin:

god knows where the mythtv system events keys are

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EvilGuru:

Beirdo: peasant juice; now fortified wine, that's something you can set your watch to

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dustybin:

FOUND THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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dustybin:

it works!!!!!

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dustybin:

i can switch my light on and off from remote :D

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bjd:

WELL DONE!!!1111oneoneeleven

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dustybin:

this saves me setting up ssh keys to send commands

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bjd:

but thats like a 30 sec task?

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dustybin:

i wonder if there is a way to activate the keypress from the command line

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dustybin:

bjd: ssh keys are insecure in the wrong hands

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bjd:

heh

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dustybin:

maybe i should setup ssh keys so everything can get backed up properly

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bjd:

:)

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dustybin:

with rsync

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bjd:

but it's insecure in the wrong hands

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dustybin:

having X10 menu options looks much more cool then me pressing a remote key

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dustybin:

bjd: if its kept within my LAN, i will be ok

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bjd:

man, you type so much shit :)

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dustybin:

i think a good LAN should use ssh keys to allow easy rsync backups

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Beirdo:

bjd: language :)

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justinh:

like I said, myth needs a plugin to come in here & tell everybody what you're doing :D

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bjd:

Beirdo: please ... :p

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Beirdo:

justinh: nah, we don't want MythTwitter

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dustybin:

</twit>

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** justinh has paused VideoXYZ **

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** justinh has advanced VideoXYZ one frame **

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** dustybin corrupts justinh mythconverg and deletes recordings **

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Beirdo:

bjd: read the channel rules... swearing is not permitted, although sometimes it does feel good

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bjd:

Yeah, i'm familar with them altho it's a bit of a farce :p

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Beirdo:

no it isn't

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dustybin:

this is a family channel, im 11

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bjd:

then you should be in bed at 00:05

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Beirdo:

it's barely 4pm here and I'm starting to crash... need more coffee

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iamlindoro:

dustybin, He's been warned about the profanity, but that doesn't mean one of us won't kick or ban you for baiting people and/or just making this channel a chore to be in

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bjd:

I'm on a number of different networks. An operator on one, so swearing is the least of my worries but yes, I forgot swearing isn't tolerated here.

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bjd:

Personally swearing is A-OK by me so long as it isn't abusive

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iamlindoro:

Oh well, that's the price of hanging out in a channel you don't operate, I guess :)

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bjd:

s/channel/network :p

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iamlindoro:

makes no difference

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iamlindoro:

We'll abide by your rules on your channel/network/private island, you'll abide by ours here

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bjd:

I generally do.

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iamlindoro:

then we'll only kick/ban you when you generally don't :)

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bjd:

Apologies for the slight profanity, but I guess you can understand the frustration with the channels resident troll.

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iamlindoro:

I can indeed

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iamlindoro:

which is why I personally warned him and not you :)

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iamlindoro:

FWIW my patience with him will one day wear thin

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kormoc:

everyone should /ignore ALL dustybin

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bjd:

or save everyone the effort and ban ;)

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bjd:

Seriously.

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bjd:

I don't get this /ignore business if he manages to annoy more than 20% of the channel

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kormoc:

bjd, people come out of the wood work arguing that we're being unfair/etc

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bjd:

mmm

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skd5aner:

boop boop doodily doop

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Beirdo:

someone put a doomsday device in ya?

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oobe:

I have a thing where on occasion a video will randomly play in mythvideo after i exit playback of another video

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oobe:

it seems completely random

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Hilikus:

i've been having occasional problems where i open the guide while watching live tv and the guide never appears, the small window with the live feed still works normally but where the text of the guide would be there's nothing

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Hilikus:

has this been reported?

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J-e-f-f-A:

ugh... my udev rules for FC8 don't work in FC13... /me is googling... :-(

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